RE: different opinions (was Re: Question for AndyRe;NDF

[Guest guest]

I know how you feel. I have been going round and round for years and it is

hard to stick to anything because when you get side effects you just say,

" Well maybe I should try something else. " Overall its seems that ALA is the

most promising but you can also hurt yourself so that gives me great

hesitation. I have, however, found something milder that is my staple now:

sodium alginate, an extract of seaweed. It is natural with minimal side

effects and gives energy. It was developed in Russian for radiation after

the nuclear disaster there but also chelates metals. There is a great web

site: www.modifilan.com. All you need is one more thing to look up! This is

fairly cheap and low risk with good results, scientific studies. The

president of the company will talk to you at length and then send more info

not on the web. It binds mercury in the gut so at least should stop some of

the recirculation created by ALA or other chelators.

different opinions (was Re: Question

for AndyRe;NDF

> I am , and I couldn't agree with you more about

> the confussion on heavy metal detox. It is so

> contoversial, it is driving me nuts! Too many paths,

> and not enough money, time or emotional strength to

> check them all out!

>

> Help someone, please.

Hi .

I don't know HOW to help. You are correct-- there are

many opinions. If you want to read a brief " statement "

of mine on this, read the intro here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/Andy_dose_sched

I think I said what I think about it pretty well in that

intro.....

So, um, how can I help? I can tell you what I think.

Great, then you have another opinion.

It is difficult that there are so many opinions and it

is hard when one has limited time and energy and resources.

But, somehow we all have to figure out which path we want

to try. Or how to decide. Or something. What can I

tell you that would be useful to you in this process?

> > Don't want to sound annoyed but all you

> > great thinkers need

> > to get your heads together and agree or disagree on

> > things, in saying

> > that i know you are doing your best but I'm almost

> > fed up with

> > hearing 10 plus opinions on everything and my

> > instinct is almost worn

> > out. Hope I don't sound too negative I'm not meaning

> > to it's just so

> > frustrating even more so over here in Oz where no

> > one has a clue.

> > Caleb

Hi Caleb,

It does not sound " negative " to me, it sounds like VERY

REALISTIC frustration. This is very normal IMO given the

very real situation with EXTREMELY conflicting opinions.

I have read Ray's website, I read the DAMS newsletter, I've

read Mercola and Klinghardt, I have read the DAN! protocol,

I have read Andy's book (some of it LOL), I have read

Huggin's booklet on detox. They disagree WILDLY. Yep.

But, um, they are not about to get together and drop all

their ideas in the interest of " agreeing " . So, I think

you will be forced to cope with them disagreeing.

I am sorry if this is not helpful!

all I know of to do (myself) in such a situation is to

keep asking. I do understand being worn out!

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

I know how you feel. I recently tried my first found of ALA, 25mg every 3-4

hours. At first I felt spacy, and sometimes had small headaches, but

otherwise felt ok. But when I stopped, I was very sick the next day. So

this is scary to me. Is it dumping that mercury it is moving adn that is

why you get sick at the end of a round? If so where is it dumping it? I

think I will go back to NDF even though it is expensive. After the first

few weeks I always felt good after taking NDF, not lousy. But it is

possible the ALA gets better, or that it is worth the misery to get better,

it is just scary when you don't know...

Thanks,

Doris

----- Original Message -----

> I know how you feel. I have been going round and round for years and it is

> hard to stick to anything because when you get side effects you just say,

> " Well maybe I should try something else. " Overall its seems that ALA is

the

> most promising but you can also hurt yourself so that gives me great

> hesitation.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/27/02 2:28:23 PM Central Daylight Time,

dorisbrown9@... writes:

> Overall its seems that ALA is

> the

> > most promising but you can also hurt yourself so that gives me great

> > hesitation.

>

The only way you will hurt yourself with ALA is if you chelate in a fashion

not mentioned in the Cutler book or files. There are both " on " and " off "

days. Some people feel bad on and some feel bad off. There is a myriad of

stuff you can do either way, to make this entire drama less dramatic.

You probably have supplements on hand that will help with symptoms. List the

supplements you have and I bet the entire group will tell you which to keep

and which to throw out. If you have no testing, we can wing it. If you have

few dollars we can reduce the supplements to a minimum.

I understand that ALA by Twinlab is ok. I use it and it is in capsules so

that you can dump some out if you feel the level is too high.

Ask for some help with some specific questions. This group has never been

known to fail to help anyone get through crisis situations or simply learning

situations. SJ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/27/02 2:28:23 PM Central Daylight Time,

dorisbrown9@... writes:

> Overall its seems that ALA is

> the

> > most promising but you can also hurt yourself so that gives me great

> > hesitation.

>

The only way you will hurt yourself with ALA is if you chelate in a fashion

not mentioned in the Cutler book or files. There are both " on " and " off "

days. Some people feel bad on and some feel bad off. There is a myriad of

stuff you can do either way, to make this entire drama less dramatic.

You probably have supplements on hand that will help with symptoms. List the

supplements you have and I bet the entire group will tell you which to keep

and which to throw out. If you have no testing, we can wing it. If you have

few dollars we can reduce the supplements to a minimum.

I understand that ALA by Twinlab is ok. I use it and it is in capsules so

that you can dump some out if you feel the level is too high.

Ask for some help with some specific questions. This group has never been

known to fail to help anyone get through crisis situations or simply learning

situations. SJ