Re: Confused about Diabetes, Low Sugar, and High Sugar

[Guest guest]

Jo, it is smart to get yourself a meter. Everyone who has problems

with their sugar should own one. When your sugar is low you do not

need to take any insulin. You need a little burst of sugar or food to

raise your numbers upward to the safe range to at least 70. They told

me 140 is the maxium you should go and then you need insulin to lower

it. Walking or exercise will also drop it. I do not understand why if

you are having problems with your sugar they want to do a cat scan

when it is done with a blood test. I hope this helps.

Debi~~*~~

> I'm very confused here. I called my doctors office again, and they

> really want me to get a CT Scan on my pelvis and abdomen, only

> because I was having some nausea, in the past few months. I'm

going

> through with this, even though I'm hopefully will be getting health

> insurance in the next month, but they won't do anything until I

have

> these scans done.

>

> Anyway, I mentioned my concern over how I felt on Saturday with the

> low sugar, and the nurse told me that I could see a nutritionist,

to

> eat more protein (which is what I'm doing anyway, with the Atkin's

> diet), and to drink more, (which I drink a lot of water and health

> drinks), and that there was nothing that could be done for the low

> sugar.

>

> Well, I just dropped the 14 pounds. If I eat like she suggests,

> wouldn't I just gain them back? She also said that I could go and

> get a meter and test when I felt like that, to see what the numbers

> are, and I told her I will. Other than that, she said that nothing

> could be done.

>

> My question is, with low sugar, you are either not making enough,

not

> making any at all, or not using it correctly. I'm right with that,

> right? And in that case, you would need insulin? With high sugar,

> you are making to much, from what I understand, and I'm not sure

how

> you would treat that. This is what my room mate told me, who works

> in a hospital.

>

> I did schedule the CT scans, but am I doing the right thing by

> considering going to see an endocrinologist behind my doctor's

back?

> Considering, I don't have insurance, at the moment, I don't need

the

> referral, thank god. This is what the secratary at the diagnostic

> center suggested. Then maybe I wouldn't have to come in for the CT

> Scans.

>

> I will be making some calls tomorrow, but if I'm wrong with my

> thinking, if someone could explain it to me, I would really

> appreciate it. But I am picking up a meter tomorrow, and starting

> that testing on my own. Thanks.

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

It helps a little bit. They want to do a ct scan, because I have

been having some nausea, and even some gagging, which is another sign

of some type of sugar problem. I'm definitely picking one up

tomorrow then.

Jo

> > I'm very confused here. I called my doctors office again, and

they

> > really want me to get a CT Scan on my pelvis and abdomen, only

> > because I was having some nausea, in the past few months. I'm

> going

> > through with this, even though I'm hopefully will be getting

health

> > insurance in the next month, but they won't do anything until I

> have

> > these scans done.

> >

> > Anyway, I mentioned my concern over how I felt on Saturday with

the

> > low sugar, and the nurse told me that I could see a nutritionist,

> to

> > eat more protein (which is what I'm doing anyway, with the

Atkin's

> > diet), and to drink more, (which I drink a lot of water and

health

> > drinks), and that there was nothing that could be done for the

low

> > sugar.

> >

> > Well, I just dropped the 14 pounds. If I eat like she suggests,

> > wouldn't I just gain them back? She also said that I could go

and

> > get a meter and test when I felt like that, to see what the

numbers

> > are, and I told her I will. Other than that, she said that

nothing

> > could be done.

> >

> > My question is, with low sugar, you are either not making enough,

> not

> > making any at all, or not using it correctly. I'm right with

that,

> > right? And in that case, you would need insulin? With high

sugar,

> > you are making to much, from what I understand, and I'm not sure

> how

> > you would treat that. This is what my room mate told me, who

works

> > in a hospital.

> >

> > I did schedule the CT scans, but am I doing the right thing by

> > considering going to see an endocrinologist behind my doctor's

> back?

> > Considering, I don't have insurance, at the moment, I don't need

> the

> > referral, thank god. This is what the secratary at the

diagnostic

> > center suggested. Then maybe I wouldn't have to come in for the

CT

> > Scans.

