Re: New Member--10 DMPS Treatments

[Guest guest]

I bought the book by Hal Huggins and read it in the nineties. One would think

I would have looked at the book again. The doctor said she was board

certified in chelation. I thought that faster might be better. I am not in

dire straits or anything, not worse, just tired. I told her that I was tired

and she responded (all this through office staff) that was expected. I would

not do the DMPS so fast again, nor would I do so many. I think that I learned

once again that I need to " listen to my body. " On about number 6 I was really

groovin' and should have just stopped at six. Oh well, time usually takes

care of these mishaps.

On about 7 I began to not urinate very much and I recall wondering, if this

is supposed to chelate through urine, I am not chelating " that way. " So, I

began to drink more and still was not emptying bladder very much. I was so

happy that I found someone to do the DMPS that I rather overlooked the

medical side of it. I think in retrospect, that if you are not urinating

during DMPS, that might indicate a problem.

I could begin to feel fabulous in a few weeks. My main problem is currently

the dirty air that surrounds me. I live in lawn spray, lawn mower central in

the dirtiest spot int he Petroleum State and all these make me very sick.

Until I move to clean air, I don't expect anything can help me with my

neurotoxin issues. At least I did do the ten DMPS treatments and may not

become entirely senile AS early as I might have. SJ

[Guest guest]

I bought the book by Hal Huggins and read it in the nineties. One would think

I would have looked at the book again. The doctor said she was board

certified in chelation. I thought that faster might be better. I am not in

dire straits or anything, not worse, just tired. I told her that I was tired

and she responded (all this through office staff) that was expected. I would

not do the DMPS so fast again, nor would I do so many. I think that I learned

once again that I need to " listen to my body. " On about number 6 I was really

groovin' and should have just stopped at six. Oh well, time usually takes

care of these mishaps.

On about 7 I began to not urinate very much and I recall wondering, if this

is supposed to chelate through urine, I am not chelating " that way. " So, I

began to drink more and still was not emptying bladder very much. I was so

happy that I found someone to do the DMPS that I rather overlooked the

medical side of it. I think in retrospect, that if you are not urinating

during DMPS, that might indicate a problem.

I could begin to feel fabulous in a few weeks. My main problem is currently

the dirty air that surrounds me. I live in lawn spray, lawn mower central in

the dirtiest spot int he Petroleum State and all these make me very sick.

Until I move to clean air, I don't expect anything can help me with my

neurotoxin issues. At least I did do the ten DMPS treatments and may not

become entirely senile AS early as I might have. SJ

[Guest guest]

> I just completed ten 225 mg. IV DMPS Treatments. On number 6 I was

> considering buying stock in DMPS and by nine I was getting very run

down. So the doctor told me to do ten, anyway, and they forgot to

have the urine collected, so now they want me to do number eleven. I

declined. I am taking Immunopro, Chlorella and many other supplements

such as reduced glutathione and selenium. I suspended further

treatment or even a challenge, which is same as one treatment, until

I feel better. I am very tired.

>

> I took the DMPS either twice a week, once a week or three times a

week because the doctor ordered it that way.

>

> I wonder if there is any evidence that slow versus fast is better.

I would presume that slower might be better for a number of reasons,

but at the time

> I was pressing to get it done and probably should have limited it

to once a week. Does anyone know if getting DMPS three times in a

week might have " wasted " some of the DMPS? SJ

Dear SJ,

Please check out the website www.dmpsbackfire.com. I have not yet

started the heavy chelation and I am very concerned about taking

DMPS. Doctor Hal Huggins in his books IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD and

UNINFORMED CONSENT says that alternative doctors always want people

to chelate too fast and considers it very dangerous.

Marie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I just completed ten 225 mg. IV DMPS Treatments. On number 6 I was

> considering buying stock in DMPS and by nine I was getting very run

down. So the doctor told me to do ten, anyway, and they forgot to

have the urine collected, so now they want me to do number eleven. I

declined. I am taking Immunopro, Chlorella and many other supplements

such as reduced glutathione and selenium. I suspended further

treatment or even a challenge, which is same as one treatment, until

I feel better. I am very tired.

>

> I took the DMPS either twice a week, once a week or three times a

week because the doctor ordered it that way.

