Guest guest Posted January 2, 2000 Report Share Posted January 2, 2000 Hello Donna, so sorry to hear about your holiday mishap. You know, for any of us, falls can spell danger. I have phones just about everywhere in case I need help. Trust you will mend in time and rest well. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2000 Report Share Posted February 26, 2000 In a message dated 2/26/00 7:13:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, cruzin54@... writes: << Hey Ya'll: Been a while since I've responded !!! Gretchin : I mostly fall forward, but not just to my knees. I have fallen and fractured my wrists from my knees locking and I just fall straight forward with no giving of the knees !!! I have also lost my balance and fell backwards but usually try to sit when I'm going over backwards !!! I am begining to have alot of wrist and hand problems due to my CMT !!! They are weak and it's hard to hold on to small objects, such as ink pens, silverware, ETC:!!! Can anyone relate to these problems??? LATER>>>KIM>>>CRUZIN54 CRUZIN the 54 >> Kim boy can I relate to your problems with your hands I not only have CMT but also have chronic tendonitist in both hands and arms from working at a shoe factory for 10 yrs I get so aggravated I drop every I touch and can't even hold a pen long enough fo write a check ( my husband likes this part) o:-) I have found some big handle silver ware helps quiet a lot but they are real hard to find. bye for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. Kat in Seattle (where are you?) " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in ourselves. " -Carl Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. Kat in Seattle (where are you?) " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in ourselves. " -Carl Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. Kat in Seattle (where are you?) " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in ourselves. " -Carl Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > In a message dated 2/25/00 9:55:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, liliwigg@... > writes: > > << Hello everyone. I am just wondering...when you fall, do you usually fall > frontwards or backwards? I was thinking about times I have fallen, and > usually they are backwards, so I was just wondering about everyone else. > > Gretchen > >> > I fall backward with my legs behind me. I cracked my tail bone once by doing > this. > OHH the pain. I hate falling backward. At least front falling you can try to > catch yourself with your arms. > I usually fall frontwards and catch myself with my hands. I am always spraining my wrists and hands!..I am surprised after all of these years of injuring them that they still work as well as they do! I can go for months without falling and then fall two or three times within a week or a day. There is one thing I have to say though....everyone tells me they have never seen anyone fall so gracefully! Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > In a message dated 2/25/00 9:55:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, liliwigg@... > writes: > > << Hello everyone. I am just wondering...when you fall, do you usually fall > frontwards or backwards? I was thinking about times I have fallen, and > usually they are backwards, so I was just wondering about everyone else. > > Gretchen > >> > I fall backward with my legs behind me. I cracked my tail bone once by doing > this. > OHH the pain. I hate falling backward. At least front falling you can try to > catch yourself with your arms. > I usually fall frontwards and catch myself with my hands. I am always spraining my wrists and hands!..I am surprised after all of these years of injuring them that they still work as well as they do! I can go for months without falling and then fall two or three times within a week or a day. There is one thing I have to say though....everyone tells me they have never seen anyone fall so gracefully! Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > In a message dated 2/25/00 9:55:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, liliwigg@... > writes: > > << Hello everyone. I am just wondering...when you fall, do you usually fall > frontwards or backwards? I was thinking about times I have fallen, and > usually they are backwards, so I was just wondering about everyone else. > > Gretchen > >> > I fall backward with my legs behind me. I cracked my tail bone once by doing > this. > OHH the pain. I hate falling backward. At least front falling you can try to > catch yourself with your arms. > I usually fall frontwards and catch myself with my hands. I am always spraining my wrists and hands!..I am surprised after all of these years of injuring them that they still work as well as they do! I can go for months without falling and then fall two or three times within a week or a day. There is one thing I have to say though....everyone tells me they have never seen anyone fall so gracefully! Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 Cindy Hi! I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. My shins and calfs are always marked up. My 9-yr old daughter Katey is following right in my footsteps! She gets bruises and can't remember what she did to receive them. She has a large beauty right now - it runs from below her knee all the way up her thigh. We think she may have gotten it at school during recess but we're not sure! Ruth >>Hi Kat, > >I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a >small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just >thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too >have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so >thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when >people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a >fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I >have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I >can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 Cindy Hi! I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. My shins and calfs are always marked up. My 9-yr old daughter Katey is following right in my footsteps! She gets bruises and can't remember what she did to receive them. She has a large beauty right now - it runs from below her knee all the way up her thigh. We think she may have gotten it at school during recess but we're not sure! Ruth >>Hi Kat, > >I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a >small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just >thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too >have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so >thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when >people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a >fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I >have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I >can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 Cindy Hi! I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. My shins and calfs are always marked up. My 9-yr old daughter Katey is following right in my footsteps! She gets bruises and can't remember what she did to receive them. She has a large beauty right now - it runs from below her knee all the way up her thigh. We think she may have gotten it at school during recess but we're not sure! Ruth >>Hi Kat, > >I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a >small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just >thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too >have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so >thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when >people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a >fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I >have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I >can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > > > > << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice > skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> > > Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. > I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really > hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed > that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day > helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something > to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she > decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. > > Kat in Seattle (where are you?) > > " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine > it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in > ourselves. " -Car l Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Hi Kat, I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! My dad who died at the age of 89 also took a lot of falls and bruised very easily. Although he was never diagnoised with CMT we think that he may have had it in a minute form. He was an extremely active and fast little man who could run and walk like you wouldn't believe. At 89 he could still get around better than most people. The only reason we even thought that he could possibly have CMT was because he did have weak ankles and as a child sprained them a lot. Plus he was very hard of hearing just like me and my daughter which seems to go along with CMT. In the last week I have learned more about my CMT and the many different things that are related to this disease than I have since I was diagnoised thirty years ago. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > > > > << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice > skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> > > Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. > I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really > hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed > that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day > helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something > to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she > decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. > > Kat in Seattle (where are you?) > > " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine > it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in > ourselves. " -Car l Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Hi Kat, I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! My dad who died at the age of 89 also took a lot of falls and bruised very easily. Although he was never diagnoised with CMT we think that he may have had it in a minute form. He was an extremely active and fast little man who could run and walk like you wouldn't believe. At 89 he could still get around better than most people. The only reason we even thought that he could possibly have CMT was because he did have weak ankles and as a child sprained them a lot. Plus he was very hard of hearing just like me and my daughter which seems to go along with CMT. In the last week I have learned more about my CMT and the many different things that are related to this disease than I have since I was diagnoised thirty years ago. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 > > > > << Sometimes when I slip with one foot on something wet I look like an ice > skater gliding in on one foot for her final bow. But oh my poor knee! >> > > Hi Cindy, nice to hear from you. > I don't fall (yet), but when she was in her late 70s my mom took some really > hard falls, such as down a flight of concrete stairs. Everyone was amazed > that she didn't ever break any bones. A lifetime of drinking milk every day > helped I think, as well as sturdy heredity. Her bruises were really something > to see though, huge areas of blue/black. She fell in any direction. When she > decided to use a cane, then a walker, most of her falls stopped. > > Kat in Seattle (where are you?) > > " If there is anything we wish to change in the child, we should first examine > it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in > ourselves. " -Car l Gustav Jung, Swiss psychiatrist (1875-1961) Hi Kat, I live in Memphis. I have been falling frequently since I was a small child. I am 52 now. When I was a child my parents just thought I was clumsy! I wasn't diagnoised until I was 21. I too have taken some pretty bad falls in my life and often. I am so thankful to God that I haven't broken anything yet. I know that when people see all the ugly bruises on me they think I have been in a fight! I bruise easy anyway and so does my daughter who has CMT. I have often wondered if bruising so easily is because of the CMT? I can just barely touch my skin and I will get a big bruise! My dad who died at the age of 89 also took a lot of falls and bruised very easily. Although he was never diagnoised with CMT we think that he may have had it in a minute form. He was an extremely active and fast little man who could run and walk like you wouldn't believe. At 89 he could still get around better than most people. The only reason we even thought that he could possibly have CMT was because he did have weak ankles and as a child sprained them a lot. Plus he was very hard of hearing just like me and my daughter which seems to go along with CMT. In the last week I have learned more about my CMT and the many different things that are related to this disease than I have since I was diagnoised thirty years ago. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. Kat Strange, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. Kat Strange, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 << I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. Kat Strange, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 You're right Kat, it's strange... Would love to see those calves! My family falls into the toothpick variety!!!!!!! I love your insights. Ruth >From: KathleenLS@... >Reply-To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >Subject: Re: falling >Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:27:02 EST > >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many >CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 You're right Kat, it's strange... Would love to see those calves! My family falls into the toothpick variety!!!!!!! I love your insights. Ruth >From: KathleenLS@... >Reply-To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >Subject: Re: falling >Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:27:02 EST > >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many >CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 You're right Kat, it's strange... Would love to see those calves! My family falls into the toothpick variety!!!!!!! I love your insights. Ruth >From: KathleenLS@... >Reply-To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >Subject: Re: falling >Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:27:02 EST > >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many >CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Re: falling >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > I have type 2 and have always bruised easy, calves? I seem to remember having those! (stick legs,>Becky M.) >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Re: falling >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > I have type 2 and have always bruised easy, calves? I seem to remember having those! (stick legs,>Becky M.) >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Re: falling >From: KathleenLS@... > > > > ><< I have CMT Type 2 and have always bruised easily. >> > >Just to show how contrary CMT can be, I have CMT Type 2 and I rarely have a >bruise. It takes a pretty hard hit to affect me. My mom only bruised badly >when she was elderly, and that was from serious falls. > >You folks probably fit typical CMT 2 far better than I do. I have 16 inch >calves, too, (with muscles I can ripple), which isn't common with many CMTers. > >Kat > >Strange, isn't it. > I have type 2 and have always bruised easy, calves? I seem to remember having those! (stick legs,>Becky M.) >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. >Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/2120/5/_/616793/_/952226828/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 << Next time I save myself and not the plates! >> Good thinking , I hope you remember! And all I can say about your story is OUCH! Welcome to CMTUS. Kat in Seattle type 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 << Next time I save myself and not the plates! >> Good thinking , I hope you remember! And all I can say about your story is OUCH! Welcome to CMTUS. Kat in Seattle type 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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