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Hi there (sorry you didn't sign your name)

A sad welcome to the group. I am really sorry for your losses, but

I'm glad you found us.

I lost my identical twin daughters on 21 July this year with a

preventative vaginal in place. My girls had Twin to Twin Transfusion

Syndrome (TTTS) as well though so the exact cause for our loss is not

certain. Please feel free to visit our childrens webpages, the addy

is in my signature at the bottom.

The one thing that is certain is that we won't risk another vaginal

cerclage. I live in Australia and ab cerclages are very rare but I'm

hoping this will help us to have a live healthy baby.

You will find the ladies here really supportive and helpful.

Take care

Elaine

Matt 18 mths – emergency vag/cerl 24 wks, 11 weeks bed rest then

delivered 35 wks PROM and cord prolapse.

Paige and Amy – preventative vag/cerl 14 wks, delivered alive 20 wks,

passed away short time later wrapped in my arms.

Babies were suffering from chronic Twin-to-Twin Transfusion Syndrome

(TTTS). Unsure whether I/C, TTTS or infection caused contractions,

which resulted in cervix dilating and stitch to fail.

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/matty2002/

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/p/paigeandamy/

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong.

I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost

the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

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My doctors say the only fix for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem. If anyone has advice that would be great.

Welcome to the list!

I'm so sorry to hear about your losses. Many of us on this list have been through similar experiences. I'm sure you'll find lots of information and support here.

Chele

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Welcome,

I am so sorry for your losses. My cervix is also very weak and dilates and

shortens early in the pregnancy. I made it to 35.5 weeks with the ab

cerclage placed at 11 weeks. There is hope!!!! It is worth it! I was also

on bedrest most of the pregnancy.

Love, P.

" Brayden Austin " 06/02/03

}}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00

}}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

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>To: Abbyloopers

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>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:05:34 -0000

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Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong. I've

lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost the

second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

If anyone has advice that would be great.

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Welcome,

I am so sorry for your losses. My cervix is also very weak and dilates and

shortens early in the pregnancy. I made it to 35.5 weeks with the ab

cerclage placed at 11 weeks. There is hope!!!! It is worth it! I was also

on bedrest most of the pregnancy.

Love, P.

" Brayden Austin " 06/02/03

}}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00

}}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers

>To: Abbyloopers

>Subject: New to group, needing advice

>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:05:34 -0000

>

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Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong. I've

lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost the

second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

If anyone has advice that would be great.

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Welcome to the group.

Sorry for your losses, it is a terrible journey to discover IC.

I had one normal pg, then a cervical conization which caused cervical issues.

My second pg with triplets and I had a cervical cerclage done as a precaution

because of my past history and the multiple gestation. The cerclage failed at

17 weeks and we had a complete loss. Although my cervix is normal in length

and doesn't appear during examination to have any scarring or deformities,

based on the quick deteriation of the cervix during my 2nd pregnancy, it was

determined that an ab-cerclage would be necessary.

My third pg came as a complete surprise, we had stopped our fertility

treatments and were given only a .01% chance of natural conception. I had my

ab-cerclage placed in at 9 weeks and delivered a healthy, full-term baby at 37

weeks; she weighed 8lb 9oz and is now 14months old.

When this group was formed, it was a great support to me because there was

nothing out there and I am so thankful for it. I hope that you find as much

comfort as I have

Lori L

Graduate

Quoting ladyfire1998 ladyfire1998@...>:

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong. I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

>

>

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>

>

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Welcome to the group.

Sorry for your losses, it is a terrible journey to discover IC.

I had one normal pg, then a cervical conization which caused cervical issues.

My second pg with triplets and I had a cervical cerclage done as a precaution

because of my past history and the multiple gestation. The cerclage failed at

17 weeks and we had a complete loss. Although my cervix is normal in length

and doesn't appear during examination to have any scarring or deformities,

based on the quick deteriation of the cervix during my 2nd pregnancy, it was

determined that an ab-cerclage would be necessary.

My third pg came as a complete surprise, we had stopped our fertility

treatments and were given only a .01% chance of natural conception. I had my

ab-cerclage placed in at 9 weeks and delivered a healthy, full-term baby at 37

weeks; she weighed 8lb 9oz and is now 14months old.

When this group was formed, it was a great support to me because there was

nothing out there and I am so thankful for it. I hope that you find as much

comfort as I have

Lori L

Graduate

Quoting ladyfire1998 ladyfire1998@...>:

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong. I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I am sorry you had to go

through all of this. It is very hard to loss a child let alone 3. I was scared

and nervous about getting

the ad cerclage. I waited 6 months to try again after our loss. The

hd and I wanted

to make sure that we were ready

emotional and physical. I

of course wanted to start w/I 3 months. I am glad that we waited. I researched

out everything

before making a decision.