>

> I wonder if there is any evidence that slow versus fast is better.

I would presume that slower might be better for a number of reasons,

but at the time

> I was pressing to get it done and probably should have limited it

to once a week. Does anyone know if getting DMPS three times in a

week might have " wasted " some of the DMPS? SJ

Dear SJ,

Please check out the website www.dmpsbackfire.com. I have not yet

started the heavy chelation and I am very concerned about taking

DMPS. Doctor Hal Huggins in his books IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD and

UNINFORMED CONSENT says that alternative doctors always want people

to chelate too fast and considers it very dangerous.

Marie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The evidence is that chelation following a pharmacokinetically correct

protocol with agents that actually remove the mercury from the target

organs makes people well. The other protocols (e. g. DMPS injections)

just move the mercury around and the people get about as much better

as if they didn't do anything once they got the mercury moving.

This is discussed in great depth on the autism-mercury board and in my

book Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment which is described at

http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam

Andy

> My fillings were removed in early nineties and had CFS diag. from

Hopkins in

> 95. I developed MCS in 1986 following being inadvertantly sprayed by

> ChemLawn. I just completed ten 225 mg. IV DMPS Treatments. On number

6 I was

> considering buying stock in DMPS and by nine I was getting very run

down. So

> the doctor told me to do ten, anyway, and they forgot to have the

urine

> collected, so now they want me to do number eleven. I declined. I am

taking

> Immunopro, Chlorella and many other supplements such as reduced

glutathione

> and selenium. I suspended further treatment or even a challenge,

which is

> same as one treatment, until I feel better. I am very tired.

>

> I took the DMPS either twice a week, once a week or three times a

week

> because the doctor ordered it that way.

>

> I wonder if there is any evidence that slow versus fast is better. I

would

> presume that slower might be better for a number of reasons, but at

the time

> I was pressing to get it done and probably should have limited it to

once a

> week. Does anyone know if getting DMPS three times in a week might

have

> " wasted " some of the DMPS? SJ

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message

[Guest guest]

The evidence is that chelation following a pharmacokinetically correct

protocol with agents that actually remove the mercury from the target

organs makes people well. The other protocols (e. g. DMPS injections)

just move the mercury around and the people get about as much better

as if they didn't do anything once they got the mercury moving.

This is discussed in great depth on the autism-mercury board and in my

book Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment which is described at

http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam

Andy

> My fillings were removed in early nineties and had CFS diag. from

Hopkins in

> 95. I developed MCS in 1986 following being inadvertantly sprayed by

> ChemLawn. I just completed ten 225 mg. IV DMPS Treatments. On number

6 I was

> considering buying stock in DMPS and by nine I was getting very run

down. So

> the doctor told me to do ten, anyway, and they forgot to have the

urine

> collected, so now they want me to do number eleven. I declined. I am

taking

> Immunopro, Chlorella and many other supplements such as reduced

glutathione

> and selenium. I suspended further treatment or even a challenge,

which is

> same as one treatment, until I feel better. I am very tired.

>

> I took the DMPS either twice a week, once a week or three times a

week

> because the doctor ordered it that way.

>

> I wonder if there is any evidence that slow versus fast is better. I

would

> presume that slower might be better for a number of reasons, but at

the time

> I was pressing to get it done and probably should have limited it to

once a

> week. Does anyone know if getting DMPS three times in a week might

have

> " wasted " some of the DMPS? SJ

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/01 3:14:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,

AndyCutler@... writes:

> http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam

>

>

Dear Andy, I looked at the site and I have some alpha lipoic acid that I have

been told to take and told not to take. I am taking Immunocal, chlorella, b12

shots on and off, quercetin, gancyclovir, biaxin (last two for viral problems

due to finding SV40 in serum from my polio vaccine), A, D, E,

supplements, Co-Q10, 5 HTP, MSM, Now's Tri Amino with L-Arginine,

L-Ornithine, L-Lysine, Now's Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Vitamin C, Max EPA Fish Oil,

Omega 3 fish oil, Flax oil, Asparagus Extract, Vitamin C, (IV drip recently

following ten DMPS treatments, of glutathione, trace minerals, B12, B6, C)

and malic acid and bromase. I take Lovenox rather than heparin because the

heparin is preserved. I must have alcohol dehydrogenase problems because all

alcohol (both as preservative and as a drink) make me sick and always have.