> >

> > I will be making some calls tomorrow, but if I'm wrong with my

> > thinking, if someone could explain it to me, I would really

> > appreciate it. But I am picking up a meter tomorrow, and

starting

> > that testing on my own. Thanks.

> >

> > Jo

[Guest guest]

Jo, I do not want to scare you but that is also one of the first

signs that I noticed right before I came down with pancreatitis. Are

you having pain near your ribs and in your back? I pray not.

Debi~~*~~

> It helps a little bit. They want to do a ct scan, because I have

> been having some nausea, and even some gagging, which is another

sign

> of some type of sugar problem. I'm definitely picking one up

> tomorrow then.

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

There's no pain at all. Just that nausea, which has subsided. No

pain. A lot of shakes, dizziness, tiredness, constantly hungry. I'm

like, non-stop eating. No pain whatsoever.

> > It helps a little bit. They want to do a ct scan, because I have

> > been having some nausea, and even some gagging, which is another

> sign

> > of some type of sugar problem. I'm definitely picking one up

> > tomorrow then.

> >

> > Jo

[Guest guest]

Jo wrote:

>My question is, with low sugar, you are either not making enough, not

>making any at all, or not using it correctly. I'm right with that,

>right? And in that case, you would need insulin? With high sugar,

>you are making to much, from what I understand, and I'm not sure how

>you would treat that. This is what my room mate told me, who works

>in a hospital.

I don't understand most of your references in this message so I'll just

address the above info which is the reverse of correct.

With HIGH BG (blood glucose aka " sugar " ) you are either not making enough

insulin or not using it correctly and would thus need, through some means,

additional insulin (or less carbs, etc.) in your system. With LOW sugar,

there is, from whatever source, too much insulin for the food in the system

(for a variety of potential reasons).

The treatment for High BG depends on whether you are a T1 or T2, whether

you are on injected insulin and/or oral meds, D& E only, etc. The treatment

for Low BG is to raise the BG level via eating carbs or concentrated sugar,

depending upon " how low " and whether you are dealing with an excess of

natural or injected insulin.

Sandy

T1 - 1979

[Guest guest]

That actually helps Sandy. Thanks......considering my doctor is

basically running around the bush. I don't know if you guys know

about the nausea that I've been having, but it barely bothers me

now. Anyway, my doctor wants me to get a CT Scan on my pelvis and

abdomen. So I would have to drink two glasses of white stuff, that I

really don't want to drink, because I KNOW I'll be bringing it up.

So I called them, and scheduled the appointment, and they recommended

calling an endocrinologist. Well, I did, and I was referred to a

Diabetes Center. So I now have an appointment with them. I told

them the whole story, even how I felt this past weekend, and how I'm

constantly hungry, and I'll be seeing a physician there. If they

happen to find anything, then I may not have to have these CT Scans

done.

I'm doing this behind my doctor's back, at the moment, because I hate

getting the run around. I'm also picking up a meter today, so I can

keep track on my levels. I just don't know anymore. I'm really

beginning not to trust to many doctors. Considering my first one

told me it was low, and my doctor now thought that I meant high. All

I know is what I was told by her, and my symptoms. Hopefully, I'll

find out something on the 29th.

Jo

> I don't understand most of your references in this message so I'll

just

> address the above info which is the reverse of correct.

>

> With HIGH BG (blood glucose aka " sugar " ) you are either not making

enough

> insulin or not using it correctly and would thus need, through some

means,

> additional insulin (or less carbs, etc.) in your system. With LOW

sugar,

> there is, from whatever source, too much insulin for the food in

the system

> (for a variety of potential reasons).

>

> The treatment for High BG depends on whether you are a T1 or T2,

whether

> you are on injected insulin and/or oral meds, D& E only, etc. The

treatment

> for Low BG is to raise the BG level via eating carbs or

concentrated sugar,

> depending upon " how low " and whether you are dealing with an

excess of

> natural or injected insulin.

>

> Sandy

> T1 - 1979

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It just gets so frustrating. The $75 isn't even bad for a meter or

test strips. I'm doing my research and making the comparisons. What

I hate is that I make to much to qualify for government help, but not

enough for individual insurance. I work on the internet, and I plan

on going back to school, and just trying to get this under control

before that starts.

