Re: INSULIN INJECTIONS CAN BE STOPPED WITH HELP OF INDIAN HERBALS? AT PRESENT, IT SE

[Guest guest]

> NOTE : I AM POSTING THIS MESSAGE ONCE AGAIN FROM A DIFFERENT E-MAIL

> ID BECAUSE SOME MODERATORS HAVE BANNED ME TO LET YOU ALL INFORM

> REGARDING PROGRESS IN ILLNESS OF MY SON ONLY ON THEIR BELIEF THAT I

> AM TRYING TO PROMOTE THE INDIAN HERBALS! I ONCE AGAIN ASSURE YOU

ALL

> THAT What I have shared is based on my own experience…. In no way

> do

> I recommend the Indian Herbal treatments without the guidance of a

> physician… I clearly understand that Type 1 means the pancreas

> does

> not work - except during the honeymoon phase and that does not last

> forever. I hope that time will clear all these confusions!

>

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> MY BANNED E-MAIL TO ALL DIABITICS

>

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> Dear,

>

> Thank you so much for your e-mail reply regarding my son's

> illness.

>

> Thanks a lot for the information provided by you. It is very

> important for me and for my whole family as here, in India; we lack

> such type of latest information in the particular field that is

IDDM

> (Diabetes Type 1).

>

> I really understand that time is the best healer of all the

> problems. I also understand that most of the diabetes medicines I

> read about, which are taken by mouth, are for Type Two diabetics &

> will not be helpful for my son, who is a Type One diabetic. He

tests

> his blood sugar thrice a day & carries some form of glucose with

him

> at all time!

>

> I would like to inform you that I am trying some Indian

Herbals

> since 17th May 2004 as advised by an Aayurved Expert here in India

> without discontinuing the insulin injections to my son & his daily

> blood sugar tests. Till 16th May 2004, before starting the Indian

> Herbals, my son was regularly given 35 units of insulin (20 units

at

> noon & 15 units at evening) daily. After starting the Indian

Herbals

> on 17th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the daily dose of

> insulin from 35 units (20 units at noon & 15 units at evening) to

30

> units a day (18 units at noon & 12 units at evening) on the basis

of

> FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports on 19th May 2004.

>

> Again on 22nd May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the

daily

> dose of insulin from 30 units (18 units at noon & 12 units at

> evening) to 25 units a day (15 units at noon & 10 units at evening)

> on the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> Once again on 24th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce

the

> daily dose of insulin from 25 units (15 units at noon & 10 units at

> evening) to 22 units a day (12 units at noon & 10 units at evening)

> on the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> Again on 28th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the

daily

> dose of insulin from 22 units a day (12 units at noon & 10 units at

> evening) to 16 units a day (8 units at noon & 8 units at evening)

on

> the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> It means, based on the effects of the Indian Herbals, dosage

of

> Insulin reduced to more than 50% within a time period of about 15-

17

> days! The medication is still continuing under strict medical

> supervision. Hope, the dosage of Insulin will come to `Zero'

> level in

> near future with help of the Indian Herbals!

>

> As and when (if possible); I discontinue the insulin

injections

> to my son on advice of my doctor, I will inform you accordingly.

>

> What I have shared is based on my own experience…. In no way

> do

> I recommend the Indian Herbal treatments without the guidance of a

> physician…

>

> My e-mail ids are prakashthakrar@r... &

> exserviceman001@r...

>

> Again thanks for your valuable support.

>

> Best Regards,

> Prakashbhai Thakrar

> INDIA

>

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> CAUTION TO ALL FROM Cheeky From Egypt because it seems fishy to him!

>

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> From: " up & away "

> To: no_reply , diabetes_int

> Subject: RE: [Diabetes and Your Emotions] DIABETES

> TYPE 1 INDIA (INSULIN INJECTIONS CAN BE STOPPED WITH HELP OF INDIAN

> HERBALS? AT PRESENT, IT

>

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> From: " up & away "

> To: diabetes-in-egypt

> Subject: Re: [Diab.Eg]sounds fishy ( DIABETES TYPE 1 INDIA)

>

> Hi all please be very careful of what this guy is obviously

> promoting. all over the world millions are being poured in to

> diabetic research yet in india he says there is a miracle break!!!!

