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Dawn, medicaid will pay for it. Call your medicaid worker and they will get

paperwork from your Dr. it may take a week or two. But your dr should be

able to get the formula until medicaid kicks in. I was told that if we paid

for any of the formula we would have problems getting medicaid to pick up the

tab also WIC will help. Your dr has to give the prescription to them and they

pay for so much and then medicaid pays for the rest or that is how it works

here in Texas. Do you know how long you guys have to be on the formula?

Alyssa is 3 and she refused to drink any of the formulas. such as peptimen jr

elecare neocate and neocate plus. the pharmacy has to order it they don't

carry it on the shelves. hope this helps. Tina

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Dawn, medicaid will pay for it. Call your medicaid worker and they will get

paperwork from your Dr. it may take a week or two. But your dr should be

able to get the formula until medicaid kicks in. I was told that if we paid

for any of the formula we would have problems getting medicaid to pick up the

tab also WIC will help. Your dr has to give the prescription to them and they

pay for so much and then medicaid pays for the rest or that is how it works

here in Texas. Do you know how long you guys have to be on the formula?

Alyssa is 3 and she refused to drink any of the formulas. such as peptimen jr

elecare neocate and neocate plus. the pharmacy has to order it they don't

carry it on the shelves. hope this helps. Tina

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Steph,

I would be more than happy to pay the shipping for the juice boxes. Please let

me know. Tricare paid for it? I thought I had no hope for Tricare, I was

pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get it approved.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic gastroenteritis,

Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due December 24)

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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Steph,

I would be more than happy to pay the shipping for the juice boxes. Please let

me know. Tricare paid for it? I thought I had no hope for Tricare, I was

pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get it approved.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic gastroenteritis,

Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due December 24)

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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Dawn,

Our insurance paid for the juice boxes 100% because it was his sole diet at the

time.

The ONLY thing we let our kids eat during their initial elemental trial period

was sugar and water type things (popsicles with NO fruit juice and candies with

NO fruit or any food proteins in them). Actually, it wasnt that difficult for

the 7 and 11 year old, they were told as long as they got their total formula

they could have any safe candy or popsicles at any time, day or night. (some

gummy worms and gummy candies, some life savers, some bubble gums are safe)..

You have to be very careful in the beginning to not give ANY food proteins.

After 6 weeks or so, you could introduce one food (like corn or rice).. but only

one at a time and I would give each food a good 7 days or more, before

introducing another.

Also, we have found with a couple of the kids that the amount they eat of any

certain food is important. For example, my 2-/yo can tolerate SOME potato

products, but if he eats too much, he will have symptoms. Same with my 7 y/o

and rice or potato.

I have a couple of cases of juice boxes I could send you --

Steph

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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Dawn,

Our insurance paid for the juice boxes 100% because it was his sole diet at the

time.

The ONLY thing we let our kids eat during their initial elemental trial period

was sugar and water type things (popsicles with NO fruit juice and candies with

NO fruit or any food proteins in them). Actually, it wasnt that difficult for

the 7 and 11 year old, they were told as long as they got their total formula

they could have any safe candy or popsicles at any time, day or night. (some

gummy worms and gummy candies, some life savers, some bubble gums are safe)..

You have to be very careful in the beginning to not give ANY food proteins.

After 6 weeks or so, you could introduce one food (like corn or rice).. but only

one at a time and I would give each food a good 7 days or more, before

introducing another.

Also, we have found with a couple of the kids that the amount they eat of any

certain food is important. For example, my 2-/yo can tolerate SOME potato

products, but if he eats too much, he will have symptoms. Same with my 7 y/o

and rice or potato.

I have a couple of cases of juice boxes I could send you --

Steph

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th, which

will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

flovent.

Cathy

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At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th, which

will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

flovent.

Cathy

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In a message dated 9/6/99 10:01:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

onegreatmom@... writes:

<< I was pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get it

approved. >>

We have Mass. state health ins. which I think is the same as medicaid. I

went to a local private pharmacy with my perscription, they gave me a months

supply of ensure, and submitted the paper work for approval. a few weeks

later a got a letter of approval, but had been getting the ensure all along

covered infull. Maybe a small pharmacy in your town will give you the juice

boxes while waiting for approval.

Cathy

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In a message dated 9/6/99 10:01:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

onegreatmom@... writes:

<< I was pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get it

approved. >>

We have Mass. state health ins. which I think is the same as medicaid. I

went to a local private pharmacy with my perscription, they gave me a months

supply of ensure, and submitted the paper work for approval. a few weeks

later a got a letter of approval, but had been getting the ensure all along

covered infull. Maybe a small pharmacy in your town will give you the juice

boxes while waiting for approval.