I spoke with several docs getting the advice. Once I had the doc picked out, I asked

my self is this what

I want. I do not believe

that we will never get over the loss of our child(ren).

I grieved and then made a decision. I have no problem getting pg.

It took one week and we

were there. Before I knew it all these feelings started to come up regarding my

last pg. I had the ad cerclage

placed

at 12 weeks and that was a surprising surgery. It was nothing what I thought it

would be. It was harder. This is just b/c the way

my organs and blood

vessels were placed. This is different for everyone. I am now starting my 18th

week. I am on moderate to strict

bed rest. I was on SBD

for 4 weeks then MBR. I am aloud to sit up and go out once a week. However, my hd and I want to be

careful so I only sit up

for dinner and I go out to dinner once every two weeks.

This is your decision. I did

it b/c this my last chance and if anything goes wrong I can say, “Hay, I did

everything I could”. With no

Regrets. I hope that you

are able to make a decision. Please feel free to ask any question. This is a

risk free zone.

God bless,

Taryn

New to

group, needing advice

Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place

where i belong. I've

lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant

cervix. After i lost the

second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out

about my problem. I

then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd

pregnancy. I was

put on bedrest, but my cervix kept

shortening. Then when it was

down to .3cm they admitted me to the

hospital. I lost him at 18

weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago.

My doctors say the only fix

for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has

been so supportive

through all of this, but I'm scared to

death!!! I don't know what

to do. At least i know getting pregnant has

never been a problem.

If anyone has advice that would be great.

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Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!

Terms of Service.

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Sorry for your losses. For me the abdominal has been worth it to

me. I lost Isabella at 18 wks, last dec. I got pg in may & had a

vaginal @ 12 wks. About a wk latter I felt this pain on the right

side of my tail bone. Well dr thought stich was coming out so I was

sent to another dr & had ab @ 15 wks. All is well so far & I will be

23wks on thursday.

God bless,

Shatana

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong.

I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost

the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

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Sorry for your losses. For me the abdominal has been worth it to

me. I lost Isabella at 18 wks, last dec. I got pg in may & had a

vaginal @ 12 wks. About a wk latter I felt this pain on the right

side of my tail bone. Well dr thought stich was coming out so I was

sent to another dr & had ab @ 15 wks. All is well so far & I will be

23wks on thursday.

God bless,

Shatana

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong.

I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost

the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

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Sorry for your losses. For me the abdominal has been worth it to

me. I lost Isabella at 18 wks, last dec. I got pg in may & had a

vaginal @ 12 wks. About a wk latter I felt this pain on the right

side of my tail bone. Well dr thought stich was coming out so I was

sent to another dr & had ab @ 15 wks. All is well so far & I will be

23wks on thursday.

God bless,

Shatana

> Hi everyone. I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong.

I've

> lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost

the

> second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

> then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

> put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

> down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

> weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

> for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

> through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

> to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

> If anyone has advice that would be great.

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HI ?????

Welcome to the group. I'm sooooo sorry to hear of your losses. Unfortunately

most of the ladies here are all to well aware of the pain of a loss. On a

weekly basis I send out an updated list of our members and on there you will

find all our success stories. These are the stats:

Current average delivery in 28 successful abdominal pg is 35.74w:

(11 full term deliveries - > 37w)

(10 near term - > 35 - 36w)

(7 - > 32 - 34w)

(1 failed abdominal cerclage - delivery at 26w3d)

(1 delivery prior to 30w (29w) due to pre-term labor - 2nd ab

cerclage baby)

As you can see they are great stats. I once read in a study that if you took

100 ladies all with failed vaginal cerclages and gave them all an abdominal

there was a 90% sucess rate. If you had to give them all vaginals again there

would be a 20% success rate.

HTH

Look forward to chatting to you again

Shona

ladyfire1998 wrote:

Hi everyone.

I'm glad i finally found a place where i belong. I've

lost 3 pregnancies, 2 due to an incompetant cervix. After i lost the

second one at 16 weeks, my doctor figured out about my problem. I

then had a vaginal cerclage put in during my 3rd pregnancy. I was

put on bedrest, but my cervix kept shortening. Then when it was

down to .3cm they admitted me to the hospital. I lost him at 18

weeks 6 days. That was 3 months ago. My doctors say the only fix

for me is an abdominal cerclage. My husband has been so supportive

through all of this, but I'm scared to death!!! I don't know what

to do. At least i know getting pregnant has never been a problem.

If anyone has advice that would be great.

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