> GIVE ME ABREAK!!!!! the sad part is i have already answered his

> questionable story in other diabetic groups but yet vunerable

> guilable people might write privately to him and get fooled in to

> paying for products which might be harmful. sugar water or tablets

or

> simple spices!! its very unfortunate he chose to start the ploy

using

> his son as being TYpe 1. this is simply sales tactics please use

> sensible judgemen. Ahmed your answer was wise but i am a bit more

> pessimistic about him subscribng to so many diabetic support groups

> in one go!!

> regards

> cheeky

>

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> VIEWS OF Dr.Ashraf A.El-Sheikh PhD.MACP,Consultant Diabetologist,

> Chairman Abou Seifein Diabetes Center and Insulin Pump & CGMS

Expert

>

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> ============From: " Dr.Ashraf El Sheikh "

> To: prakashthakrar@r...

> Cc: iskandar.moussa@m..., saleh.sayyour@m...

> Subject: Indian Herbes

>

> Dear Prakashthakrar

>

> Thank you for your nice clear message, i am very happy with your

> son's improvement and the continuous decrease in his insulin

> requirements. BUT i hope this improvement is not an early " honey

> moon " period which occurs with most type1 patients in their first

> year of diagnosis?? where insulin demands dramatically decrease as

> the pancreatic beta cells is releived from the glucotoxicity

> state,,but later the autoimmune system may attack again the beta

cell

> (the second wave) and destruct the residual cells,,, i am sorry to

> tell you the these facts but i might be wrong? maybe your herbes

are

> working as glucosidase inhibitors decreasing carbohydrate

> absorption?? i don't know,,time will answer all these questions.

>

> Again congratulations for the improvement and good luck

>

> Dr.Ashraf A.El-Sheikh PhD.MACP

> Consultant Diabetologist

> Chairman Abou Seifein Diabetes Center

> Insulin Pump & CGMS Expert

> Fax (+202) 3365505

> Tel (+202) 3388411

I have a question and that is why are there so many diabetics in

India when all this great herbs are available? It seems that India

would be diabetic free.

[Guest guest]

> NOTE : I AM POSTING THIS MESSAGE ONCE AGAIN FROM A DIFFERENT E-MAIL

> ID BECAUSE SOME MODERATORS HAVE BANNED ME TO LET YOU ALL INFORM

> REGARDING PROGRESS IN ILLNESS OF MY SON ONLY ON THEIR BELIEF THAT I

> AM TRYING TO PROMOTE THE INDIAN HERBALS! I ONCE AGAIN ASSURE YOU

ALL

> THAT What I have shared is based on my own experience…. In no way

> do

> I recommend the Indian Herbal treatments without the guidance of a

> physician… I clearly understand that Type 1 means the pancreas

> does

> not work - except during the honeymoon phase and that does not last

> forever. I hope that time will clear all these confusions!

>

======================================================================

> MY BANNED E-MAIL TO ALL DIABITICS

>

======================================================================

> Dear,

>

> Thank you so much for your e-mail reply regarding my son's

> illness.

>

> Thanks a lot for the information provided by you. It is very

> important for me and for my whole family as here, in India; we lack

> such type of latest information in the particular field that is

IDDM

> (Diabetes Type 1).

>

> I really understand that time is the best healer of all the

> problems. I also understand that most of the diabetes medicines I

> read about, which are taken by mouth, are for Type Two diabetics &

> will not be helpful for my son, who is a Type One diabetic. He

tests

> his blood sugar thrice a day & carries some form of glucose with

him

> at all time!

>

> I would like to inform you that I am trying some Indian

Herbals

> since 17th May 2004 as advised by an Aayurved Expert here in India

> without discontinuing the insulin injections to my son & his daily

> blood sugar tests. Till 16th May 2004, before starting the Indian

> Herbals, my son was regularly given 35 units of insulin (20 units

at

> noon & 15 units at evening) daily. After starting the Indian

Herbals

> on 17th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the daily dose of

> insulin from 35 units (20 units at noon & 15 units at evening) to

30

> units a day (18 units at noon & 12 units at evening) on the basis

of

> FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports on 19th May 2004.