I thought the nausea was part of it! I even had the rapid heart beat

as well, and lately, with being constantly hungry, even though I eat

6 meals a day, (thankfully they are smaller), but I just don't

understand why doctors don't listen? I agree with you. We know our

bodies more then they do. LOL Thanks for the advice.

Jo

>

> Hey, Jo... I know what you mean about getting the run around from

your doc,

> that is why I love mine so much, we actually both work on keeping me

> healthy.. I am a type 2 dx'd 7/19/02 and know that I have been this

way for

> much much longer, just only then got around to doing something

about it... I

> would get the hypo's (lows) all the time and all the symptoms that

goes

> along with it, the shakes, nausea, sweating, rapid heart, feeling

faint,

> etc...

>

> You are going to find a mess of meters out there...and probably

have a hard

> time deciding which one, I have used the One Touch Ultra, it is a

good meter

> but very expensive, and then I used a Quiktec meter from

www.diabetesnet.com

> and it was comparable to the One Touch and not expensive at all

really,

> 45.00 including shipping will bring you a meter and 100 test

strips. I now

> have a accu-check compact, finally my insurance really covers my

testing

> supplies, I only pay 25.00 for 100 strips..before I would have to

put out

> the cost of the supplies and then they would reimburse me...if they

ever

> quit loosing the paperwork...lol.. without insurance you are

looking at

> about 75.00 for the meter kit and 52.00 per 51 strips, one thing

that I love

> about the accu-check is I don't have to mess with the strips trying

to get

> them into the machine, they come in a barrel, and I just put that

in the

> machine and for the next 17 tests, the machine spits them out as I

need

> them..

>

> Good Luck, and don't feel bad about doing things on your own, as my

Doctor

> and I discussed this morning, I am the one that has to live in this

body

> 24/7, I know what it is doing, and he don't....lol...at least won't

know if

> he don't listen to me.. I pay good money for my insurance, 290.00

per month

> to keep me and hubby covered and then pay 25.00 co-pay everytime I

walk

> through his door, I want and demand a Doctor that will work with me

rather

> than against me..

>

> Carmen

[Guest guest]

> My question is, with low sugar, you are either not making enough, not

> making any at all, or not using it correctly.  I'm right with that,

> right?  And in that case, you would need insulin?  With high sugar,

> you are making to much, from what I understand, and I'm not sure how

> you would treat that.  This is what my room mate told me, who works

> in a hospital.

>

>

Low blood sugar you have too much insulin in your body and have " used up " to

much glucose, with high blood sugar there is too little insulin and too much

blood sugar in the body. Here this might help

Type 2 Diabetes: Conditions, Treatments, Resources - American Diabetes

Association

[Guest guest]

Well, I made an appointment with my local Diabetes Center. I've also

been testing and my numbers seem to fall in the range, but I'm still

experiencing symptoms. I've also got a cold on top of it, and I

don't know if that is affecting things.

Maybe someone can explain this to me. On the 24th and 25th, my

readings " seem " normal. I was alright with the readings in the 90s,

but when I hit 111, I was shaking. I was shaky on both days, but the

readings were in normal range. Also, when the sugar drops, it drops

fast. I keep eating stuff, but I'm afriad that I'm going to put back

the weight I lost.

Jo

>

> In a message dated 7/23/04 10:22:32 AM, Joeslep@h... writes:

>

>

> > I'm doing this behind my doctor's back, at the moment, because I

hate

> > getting the run around.  I'm also picking up a meter today, so I

can

> > keep track on my levels.  I just don't know anymore.  I'm really

> > beginning not to trust to many doctors.  Considering my first one

> > told me it was low, and my doctor now thought that I meant high. 

All

> > I know is what I was told by her, and my symptoms.  Hopefully,

I'll

> > find out something on the 29th.

> >

>

> Congrats to you for getting a meter, be sure to keep a log of your

sugars to

> show your doctors. Finding help for yourself is not realy doing

stuff 'behind

> your doctors back " from personal experience of myself and my

parents, if you

> dont think a doctor is doing something right, or taking you

seriously, please

> get a second opinion. For instance my dad had a lump in his side,

he went to 2

> doctors who shrugged him off, the third did a CT scan and it was a

13 cm liver

> tumor!! Never be afraid to get more education about your own

health! I hope

> you find something out soon!

>

>

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