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Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

to meet you!

Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

Rhonda

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Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

to meet you!

Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

Rhonda

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Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

to meet you!

Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

Rhonda

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Thank you, Rhonda, for your quick response about the vits and herbs.

I am not clear if these supplements, herbal and otherwise, are directly

related to CMT or to good health in general. I do take vitamin E regularly

and have in the past taken vitamin C regularly (have been slacking) and do

generally take astragulus and ginseng (panax) and some bee products. The

astragulus boosts my immune system, as does the ginseng and bee 'stuff' and

gives me a bit of extra energy. I do have lots of herbal and sort of heal

yourself books, so I can look the things you listed up, but since I am kinda

lazy, not to mention busy doing the stuff of the day, perhaps you can tell

me if and how the evening primrose oil, angelica and potassium are helpful

to you.

I have been trying triphala which is a colon cleansing concoction made of -

I believe - three fruits. Have you, or anyone else, heard of this. Lately,

however, I have been incorporating acidophilus for a healthy colon.

I don't know if digestive problems are something that is common with CMT,

but my mom, who most likely had the disease but was never diagnosed, died of

colon cancer. The doctor told her that this cancer is familial and that us

kids should beware. Probably no connection, but there have been other

digestive problems in my family and so I was curious.

Regarding the vitamin C, are you familiar with 'The Anatomy of An Illness'

written by Norman Cousins? He became very ill and to combat it took

extremely large doses of vitamin C (injections). It seemed to help him. He

also used laughter as a medicine, watching comedies which would caused him

to laugh. The book is largely about the placebo effect - how one can take

something like a sugar tablet and believe that it is going to work, and it

does. Mind over matter and all that. Reading his book opened many doors for

me. I have read a number of books on the part positive, successful thinking

plays in healing (if anyone is interested, I've got lots of titles). This is

an area I am really interested in.

In fact, a few years ago I went to hear the Daly Lama and others, including

Herbert Benson ('The 5 Minute Relaxation Response'... book?) on the part the

mind plays in healing diseases. And creating them.

A while back someone - I believe it was Kathleen, if not forgive my

forgetfulness - asked my why I would want to investigate genetics, etc and

what I was hoping for by doing so, if I had my diagnosis.

My answer to that is, we only know a little - even the doctors - about this

human experience and especially nerves. There is ALWAYS hope. I do have it

in my heart and I believe that it is essential that I try to keep that

alive. It is not necessarily a cure that I hope for but a richer life. If I

am in chronic pain, which I have been for certain seasons, my ability to

appreciate the richness is diminished. If nothing else, I want to not only

pass the genetics on to my kids, but also the hope and the hunger for a

better understanding. I guess I saw my family close their eyes to the

realities of this disease (when I was young) and to the possibilities that

are available in the midst of CMT. I am done closing my eyes and want to

check out all the options. It is empowering.

One thing I have seen through my involvement with people with chronic

diseases - from AIDS to alcoholism to CMT - is that one feels powerless. And

although we may ultimately be powerless over the presence of this disease in

our lives, there are aspects which we do have power over. Realizing this and

embracing the possibilities is sort of invigorating. Again, it's about

renewing the sense of hope.

And if nothing else comes from it, is one great adventure!

Sorry, if I have rambled on, spewing words that are not useful. I suppose I

am the sort who listens, reading, gathers ideas, and then finally

responds...at some length and with some passion. Forgive me. I do appreciate

everyone's helpful and thoughtful words. Honestly.

Anyway, y'all have a nice day!

Peace, Marc

Re: Digest Number 125

>

>

> Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

> Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

> To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

> to meet you!

> Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

> and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

> is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

> think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

> as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

> and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

> chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

> IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

> ---------------------------

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Thank you, Rhonda, for your quick response about the vits and herbs.