Cathy

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I had no trouble whatsover getting formula paid for. The doc just has to fill

out a medical necessity form saying that it is his sole source of nutrition.

They have to pay it.

Steph

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Steph,

I would be more than happy to pay the shipping for the juice boxes. Please

let me know. Tricare paid for it? I thought I had no hope for Tricare, I was

pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get it approved.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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I think our doctor explained that it is suggested when the only time they

are better is on the steroids. None of the other meds worked for BJ and we

can't keep him on Prednisone forever

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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> From: Dcjatben@...

>

> At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

> flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

> are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

> continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th,

which

> will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

> has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

> steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

> flovent.

>

> Cathy

>

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I think our doctor explained that it is suggested when the only time they

are better is on the steroids. None of the other meds worked for BJ and we

can't keep him on Prednisone forever

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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> From: Dcjatben@...

>

> At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

> flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

> are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

> continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th,

which

> will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

> has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

> steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

> flovent.

>

> Cathy

>

> ---------------------------

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Cathy-

I'd be willing to bet that the Flovent will work for you! How much are you

giving it and how are you giving it? I can think of no way that Flovent

could cause depression. It is a topical steroid -- kind of like putting

hydrocortisone on your skin -- it doesn't pass through your liver, so no

systemic side effects. However, I can think of LOTS of ways that EE could

cause depression. It bites and it bites big time.

If the Flovent does not work, then that would be the time to start the

elemental diet. I'm not sure why these docs want to use systemic steroids

instead --- Dr. 's study on elemental diets working for EE is well

known and well published.

Good luck!

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>From: Dcjatben@...

>

> At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

>flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

>are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

>continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th, which

>will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

>has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

>steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

>flovent.

>

> Cathy

>

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Cathy-

I'd be willing to bet that the Flovent will work for you! How much are you

giving it and how are you giving it? I can think of no way that Flovent

could cause depression. It is a topical steroid -- kind of like putting

hydrocortisone on your skin -- it doesn't pass through your liver, so no

systemic side effects. However, I can think of LOTS of ways that EE could

cause depression. It bites and it bites big time.

If the Flovent does not work, then that would be the time to start the

elemental diet. I'm not sure why these docs want to use systemic steroids

instead --- Dr. 's study on elemental diets working for EE is well

known and well published.

Good luck!

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>From: Dcjatben@...

>

> At what point is an elemental diet considered? is currently using

>flovent, and is having some success. He still has some reflux symptoms. We

>are keeping him off the foods he is alergic to of course, and he has

>continued his prilosec. Hi GI wants me to call him around Sept. 27th, which

>will be a month of flovent. he wants to redo the endo, and if still

>has symptoms he wants to go with tablet steroids. I don't like the idea of

>steroids. I think has developed depression as a side effect of the

>flovent.

>

> Cathy

>

>---------------------------

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In a message dated 9/6/99 7:10:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

transcription@... writes:

<<

I'd be willing to bet that the Flovent will work for you! How much are you

giving it and how are you giving it? I can think of no way that Flovent

could cause depression. >>

,

gets 2 puffs of 110mcg. that he puffs into his mouth then swallos, he

does this twice a day. On the package insert it says it has been related to

depression in the clinical setting, but that may be with the inhaled into the

lungs approach where it would go to the blood stream. Do you know whay

publications Dr. 's EE studies were in? I'ld like to get a copy,

Cathy

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In a message dated 9/7/99 1:10:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

transcription@... writes:

<<

The study was published in Gastroenterology 1995; 109;1503-1513

I have a copy if you have a fax #. I think Sharon may have an electronic

copy. That is a very low dose of Flovent to be used in this setting. We

were taking 3-4 times that amount.

>>

thanks Steph. you can fax it to me at my friends house, her fax # is

.

I wonder if it is such a low dose because is missing a kidney?

Cathy

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In a message dated 9/7/99 1:11:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

onegreatmom@... writes:

<< the problem is that they can't find

it anywhere.

>>

Can they call the manufacturer and have it sent to a pharmacy?

Cathy

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That's a good one......never heard of Neocate being on back order. LOL.

Sorry, but I went to the oley conference in SLC and Nestle was there with

the Peptemen Jr and all that stuff and I told them Spencer was on Vivonex

and previous Neocate and they said " Way out of our league " . Can't imagine

that it would be in Walmarts league. Please let us know what you really

get. But why can't you just go through an authorized home healthcare

company that can order from the company?