>

> Again on 22nd May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the

daily

> dose of insulin from 30 units (18 units at noon & 12 units at

> evening) to 25 units a day (15 units at noon & 10 units at evening)

> on the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> Once again on 24th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce

the

> daily dose of insulin from 25 units (15 units at noon & 10 units at

> evening) to 22 units a day (12 units at noon & 10 units at evening)

> on the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> Again on 28th May 2004, our doctor compelled to reduce the

daily

> dose of insulin from 22 units a day (12 units at noon & 10 units at

> evening) to 16 units a day (8 units at noon & 8 units at evening)

on

> the basis of FBS & PPBS (Blood Sugar) reports!

>

> It means, based on the effects of the Indian Herbals, dosage

of

> Insulin reduced to more than 50% within a time period of about 15-

17

> days! The medication is still continuing under strict medical

> supervision. Hope, the dosage of Insulin will come to `Zero'

> level in

> near future with help of the Indian Herbals!

>

> As and when (if possible); I discontinue the insulin

injections

> to my son on advice of my doctor, I will inform you accordingly.

>

> What I have shared is based on my own experience…. In no way

> do

> I recommend the Indian Herbal treatments without the guidance of a

> physician…

>

> My e-mail ids are prakashthakrar@r... &

> exserviceman001@r...

>

> Again thanks for your valuable support.

>

> Best Regards,

> Prakashbhai Thakrar

> INDIA

>

======================================================================

> CAUTION TO ALL FROM Cheeky From Egypt because it seems fishy to him!

>

======================================================================

> From: " up & away "

> To: no_reply , diabetes_int

> Subject: RE: [Diabetes and Your Emotions] DIABETES

> TYPE 1 INDIA (INSULIN INJECTIONS CAN BE STOPPED WITH HELP OF INDIAN

> HERBALS? AT PRESENT, IT

>

======================================================================

> From: " up & away "

> To: diabetes-in-egypt

> Subject: Re: [Diab.Eg]sounds fishy ( DIABETES TYPE 1 INDIA)

>

> Hi all please be very careful of what this guy is obviously

> promoting. all over the world millions are being poured in to

> diabetic research yet in india he says there is a miracle break!!!!

> GIVE ME ABREAK!!!!! the sad part is i have already answered his

> questionable story in other diabetic groups but yet vunerable

> guilable people might write privately to him and get fooled in to

> paying for products which might be harmful. sugar water or tablets

or

> simple spices!! its very unfortunate he chose to start the ploy

using

> his son as being TYpe 1. this is simply sales tactics please use

> sensible judgemen. Ahmed your answer was wise but i am a bit more

> pessimistic about him subscribng to so many diabetic support groups

> in one go!!

> regards

> cheeky

>

======================================================================

> VIEWS OF Dr.Ashraf A.El-Sheikh PhD.MACP,Consultant Diabetologist,

> Chairman Abou Seifein Diabetes Center and Insulin Pump & CGMS

Expert

>

======================================================================

> ============From: " Dr.Ashraf El Sheikh "

> To: prakashthakrar@r...

> Cc: iskandar.moussa@m..., saleh.sayyour@m...

> Subject: Indian Herbes

>

> Dear Prakashthakrar

>

> Thank you for your nice clear message, i am very happy with your

> son's improvement and the continuous decrease in his insulin

> requirements. BUT i hope this improvement is not an early " honey

> moon " period which occurs with most type1 patients in their first

> year of diagnosis?? where insulin demands dramatically decrease as

> the pancreatic beta cells is releived from the glucotoxicity

> state,,but later the autoimmune system may attack again the beta

cell

> (the second wave) and destruct the residual cells,,, i am sorry to

> tell you the these facts but i might be wrong? maybe your herbes

are

> working as glucosidase inhibitors decreasing carbohydrate

> absorption?? i don't know,,time will answer all these questions.

>

> Again congratulations for the improvement and good luck

>

> Dr.Ashraf A.El-Sheikh PhD.MACP

> Consultant Diabetologist

> Chairman Abou Seifein Diabetes Center

> Insulin Pump & CGMS Expert

> Fax (+202) 3365505

> Tel (+202) 3388411

I have a question and that is why are there so many diabetics in

India when all this great herbs are available? It seems that India

would be diabetic free.