I am not clear if these supplements, herbal and otherwise, are directly

related to CMT or to good health in general. I do take vitamin E regularly

and have in the past taken vitamin C regularly (have been slacking) and do

generally take astragulus and ginseng (panax) and some bee products. The

astragulus boosts my immune system, as does the ginseng and bee 'stuff' and

gives me a bit of extra energy. I do have lots of herbal and sort of heal

yourself books, so I can look the things you listed up, but since I am kinda

lazy, not to mention busy doing the stuff of the day, perhaps you can tell

me if and how the evening primrose oil, angelica and potassium are helpful

to you.

I have been trying triphala which is a colon cleansing concoction made of -

I believe - three fruits. Have you, or anyone else, heard of this. Lately,

however, I have been incorporating acidophilus for a healthy colon.

I don't know if digestive problems are something that is common with CMT,

but my mom, who most likely had the disease but was never diagnosed, died of

colon cancer. The doctor told her that this cancer is familial and that us

kids should beware. Probably no connection, but there have been other

digestive problems in my family and so I was curious.

Regarding the vitamin C, are you familiar with 'The Anatomy of An Illness'

written by Norman Cousins? He became very ill and to combat it took

extremely large doses of vitamin C (injections). It seemed to help him. He

also used laughter as a medicine, watching comedies which would caused him

to laugh. The book is largely about the placebo effect - how one can take

something like a sugar tablet and believe that it is going to work, and it

does. Mind over matter and all that. Reading his book opened many doors for

me. I have read a number of books on the part positive, successful thinking

plays in healing (if anyone is interested, I've got lots of titles). This is

an area I am really interested in.

In fact, a few years ago I went to hear the Daly Lama and others, including

Herbert Benson ('The 5 Minute Relaxation Response'... book?) on the part the

mind plays in healing diseases. And creating them.

A while back someone - I believe it was Kathleen, if not forgive my

forgetfulness - asked my why I would want to investigate genetics, etc and

what I was hoping for by doing so, if I had my diagnosis.

My answer to that is, we only know a little - even the doctors - about this

human experience and especially nerves. There is ALWAYS hope. I do have it

in my heart and I believe that it is essential that I try to keep that

alive. It is not necessarily a cure that I hope for but a richer life. If I

am in chronic pain, which I have been for certain seasons, my ability to

appreciate the richness is diminished. If nothing else, I want to not only

pass the genetics on to my kids, but also the hope and the hunger for a

better understanding. I guess I saw my family close their eyes to the

realities of this disease (when I was young) and to the possibilities that

are available in the midst of CMT. I am done closing my eyes and want to

check out all the options. It is empowering.

One thing I have seen through my involvement with people with chronic

diseases - from AIDS to alcoholism to CMT - is that one feels powerless. And

although we may ultimately be powerless over the presence of this disease in

our lives, there are aspects which we do have power over. Realizing this and

embracing the possibilities is sort of invigorating. Again, it's about

renewing the sense of hope.

And if nothing else comes from it, is one great adventure!

Sorry, if I have rambled on, spewing words that are not useful. I suppose I

am the sort who listens, reading, gathers ideas, and then finally

responds...at some length and with some passion. Forgive me. I do appreciate

everyone's helpful and thoughtful words. Honestly.

Anyway, y'all have a nice day!

Peace, Marc

Re: Digest Number 125

>

>

> Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

> Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

> To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

> to meet you!

> Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

> and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

> is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

> think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

> as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

> and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

> chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

> IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

> ---------------------------

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Thank you, Rhonda, for your quick response about the vits and herbs.

I am not clear if these supplements, herbal and otherwise, are directly

related to CMT or to good health in general. I do take vitamin E regularly

and have in the past taken vitamin C regularly (have been slacking) and do

generally take astragulus and ginseng (panax) and some bee products. The

astragulus boosts my immune system, as does the ginseng and bee 'stuff' and

gives me a bit of extra energy. I do have lots of herbal and sort of heal

yourself books, so I can look the things you listed up, but since I am kinda

lazy, not to mention busy doing the stuff of the day, perhaps you can tell

me if and how the evening primrose oil, angelica and potassium are helpful

to you.