I have been told by Dr. Clement Furlong at U. Washington that I have low

PON-1, (my attorney in case vs Dow sent my blood to Clem) which sets me up

for both organophosphate injury and heart disease. I am one basket case,

living mostly on the couch, and doing what I am able to do. I have sciatic

nerve problems bone spur problems and a botched surgery for a pilonidal cyst

in which the doctor left metal sutures (stainless steel) in that hurt so

badly that I cannot ever sit or lie down comfortably. I was diagnosed with

neurally mediated hypotension at Hopkins in 95 and MCS following ChemLawn

spraying me in 1986. I am 49. I cannot even begin to imagine getting to 60.

I have a son at Princeton University, my husband's alma mater. I was once

most intelligent and creative. I still possess these characteristics, but I

often cannot remember the beginning of the last sentence I read. I begin

tasks and can't complete them. I have been absolutely unable to work for the

past 15 years, mostly caring for my children. I engage in some of the

behaviors you mention at your site; however, I am extremely odor sensitive,

with symptoms upon all solvent exposures.

I am disautonomic. Sweating stopped years ago, and returned with a protocol

that began with Biaxin. I had horrible bowel problems. I had spent ten days

at Dr. Rea's clinic following pesticide exposures. Hypotensive events follow

hydrocarbon exposures, and this began following pesticide exposures.

I had a tooth filled with mercury during pregnancy. That child is chemically

sensitive, but an honor student and attends an Ivy League college. He is odor

sensitive and has bowel dysfunction.

I would say that two leading Gulf War Researchers, two pesticide researchers,

a cancer specialist (I don't have cancer--he is however helping) and several

doctors have really tried to help me and I am only minimally functional. I

also tried the Nash Petrovic protocol, which I'd do again.

I remember when I got sick. I had ten fillings placed, worked as an

artist/photographer and my darkroom was sprayed with pesticides. My heart

bothered me, I lost weight and I felt as though there were tight band around

my knees from front to back, (this at night). I sought care and was told I

had rheumatic fever and put on antibiotics and later told that I had nothing

wrong that could be found. I developed arthritis from this episode, that

became apparent on X-ray two years following. I was 19 years old.

I improved, finished college, got married after working as a systems analyst

for EDS and then had all the fillings redone, while under nitrous oxide,

which allows the BBB to breach and with it the mercury vapor. See research

study Ben , Israel, regarding Nitrous Oxide and West Nile Virus on

PubMed.

I am going to start taking Alpha Lipoic Acid once every four hours round the

clock. I have Bluebonnet 100 mg. supplements. If there is anything else I

should do, I would like advice. Thanks, Jannarone

[Guest guest]

DMPS is supposed to attach to mercury, but it does chelate other metals. For

example, it probably has an affinity for iron, which in most of our cases

might actually help with our viral problems, because viruses like iron-rich

environments, especially ones with thick sluggish blood, anerobic style, like

mine was.

EDTA is supposed to chelate out primarily lead, but it also chelates other

metals. This is what I have read at the doctor's office. I am certainly no

authority on either of these; however, EDTA made me sick the first try. DMPS

made me feel better until I hit about number 6 or 7.

I believe that one member of the list is suggesting alpha lipoic acid. This

might be safer. I don't have further information on this.

I do know that my DMPS chelation followed years of antioxidant use and that I

had already done the oral Hal Huggins protocol in the early nineties. I did

that when I had my fillings redone. You begin with supplements and take them

throughout the treatment. I did not get worse, nor did I get better. However,

I was better then, than I am now, following recent DMPS chelation therapy.

Only time will tell. Sometimes months may pass and I can feel better.

I fear that my recent DmPS only moved the mercury around, probably to

kidneys. sJ

[Guest guest]

I did have an IV of trace minerals and am taking trace minerals. I don't want

to put too much back in because I believe that some of our bulk multiple

vitamins contain substances that might not be good, so I am eating organic

food, hoping to regain trace minerals through nutrition. sj

[Guest guest]

I am not sure how DMPS works. Does it attach to all metals or just

mercury? Because if it attaches to all metals you may have depleted

your supply of trace elements during the treatments. Maybe someone else

can help me out here.