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In a message dated 2/26/2004 10:28:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wklj@... writes:

> We

> would obviously keep him off of the yard for probably several months

> while this stuff disappates.

I know I've read that some herbicides don't degrade for years. I wouldn't do

it. What about burning them out? You can get little propane torches to kill

nasty weeds...I don't know how big an area you're talking about.

Nell

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We have a little over 1/2 acre.

Thanks

> In a message dated 2/26/2004 10:28:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> wklj@a... writes:

>

> > We

> > would obviously keep him off of the yard for probably several

months

> > while this stuff disappates.

>

> I know I've read that some herbicides don't degrade for years. I

wouldn't do

> it. What about burning them out? You can get little propane torches

to kill

> nasty weeds...I don't know how big an area you're talking about.

>

> Nell

>

>

>

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>>> We have a little over 1/2 acre.

What part of Texas? It is a big state. What type of grass or 'lawn'

are you trying to get established? Wouldn't want to wipe that out at

the same time. My husband in a leading weed scientist and I will ask

about the sandbur and products you mentioned.

In general, herbicides are not a big problem for humans or animals

because they work on some part of the photosynthesis process. People

and animals don't photosynthesize. Insecticides often work on some

part of the insect's nervous system - and since humans and animals

have nervous systems too, often with similar pathways, this is the

big category to be careful around. Also, the carriers used in the

product may be a problem rather than the active ingredient.

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Also, is your son intolerant of any particular chemical? or class of

chemicals? My husband is a specialist in and researched low-

rates...meaning to use the absolutely least amount and the safest

product to get the job done. It includes using any 'all-natural'

measures as well (like puttin out stale beer to get rid off slugs, or

any management practices you can use so you don't have to use any

chemical at all).

Could you estimate about how many sandburs are, on average, in a

square yard? Just a ballpark figure. These are what an extensionist

would ask or look for.

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We live in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. Our son has trouble with

Chlorine(to give you an example). He has made tremendous progress

with all of the detox stuff we've done, but probably still has

chemical sensitivities. Paint,carpet,etc...

We'll be sprigging St Augustine grass to try to expand some existing

St Augustine.

The sandbur infestation rate is heavy. I'd say 70% of our back yard

is sandburs.

Thanks -I'd appreciate additional input as you have time.

Walt

> Also, is your son intolerant of any particular chemical? or class

of

> chemicals? My husband is a specialist in and researched low-

> rates...meaning to use the absolutely least amount and the safest

> product to get the job done. It includes using any 'all-natural'

> measures as well (like puttin out stale beer to get rid off slugs,

or

> any management practices you can use so you don't have to use any

> chemical at all).

>

> Could you estimate about how many sandburs are, on average, in a

> square yard? Just a ballpark figure. These are what an extensionist

> would ask or look for.

>

> .

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