I have been trying triphala which is a colon cleansing concoction made of -

I believe - three fruits. Have you, or anyone else, heard of this. Lately,

however, I have been incorporating acidophilus for a healthy colon.

I don't know if digestive problems are something that is common with CMT,

but my mom, who most likely had the disease but was never diagnosed, died of

colon cancer. The doctor told her that this cancer is familial and that us

kids should beware. Probably no connection, but there have been other

digestive problems in my family and so I was curious.

Regarding the vitamin C, are you familiar with 'The Anatomy of An Illness'

written by Norman Cousins? He became very ill and to combat it took

extremely large doses of vitamin C (injections). It seemed to help him. He

also used laughter as a medicine, watching comedies which would caused him

to laugh. The book is largely about the placebo effect - how one can take

something like a sugar tablet and believe that it is going to work, and it

does. Mind over matter and all that. Reading his book opened many doors for

me. I have read a number of books on the part positive, successful thinking

plays in healing (if anyone is interested, I've got lots of titles). This is

an area I am really interested in.

In fact, a few years ago I went to hear the Daly Lama and others, including

Herbert Benson ('The 5 Minute Relaxation Response'... book?) on the part the

mind plays in healing diseases. And creating them.

A while back someone - I believe it was Kathleen, if not forgive my

forgetfulness - asked my why I would want to investigate genetics, etc and

what I was hoping for by doing so, if I had my diagnosis.

My answer to that is, we only know a little - even the doctors - about this

human experience and especially nerves. There is ALWAYS hope. I do have it

in my heart and I believe that it is essential that I try to keep that

alive. It is not necessarily a cure that I hope for but a richer life. If I

am in chronic pain, which I have been for certain seasons, my ability to

appreciate the richness is diminished. If nothing else, I want to not only

pass the genetics on to my kids, but also the hope and the hunger for a

better understanding. I guess I saw my family close their eyes to the

realities of this disease (when I was young) and to the possibilities that

are available in the midst of CMT. I am done closing my eyes and want to

check out all the options. It is empowering.

One thing I have seen through my involvement with people with chronic

diseases - from AIDS to alcoholism to CMT - is that one feels powerless. And

although we may ultimately be powerless over the presence of this disease in

our lives, there are aspects which we do have power over. Realizing this and

embracing the possibilities is sort of invigorating. Again, it's about

renewing the sense of hope.

And if nothing else comes from it, is one great adventure!

Sorry, if I have rambled on, spewing words that are not useful. I suppose I

am the sort who listens, reading, gathers ideas, and then finally

responds...at some length and with some passion. Forgive me. I do appreciate

everyone's helpful and thoughtful words. Honestly.

Anyway, y'all have a nice day!

Peace, Marc

Re: Digest Number 125

>

>

> Hej Rose Marie- Min mormors familje kommer från Hallands lan och

> Småland. Min svensk är inte så mycket bra!

> To Betty- I am from NW PA near DuBois on I-80. In the mountains! Glad

> to meet you!

> Marc, I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin C, Potassium, a multi, Iron,

> and for herbs, and a Colon Cleansing concoction which I think

> is important for body strength and to keep everything happy inside. I

> think it has dandelion and milk thistle in it. I do drink alot of water

> as well. I notice if I eat too much sugar, my fatigue becomes worse,

> and I feel worse. I only have a weight problem because I eat too much

> chocolate and french fries! Really, I only weigh 123, but it is

> IMPERATIVE for me to keep as much weight off my legs as possible.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

> ---------------------------

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What a wonderful letter Marc. You know I don't think anybody on this list

ever feels that they have wasted their time by reading anybody's posts. They

are so unique and each and everybody's opinions and thoughts touch us

differently. Thanks Marc for brightening my day!

