Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 GREETINGS -- The following are some questions and answers about recurrent yeast infections in diabetic women. wambo1941 Written by: Gloria Bachmann, MD - University of Medicine & Dentistry of NJ ph Apuzzio, MD - University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey Gerald Bernstein, MD - Beth Israel Medical Center, NY Published on: 2002-06-18 Nearly three of every four women will have a yeast infection in their lifetimes, and up to 45 percent of women will have two or more. Women tend to be more susceptible to vaginal yeast infections when their bodies are under stress from lack of sleep, poor diet, pregnancy, or antibiotic use. And women with immune-suppressing diseases like diabetes and HIV are at a significantly higher risk of getting yeast infections. Over nine million American women, or nearly nine percent of all adult women in the U.S., have diabetes, according to the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases. For this population, understanding the risk of yeast infections, and knowing how to prevent or treat them, becomes essential. Below, three experts in the area of vaginal health and diabetes, discuss why women with diabetes are at increased risk, and how they can protect themselves from recurrent yeast infections. First, why does diabetes increase the risk for developing yeast infections? GERALD BERNSTEIN, MD: It's important to understand what the elevated blood glucose in people with diabetes actually does to the body. When the blood sugar increases, two things happen. One, all the body secretions will have an increased amount of glucose. Two, all of the tissues of the body stop functioning normally, and therefore the normal defenses that the body has against intrusion by outside substances -- such as yeast -- will be abnormal. Is the risk different between patients who have Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes? And if so, how? GERALD BERNSTEIN, MD: No, it's not different. An elevated blood sugar acts like a poison, and it will poison both Type 1 and Type 2 patients if the glucose is not controlled. Obviously, it's important for any diabetic to control blood sugar. But what are the target blood sugars for women that will lower their risk of developing a yeast infection? GERALD BERNSTEIN, MD: We make a diagnosis of diabetes when a person's blood sugar is 126mg/dL or above. Our goals are to have a patient's morning and before-meal blood sugar at around 100-110 mg/dL and then, after a meal, no more than 140 mg/dL. Now that's what the normal level is. When we let the glucose levels rise past these numbers, people develop problems. What role does diet play in the development of yeast infections in women with diabetes? GERALD BERNSTEIN, MD: Diet can be used as a tool to control glucose levels, just like medications and insulin. We control the amount of glucose that comes into the body through our diet. By controlling the blood sugar through diet, we control the blood sugar in the vaginal secretions and the impact of that glucose on the function of different tissues. If a woman with diabetes thinks that she has a yeast infection, what should she do? JOSEPH APUZZIO, MD: She should visit her doctor to make a diagnosis. The diagnosis is really crucial. And there are certain tests that she should make sure her doctor performs. Is that correct? JOSEPH APUZZIO, MD: Yes. In order to make a diagnosis, one should do a slide test of vaginal secretions under the microscope, to see if it is a yeast organism causing the infection. Usually that will suffice. Sometimes one also has to culture the vaginal secretions as well, but that's in a small number of patients. GLORIA BACHMANN, MD: It is really important for women to visit the doctor before they douche or before they start treatment for the first infection, so that we can see exactly what the vaginal health looks like and make the appropriate diagnosis. What are the treatment options for a diabetic woman with a yeast infection? GLORIA BACHMANN, MD: A diabetic woman can use all the same treatments that a woman who does not have diabetes can use. She can use an oral or vaginal treatment, depending on her preference. How effective are the different options? JOSEPH APUZZIO, MD: The success rates are probably on the order of 85- 90% success, for both pills and creams. Do yeast infections in women with diabetes take longer to treat in some cases? JOSEPH APUZZIO, MD: There are one-day therapies, three-day therapies, seven-day or fourteen-day therapies, and usually, patients who are diabetic need the longer therapy, not the shorter. There are a lot of yeast infection treatment products sold over-the- counter. Is it advisable, especially for women with diabetes, to diagnose and treat themselves this way? GLORIA BACHMANN, MD: It's advisable once the woman knows what she's dealing with. If she has been diagnosed by her physician before, knows the symptoms, and the physician has looked at the vaginal secretions and confirmed -- under the microscope -- that indeed she has a yeast infection, then she can treat recurrent ones. When she understands what a yeast infection is, and what it feels like, she can treat herself. Any additional thoughts that you'd like to add? GLORIA BACHMANN, MD: I think it's important that women understand how essential it is to complete the therapy. Many women will come in and say to me, " You know what? I finished sooner than I should according to the package, because I felt better. " It's important not to stop midway. Also, if a woman still feels that she has symptoms after completing therapy, then she should go back to her doctor and go through a full pelvic examination. The doctor should look at the secretions under the microscope to be sure that the infection has been resolved with the medication. So bottom line, start with a doctor and make sure that your doctor knows -- when you've completed treatment -- that the infection is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Thanks Wambo I never knew this was diabetes related. My doctor told me to wear cotton panties and told me I was wiping wrong and everything but the diabetes was the problem. I was at the point of giving up sex. I am learning a lot here. Beth > GREETINGS -- > The following are some questions and answers about recurrent yeast > infections in diabetic women. > wambo1941 Women > tend to be more susceptible to vaginal yeast infections when their > bodies are under stress from lack of sleep, poor diet, pregnancy, or > antibiotic use. And women with immune-suppressing diseases like > diabetes and HIV are at a significantly higher risk of getting yeast > infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Thanks Wambo I never knew this was diabetes related. My doctor told me to wear cotton panties and told me I was wiping wrong and everything but the diabetes was the problem. I was at the point of giving up sex. I am learning a lot here. Beth > GREETINGS -- > The following are some questions and answers about recurrent yeast > infections in diabetic women. > wambo1941 Women > tend to be more susceptible to vaginal yeast infections when their > bodies are under stress from lack of sleep, poor diet, pregnancy, or > antibiotic use. And women with immune-suppressing diseases like > diabetes and HIV are at a significantly higher risk of getting yeast > infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Beth, I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of intercourse. Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Beverly, I would rather have sperm inside me that that liquid on condoms. It does have some chemical on it doesn't it. My panties stay wet in the crotch after sex, but I do need this as bad as he does. Beth > Beth, > I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of intercourse. > > Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Ditto. Nothing like the real thing. --- luvgum2000@... luvgum2000@...> wrote: > Beverly, I would rather have sperm inside me that that liquid on > condoms. It does have some chemical on it doesn't it. My panties stay > wet in the crotch after sex, but I do need this as bad as he does. > Beth > > > > > Beth, > > I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference > but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made > a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have > a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse > every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. > It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used > a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation > but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other > and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of > intercourse. > > > > Beverly > > ===== Gloria Lysa gloria9055@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Ugh? [alldiabeticinternational] Re: Yeast Infections and Diabetes Beverly, I would rather have sperm inside me that that liquid on condoms. It does have some chemical on it doesn't it. My panties stay wet in the crotch after sex, but I do need this as bad as he does. Beth > Beth, > I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of intercourse. > > Beverly pancreatitis info http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ThePancreatitisPlace/ diabetic recipes http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetic_recipes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Double Ditto on the sperm. That foam spermicide will cause an infection also and you will leak for days and days. I hate the feel of condoms. Hope this helps you with the yeast infections. Faith > > > Beth, > > > I know from experience that cotton panties make a > big difference > > but I've also got to say that not having sexual > intercourse has made > > a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years > old and I did have > > a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to > have intercourse > > every time we had sex and now his back has help slow > him down a bit. > > It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn > me and if we used > > a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a > no win situation > > but we are learning many other ways to express out > love to each other > > and I feel we are closer because of not having the > pressure of > > intercourse. > > > > > > Beverly > > > > > > > ===== > Gloria Lysa gloria9055@y... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Wiping wrong? --- luvgum2000@... luvgum2000@...> wrote: > Thanks Wambo > I never knew this was diabetes related. My doctor told me to wear > cotton panties and told me I was wiping wrong and everything but the > diabetes was the problem. I was at the point of giving up sex. I am > learning a lot here. > Beth > > > > > > GREETINGS -- > > The following are some questions and answers about recurrent yeast > > infections in diabetic women. > > wambo1941 > Women > > tend to be more susceptible to vaginal yeast infections when their > > bodies are under stress from lack of sleep, poor diet, pregnancy, > or > > antibiotic use. And women with immune-suppressing diseases like > > diabetes and HIV are at a significantly higher risk of getting > yeast > > infections. > > ===== Gloria Lysa gloria9055@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 In a message dated 8/15/2004 8:44:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, luvgum2000@... writes: Will diabetes cause me trouble with child birth? Hi Beth, I just had a son 10 months ago and can offer any advice you may need along the way based on my experiences. My son is perfectly healthy. I had great doctors and followed their instructions very strictly. There were many aspects of my second pregnancy that were much better and easier than my first (without diabetes). I ate better and excersised, I was on the treadmill the morning I went into labor. My labor was much easier and I think it was because I was in much better shape. Just keep your BG down. I was told that you need to have it under tight control before you even get pregnant and keep it there. The first two weeks of pregnancy are meant to be crucial and if your BG is high it can cause serious complications in the fetus (major organ problems etc) Having said that mine were very high the first two weeks because I did not know I was diabetic. I found out about the diabetes and the pregnancy on the same day and my son didn't suffer any complications. But you don't need the stress and worry I went through so keep it under control. You'll enjoy your pregnancy so much more if you don't have to worry about not having your BG down at a critical stage. Good luck with that and keep us posted. All the Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 I do not use foam chemicals. They make me sore to the point I can't walk. They are nasty to. we are wanting to have a baby soon and I can't take the pill right now. Will diabetes cause me trouble with child birth? Beth > > > > Beth, > > > > I know from experience that cotton panties make a > > big difference > > > but I've also got to say that not having sexual > > intercourse has made > > > a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years > > old and I did have > > > a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to > > have intercourse > > > every time we had sex and now his back has help slow > > him down a bit. > > > It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn > > me and if we used > > > a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a > > no win situation > > > but we are learning many other ways to express out > > love to each other > > > and I feel we are closer because of not having the > > pressure of > > > intercourse. > > > > > > > > Beverly > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Gloria Lysa gloria9055@y... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hi to all, I am new here. My name is and I have known that I should have done something about my diabetes years ago and just didn't want to admit I had it, so I ignored it. I also belong to your sister group, TPP, because my 10 year old daughter has pancreatitis. I am now trying to lose weight and take better care of myself so I can be there for my children and also not be a burden in later years because I didn't take care of myself. At this time, I am taking Avanamet, two tablets (1-500MG) every morning and one tablet every evening. Lately I haven't been taking my blood sugar levels (I know, I am bad!), but awhile back when I did, I went from 267 to 121. My husband and I went on a great eating program and he lost 60lbs and I had lost 49lbs, but since my daughter has been in the hospital three times this year for a week each time, I let food back in as my friend to cope with what was going on. Now she is doing very well and I am bound and determined to stay with the program and lost the weight. The other thing I would like to mention was from a text by Beverly. In the early years of my marriage, I too suffered a lot from yeast infections. The doctor I had at the time told me that my husband maybe be reinfecting me. So we both had some meds to take, and except for pregnancies and some out bursts due to antibotics (I now take acidophilus everyday ) I have never had anymore problems with that. Hope that helps some. I looking forward to knowing more of you in the future. Blessings, Denton, TX > Beth, > I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of intercourse. > > Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hi and welcome to the group. You have take the first steps in taking care of yourself now. The worry and stress of taking care of a illness of your daughter can be effecting your blood sugars. I have heard that pancreatitis is a very serious problem. When the pancreas is damaged diabetes will follow along in its path. Diabetes also runs in family histories. Keep a close eye on your daughter for signs of this. I am glad you are getting your weight under control, this will help control your diabetes. Being away from home so much will limit your on effort with your diet. I hope your family life returns to normal soon. Do you teach your daughter at home? I noticed your screen name refers to home school. Has the pancreatitis she has caused her not to be able to attend regular school? Much luck with both the diabetes and pancreatitis. Candi > > Beth, > > I know from experience that cotton panties make a big difference > but I've also got to say that not having sexual intercourse has made > a big difference for me. Of course, I'm 50 years old and I did have > a time convincing my husband that we didn't have to have intercourse > every time we had sex and now his back has help slow him down a bit. > It was hard because his fluids would itch and burn me and if we used > a condom the lube on them would eat me up. It was a no win situation > but we are learning many other ways to express out love to each other > and I feel we are closer because of not having the pressure of > intercourse. > > > > Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hi Candy, Thank you for your warm welcome. As for watching my daughter, I do and very closely. I am aware of what could happen as we have been dealing with this pancreatitis for four years. I also have a cousin that died due to complications from diabetes. His troubles were very severe. I believe with new information over the years, my daughter and myself are better informed. As for homeschooling, I have homeschooled all my children. My oldest went to public high school and will graduate May 2005. Looking back now, I am so glad that I did homeschool. My son, was adopted at the age of five, but we had him since he was a year. He was a fail to thrive baby, being only 12lbs wearing 12 month clothing when we got him at a year. We were told he wouldn't make it, just do your best. We did send him to school when the time came but he was still just too emotionally young and we took him out and taught him at home. I got pregnant five year later and then again twenty-two months later. I started the girls at homeschooling and now since has been in the hospital eight times, a week at a time (twice for two weeks) over the last four years, I am sure there would have been problems for her at public school. All three of my children are very well adjusted, have great self-esteem and do very well in their schoolwork. I believe that schooling them at home gave them the oppportunity to develop their strong personalities without anyone putting them down for their challenges. They didn't even know that there were any challenges since my husband and I worked on their strengths. Sorry, I yak too much, but thanks for asking! ---Oh yeah, about my life getting back to normal. I don't think I would know if my life was normal if it hit me in the face!!! Blessings, Denton, TX. In alldiabeticinternational , " herekitty_kit " wrote: > Hi and welcome to the group. You have take the first steps > in taking care of yourself now. The worry and stress of taking care > of a illness of your daughter can be effecting your blood sugars. I > have heard that pancreatitis is a very serious problem. When the > pancreas is damaged diabetes will follow along in its path. Diabetes > also runs in family histories. Keep a close eye on your daughter for > signs of this. I am glad you are getting your weight under control, > this will help control your diabetes. Being away from home so much > will limit your on effort with your diet. I hope your family life > returns to normal soon. Do you teach your daughter at home? I noticed > your screen name refers to home school. Has the pancreatitis she has > caused her not to be able to attend regular school? Much luck with > both the diabetes and pancreatitis. > Candi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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