Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 When I had my fillings done by Dr. Mark Breiner, they had someone come in and collect blood and that was tested against all dental materials and dental metals on the market. They compiled a list of those to use and those not to use. This seems to be standard practice. I have used the list in another state and the dentist actually asked for it. I cannot recall just now, who does the tests, but I would go with either ceramic or ceramic composites. You are very right about " plastic " and it should be avoided due to its estrogenic properties. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 In a message dated 12/8/01 8:41:02 PM Central Standard Time, jannarone@... writes: << they had someone come in and collect blood and that was tested against all dental materials and dental metals on the market. They compiled a list of those to use and those not to use. This seems to be standard practice. I have used the list in another state and the dentist actually asked for it. I cannot recall just now, who does the tests, >> I know that this is done by Clifford Labs. Also, many naturopaths can do some type of bioelectrical testing that is supposed to be just as accurate. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 Yes, Clifford Labs did mine. I had forgotten their name, but you are correct. Doctor's who use the Hal Huggins protocol usually use Clifford and you get a list of materials to use and not to use. My dentist does go by that list. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 Also, the Clifford labs tests do rank your sensitivities. For example, it the blood test might come back with nickle: allergic high, or allergic low, or not allergic, something like that. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 > > Can anyone tell me what replacements there are with filling? > Are there choices? I was reading one person who posted recently > about a plastic filling but I don't think that would be a good > replacement for me. I understand plastics release estrogenic > properties. This wouldn't work for me since I am estrogen > dominant, terribly. > > Liz D Dear Liz, There are two companies that can do these dental compatibility tests. One that is recommended by those dentist that follow the protocol of Dr. Hal Huggins is Peak Energy Performance. Other dentists prefer Cliford Compatibility Testing. Both are in Colorado and from what I understand used to work together,but split into two separate labs when there was disagreement on the most proper way to test for compatiblity. If you call Hal Huggins' office, will tell you that the Clifford test will let too many materials slip through that are not safe. See which one your dentist recommends. I went to my local Lab Corp that was listed in the yellow pages. Just look under laboratories in the yellow pages. I had the kit from Clifford Labatories given to me from my dentist' office. I had the blood drawn early in the day on an empty stomach. The lab spun the blood until it became a serum. Then it was frozen along with one of those little gel packets that was to be frozen also and placed next to my sample, and packed in a strofoam box that was all supplied with the kit. I put the sample in my brother's freezer who lives next to the FED EX office where it would be shipped overnight. I called FED EX to find out when their last shipment went out that night for Colorado. They told me 7:45 PM. So I retrived the sample from my brother's freezer and took it to FED EX myself just before shipment. I wanted to make sure my sample arrived cold. If your dentist sends it to FED EX, it would probably be sent no later than 5 PM when his office closes. (Or maybe before 5 PM.) So therefore it could be at the FED EX office for several hours unrefrigerated before shipment. It might not make that much difference, but I just wanted to take special percautions. By the way, Clifford Laboratories has a special arrangements with FED EX where they pay for the shipment if you use their special label that is supplied with the kit. I don't know about Peak Energy Performance. Marie Flowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 In a message dated 12/9/01 11:11:39 AM Central Standard Time, MarieFlow@... writes: > > > > > Can anyone tell me what replacements there are with filling? > > Are there choices? I was reading one person who posted recently > > about a plastic filling but I don't think that would be a good > > replacement for me. I used composite ceramic that are cured with ultraviolet light and they are still good after nearly ten years, no heat or cold problems, none fell out and none cracked. You can never eat ice again or chew gum, but otherwise they work for me. There are also ceramics that are drop ins that I heard Huggins uses. I think they are a fortune. I too used Clifford for my materials sensitivity tests. This was before the aforementioned split of the two companies. I had two plastic fillings put in my child's baby molars and they allowed cavities underneath and then he had an infection so bad with an abscess that the anesthesia, etc. would not work. So my 5 year old had two baby teeth pulled without novacaine, which hurt (both of us). I am anti-plastic fillings for that and the estrogenic mimic reason mentioned. I imagine there is some form of plastic in the ceramic composite, but I used it anyway. I understood that once it cured plastic did not leach out, but where have we heard that one before? SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what replacements there are with filling? > > > Are there choices? I was reading one person who posted recently > > > about a plastic filling but I don't think that would be a good > > > replacement for me. > > I used composite ceramic that are cured with ultraviolet light If it was cured with UV it was the plastic composite, not a ceramic. Porcelain is a ceramic. Ceramics are made as inlays or onlays and are hard and glued to your tooth. Most people, even the chemically sensitive, tolerate composites well. >and they are > still good after nearly ten years, no heat or cold problems, none fell out > and none cracked. You can never eat ice again or chew gum, but otherwise they > work for me. There are also ceramics that are drop ins that I heard Huggins > uses. I think they are a fortune. > > I too used Clifford for my materials sensitivity tests. This was before the > aforementioned split of the two companies. > > I had two plastic fillings put in my child's baby molars and they allowed > cavities underneath and then he had an infection so bad with an abscess that > the anesthesia, etc. would not work. So my 5 year old had two baby teeth > pulled without novacaine, which hurt (both of us). I am anti-plastic fillings > for that and the estrogenic mimic reason mentioned. I imagine there is some > form of plastic in the ceramic composite, but I used it anyway. I understood > that once it cured plastic did not leach out, but where have we heard that > one before? SJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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