Betty

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In a message dated 1/17/0 10:36:14 PM, you wrote:

< >

Hi, this is Martha, replying to multiple messages! Dom, I love what your

surgeon said about 'if it doesn't hurt, don't touch it'!!! Barbara, I live

in the N. Va. / Washington area. I agree with many of the things you said in

your reply to me. Somehow in a disease with this many variations, a dr. not

open to options besides her own specialty should be avoided. And to not know

that CP presents a whole different rash of options......amazing. To me the

most alarming thing is the devascularization of the foot during surgery.

Many of you are talking about medication for pains, chronic and sharp

pains.....are these something that got worse or happened due to surgery? The

burning nerves etc???

We went for the second PT visit, had 4 people there learning the proper

technique to position his foot to neutral and stretch the muscles. Larry

thinks he is in seventh heaven, attention and things that feel good.....not

to mention and elevator massage bed....

Gretchen, on todays 127 digest, there were no messages on the end of it for

me to read...just ended at the end of the list like the first day!

Thanks again for all the info and help! Martha

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Well, I'm glad. I guess that's why we are all here. M

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> From: Buchie54@...

>

> What a wonderful letter Marc. You know I don't think anybody on this list

> ever feels that they have wasted their time by reading anybody's posts.

They

> are so unique and each and everybody's opinions and thoughts touch us

> differently. Thanks Marc for brightening my day!

> Betty

>

> ---------------------------

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>>>Turns out my baby girl is allergic to BEEF! Haven't seen any postings

for that so I thought I would share that one with y'all. I almost fell off

my chair when the allergist called me at work to give me the results. He

said it was very interesting because he's never had a patient with a beef

allergy. Last thing I want to be to the medical community is

" interesting " . Anyways...off to get lunch ready for daycare tomorrow and

then off to bed! Just thought I'd share this with you all. Everyone take

care!

Missy

Oakdale, MN<<<

Hi Missy

At SoyAllergyUnited (yahoo group for soy allergies) there is a mom whose son

is allergic to beef.

pookas00@...> " pookas00@...>

> -Mom to:

> Colby-3 yrs-EE,soy, rice, corn, beef

> Hunter -2 yrs-allergies yet unknown, eczema

Regards,

Ronèl

Ps. Regarding the homeopathic remedy Apis: it's made from the honeybee, and

is usually recommended for mild allergic reactions, 1M is a dosage (quite

strong; nor really suitable for the home prescriber unless you know what

you're doing) (Mild being the operative word: when we still considered

homeopathy we didn't yet know that Christiaan was anaphalactic)

Pps. We now carry around an adrenalin injection for Christiaan

(6 -anaphalactic to peanuts, tree nuts and soy). It is such a rare allergy

here, that even the paed isn't really up to speed (he is excellent,

otherwise, and he is reading up as much as we are). I have read about an

adrenalin inhaler - anyone know how effective it is? Also read about a

Phenergan pill - anyone? We're not keen on sending the injection to school

(mainly because the adrenalin comes seperately and you still have to measure

off the 3ml he has to get - more than that can apparently kill him, so

wouldn't want to take that chance with a panicky teacher!)

Ppps. Came across something interesting yesterday: Vitamin E is derived from

soy! (Iow no multi-vitamin sups for him!)

Pppps. What are Sloppy Jo's?! LOL sounds, erm, well, sloppy...

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Hi!

Are Epi Pens unavailable where you live?

That way the dosage is premeasured.

Sloppy Jo's are well... Ground beef in a tomato type sauce. Not Chile and not quite spaghetti sauce, lol. you spoon it on a bun and eat it like a hamburger.

Mine comes out of a can ::::blush:::::

Smiles,

Duran ~*~Cherry Bubbins~*~

simply...charming!

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We're not keen on sending the injection to school(mainly because the adrenalin comes seperately and you still have to measureoff the 3ml he has to get - more than that can apparently kill him, sowouldn't want to take that chance with a panicky teacher!)Pppps. What are Sloppy Jo's?! LOL sounds, erm, well, sloppy...

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