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>

>

> > From: Timmyandtina@...

> >

> > Dawn, medicaid will pay for it. Call your medicaid worker and they will

> get

> > paperwork from your Dr. it may take a week or two. But your dr should

be

> > able to get the formula until medicaid kicks in. I was told that if we

> paid

> > for any of the formula we would have problems getting medicaid to pick

up

> the

> > tab also WIC will help. Your dr has to give the prescription to them and

> they

> > pay for so much and then medicaid pays for the rest or that is how it

> works

> > here in Texas. Do you know how long you guys have to be on the formula?

> > Alyssa is 3 and she refused to drink any of the formulas. such as

peptimen

> jr

> > elecare neocate and neocate plus. the pharmacy has to order it they

don't

> > carry it on the shelves. hope this helps. Tina

> >

> > ---------------------------

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Thanks Cathy, I am working on Medicaid and Tricare (our Army insurance).

Meanwhile, I got WIC to pay for 4 cases, the problem is that they can't find

it anywhere.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

Re: [eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

> From: Dcjatben@...

>

> In a message dated 9/6/99 10:01:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> onegreatmom@... writes:

>

> << I was pretty sure Medicaid would pay but it would take a while to get

it

> approved. >>

>

> We have Mass. state health ins. which I think is the same as medicaid. I

> went to a local private pharmacy with my perscription, they gave me a

months

> supply of ensure, and submitted the paper work for approval. a few weeks

> later a got a letter of approval, but had been getting the ensure all

along

> covered infull. Maybe a small pharmacy in your town will give you the

juice

> boxes while waiting for approval.

>

> Cathy

>

> ---------------------------

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This is what the lady at Tricare told me this morning after I asked to speak to

a supervisor after talking to 3 other people who swore Tricare would not pay.

BJ's pediatrician just left and he just got a new one who is real unfamiliar

with him despite the other doctor's briefings about BJ. But she is looking into

writing this letter saying that it is his sole source of nutrition.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic gastroenteritis,

Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due December 24)

[eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

Ok, I have talked our GI doctor in trying the elemental diet off the

Prednisone but he still wants to try the Gastrocrom. I have some questions.

First, can I give him anything to eat? I know that he will be wanting to eat

something. Even if it is as simple as popcorn or rice cakes, it would satisfy

the desire to eat. We start the diet Wednesday (We couldn't find anyone who had

Neocate). Second, we are going to try the juice boxes to see if he will drink

enough. If not, then we will go back to tube feeding. Has anyone been able to

get the juice boxes covered by insurance? We are buying the first case but at

$113 a case, we can't continue to do this.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

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I am not sure how long BJ will be on the formula, I truly am not sure he is

going to drink enough. The GI doctor said he has to drink 5 cans a day.

WIC got 4 cases approved and now they are just working on finding a place to

get it. We ordered one case to hold us from Walmart but it was backordered.

Dawn-KS, mommy to Dakota, 7 and aka BJ, 3 (eosinophilic

gastroenteritis, Nissen, asthma, reflux), and mommy to Mackenzie Marie (due

December 24)

Re: [eosinophilic gastroenteritis] Elemental Diet

> From: Timmyandtina@...

>

> Dawn, medicaid will pay for it. Call your medicaid worker and they will

get

> paperwork from your Dr. it may take a week or two. But your dr should be

> able to get the formula until medicaid kicks in. I was told that if we

paid

> for any of the formula we would have problems getting medicaid to pick up

the

> tab also WIC will help. Your dr has to give the prescription to them and

they

> pay for so much and then medicaid pays for the rest or that is how it

works

> here in Texas. Do you know how long you guys have to be on the formula?

> Alyssa is 3 and she refused to drink any of the formulas. such as peptimen

jr

> elecare neocate and neocate plus. the pharmacy has to order it they don't

> carry it on the shelves. hope this helps. Tina

>

> ---------------------------

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In a message dated 9/7/99 4:11:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

onegreatmom@... writes:

<< the problem is that they can't find

it anywhere.

>>

Tell them to call SHS directly - the company that makes Neocate.

Here is the link.

http://www.shsweb.co.uk/neocate/refer.html " >Neocate Research

References

http://www.shsweb.co.uk/neocate/ " >Neocate Home Page

Love,

Sharon

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In a message dated 9/7/99 6:01:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

andrea.allred@... writes:

<< I don't think that the state can be that smart......lol. >>

NO WAY - The states have too much else to worry about than sick

kids!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love,

Sharon

BTW - I still have the letter that I used to get the insurance company to pay

for Clayton's formula.

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