Re: Andy: Metal plate

March 11, 2002

Marsha, Andy has sorta answered this question in miniature because I have

some surgical steel sutures that amount to almost no metal and I would guess

they have nickel in them. They hurt sometimes. I called the hospital and

doctor who put them in and they seem to be absolutely bound and determined to

NOT HELP ME find out if these contain nickel, to which I have become very

sensitive. Gold bothers me too.

I am chelating. I did ten dmps treatments IV and fared ok, although I would

have quit earlier if my doctor had been listening to me when they began to

make me sick.

Now I use ALA and what I understand is that I ought to keep an eye on my

nickel. Then I guess you'd use his book to develop some sort of an approach

to deal with nickel in your body. Neither of us can take ours out. Mine is in

my pilonidal sutures and it would probably set me back 6 months to have those

thin sutures removed. The doctor who did it was an idiot and I was not smart

enough to say " no " .

But then I was not smart enough to say no to the dentist who placed all the

fillings either.

That is probably all you will get from the group as far as similar

experience, unless Andy has something he will add. I do not think in my case

the nickel being taken out at this point would be good, for you it sounds

awful.

I am sure Andy will help if he reads your subject line. I just wanted to tell

my rather irrelevant story to you so that you have someone else to go on as

far as chelating with nickle. Also, as I forgot, some stupid dentist lost the

tip of his drill into my jawbone and it could not be retrieved. I suppose we

just have to chelate anyhow.

March 11, 2002

Marsha, Andy has sorta answered this question in miniature because I have

some surgical steel sutures that amount to almost no metal and I would guess

they have nickel in them. They hurt sometimes. I called the hospital and

doctor who put them in and they seem to be absolutely bound and determined to

NOT HELP ME find out if these contain nickel, to which I have become very

sensitive. Gold bothers me too.

I am chelating. I did ten dmps treatments IV and fared ok, although I would

have quit earlier if my doctor had been listening to me when they began to

make me sick.

Now I use ALA and what I understand is that I ought to keep an eye on my

nickel. Then I guess you'd use his book to develop some sort of an approach

to deal with nickel in your body. Neither of us can take ours out. Mine is in

my pilonidal sutures and it would probably set me back 6 months to have those

thin sutures removed. The doctor who did it was an idiot and I was not smart

enough to say " no " .

But then I was not smart enough to say no to the dentist who placed all the

fillings either.

That is probably all you will get from the group as far as similar

experience, unless Andy has something he will add. I do not think in my case

the nickel being taken out at this point would be good, for you it sounds

awful.

I am sure Andy will help if he reads your subject line. I just wanted to tell

my rather irrelevant story to you so that you have someone else to go on as

far as chelating with nickle. Also, as I forgot, some stupid dentist lost the

tip of his drill into my jawbone and it could not be retrieved. I suppose we

just have to chelate anyhow.

March 11, 2002

Marsha, Andy has sorta answered this question in miniature because I have

some surgical steel sutures that amount to almost no metal and I would guess

they have nickel in them. They hurt sometimes. I called the hospital and

doctor who put them in and they seem to be absolutely bound and determined to

NOT HELP ME find out if these contain nickel, to which I have become very

sensitive. Gold bothers me too.

I am chelating. I did ten dmps treatments IV and fared ok, although I would

have quit earlier if my doctor had been listening to me when they began to

make me sick.

Now I use ALA and what I understand is that I ought to keep an eye on my

nickel. Then I guess you'd use his book to develop some sort of an approach

to deal with nickel in your body. Neither of us can take ours out. Mine is in

my pilonidal sutures and it would probably set me back 6 months to have those

thin sutures removed. The doctor who did it was an idiot and I was not smart

enough to say " no " .

But then I was not smart enough to say no to the dentist who placed all the

fillings either.

That is probably all you will get from the group as far as similar

experience, unless Andy has something he will add. I do not think in my case

the nickel being taken out at this point would be good, for you it sounds

awful.

I am sure Andy will help if he reads your subject line. I just wanted to tell

my rather irrelevant story to you so that you have someone else to go on as

far as chelating with nickle. Also, as I forgot, some stupid dentist lost the

tip of his drill into my jawbone and it could not be retrieved. I suppose we

just have to chelate anyhow.

March 11, 2002

I can't be the only one here with surgical metal in me. I have a metal

plate in my cheek and my naturopath has asked me to find out what it's

made of before I begin chelation. I think it is stainless steel, which

means there is nickel in it (I think). My homeopathic dentist thinks it

would be good for me to have the plate removed, and I don't see how this

is possible because it was placed when my cheek was shattered in a

vehicle accident and it would be quite complicated, if not impossible,

to remove it. I also have a clip in my chin, which could be removed.

I also don't think it's possible to find out (at least through records)

what the plate is made of because I had over $200,000 of medical bills

and to have them copied so I can look through them isn't feasible

either, and the task would be an unhealthy emotional ordeal for me.

HERE'S THE QUESTION: Is it impossible to chelate with a metal plate or

pin in my body? Also, I had forgotten that the surgeon built up my cheek

with a modified implant, so I think there's a tiny amount of silicone in

there as well. Is there a way to test this plate and pin, with a

computron or electrodermal machine (I forget what the thing is called)?

I'd like to hear from Andy, if possible. Is there anyone else here who

has dealt with surgical metal?

Thanks,

Marsha

March 11, 2002