Re: ::sniff:: No response to my post

[Guest guest]

I don't have any tips for you, . I'm counting calories. I try to stay

between 1500 and 1600 calories. I am a new member of this group and hope to

get to know you better soon. Lota

[Guest guest]

GINA, Hello I am new too I have type 2 and take three meds at night

I also need diet tips

I think a lot of people are away from there computer because of the long

weekend

glad you are here

Patsy OSCP http://www.picturetrail.com/patsysprettys

[Guest guest]

Counting calories is really working for me, . A nurse who specializes in

diabetes told me that 1500 calories is about right because if you eat any

less you won't stick to it. My highest weight was 287. I weigh 238. I feel so

much better since I have lost weight. I want to weigh 150 and I will get

there someday. May God bless you. Lota

[Guest guest]

I am not on the South Beach Diet. You really need to discuss this diet with

your doctor and dietician. When I went on the pump (11/16/1999) my weight

on MDI had crept to 220#. After going on the pump and NOT chasing lows with

food etc I have dropped to 190/195#. I found that common sense and getting

enough exercise has allowed me to keep my weight constant now. As a diabetic

our systems handle dieting in a manner different then non-diabetics. In my

case tried the Adkins diet and had real problems with BGL's all over the

board, felt rotten, bloated, and gained 5# in one week. Went back to a

common sense approach and made sure not to bring junk food into the house

now back to 190/195#. What works for me may not work for you. YMMV I have

found that low fat is not low carb, you might need to re-visit carb counting

and portions ( I have to do this routinely) Oh yes become a lable fanatic

and find out how things reast for your body. Based on portions and lables

there are some things (any rice or potatos for starters) I have to raise the

carb count to cover.

Vern Catron

www.history-buff.org http://www.history-buff.org/>

Meddle ye not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good

with ketchup (or HP).

[alldiabeticinternational] ::sniff:: No response to my post

Hello.

I am new to the board and posted about a week ago, but no one responded. I

think it got lost in the shuffle.

My name is and I am a type 1 diabetic since 1979 (I am now 35). I use

an insulin pump and am under pretty good control (last Hba1c was 6.2).

I am looking into starting the South Beach diet as my weight has gone up

slowly and steadily, and I am experiencing some insulin resistence. I was

wondering if anyone had any tips, thoughts, comments etc. for me.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/1/2004 1:54:46 PM Central Standard Time,

ellen.shipley@... writes:

Thanks for your encouragement, Ellen. I think you're right that any way you

can cut the calories down works. I'm so glad you posted to and me. I

was out of control for about 6 weeks. It was because I was depressed and

feeling bad with sinus and allergies. I've got my head on straight now and I

feel

better. I'm back eating right and exercising. May God bless you Ellen. Lota

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am not the only one in my family

> with this problem.

That doesn't mean that it is

hereditary, ! It is more likely

that you are all eating the same

stuff in the same quantities!

> I don't tend to eat a lot of junk

> food.

Try eating no junk food at all, none,

zilch! Better still, don't buy any.

Then you can't eat it - unless somebody

is feeding you with it.

> What I feel I need right now is a

> structure without TOO much work.

Then you are not going to get very far

in the long-term, . The whole

thing is a pain in the rearend. I have

found that if it doesn't take much out

of you then you are probably not doing

it right.

> I've done the lowfat thing, ...

That is nonsense anyway and without any

medical evidence that it does any good.

> ... and I loathe the idea of keeping

> a food diary.

That works if you do it conscientiously

and weigh your food and stop eating

when you have reached approximately

your calories for the day.

> Whenever I've gone to a nutritionist,

> they go over the same things I already

> know, with no new solutions.

There ARE no new solutions, ,

nothing has changed. We are still being

made the same way! Nobody wants to

believe that there is no easy way

to lose weight and that they cannot

BUY weight loss, they have to sweat

it out. You can almost say about any

weight loss method: If it costs money,

it is a scam!

You just need to eat about 200-300

kcal/day less on average than you have

been eating up to now and you will lose

weight slowly. The general experience

is that you can lose about 5% of your

peak weight before your body adapts to

the reduced energy input.

No normal person can think in averages

and not even nutritionists can estimate

200-300 kcal/day difference accurately

so the food diary and weighing your

food and working out the calories is

the only reasonable way to do it. It

is really a pain and very tedious and

takes up time that you may not have but

it does work and it is up to you to

decide which is more important to you:

saving the time or losing the weight.

> I just wanted to try a different

> approach to what I've done in the

> past as the 'usual' doesn't seem to

> be working.

I read somewhere that 95% of all over-

weights trying to lose weight long-term

fail. Long-term is 4-5 years. If your

weight is at least 5% less after 4-5

years than it was at your last maximum

then you have been successful.

>I am at an all-time weight high for me

and it is really annoying me.<

That is the ideal time to have another

go. My situation sounds almost the same

as yours. And I woke up on May 22nd to the

fact that I have put on weight again

and that some of it has to go. I hope to

lose 5% or about 4.6 kg (10 lbs) by the

end of July and then keep it off for

4-5 years.

> Because I don't eat fried foods, snacks

> and lots of crap every day.

It is just as easy to put on weight with

" good " food as it is with junk food if

you are eating more than you need. You

could eat nothing but pork fat every day

and provided you were eating 200-300

kcal/day less than you expend, you would

lose weight (you would soon get sick but

you would lose weight). The whole point

about eating " good " fresh natural food

instead of industry products is that you

get as much of the micronutrients as you

can and your health doesn't suffer while

you are losing weight. The " good " food

won't lose you any weight but it will

help to keep you healthy - that's the

whole point of it, it is not magic.

> I walk to work. Walk everywhere really

> (I live in NYC), and walk up 4 flights

> to get to my apt. every day. I am not a

> major exercise buff, but I am not

> completely sedentary.

That is the bitter part, ! Your body

is run by autonomous complex closed-loop

regulated systems and you cannot break in

to hand-steer them. All you can do is

set the appropriate external conditions

and your body will hopefully do the rest.

Unfortunately there is a process known

as adaptation and after a time (many

months) your body comes to take your

long-term activity level as normal and

adjusts to it. So if you need to get it

moving again you just have to be even

more active than before. The recommended

amount of exercise is always IN ADDITION

to what you are doing already, not

instead of it!

> Last year I tried going to the gym 4x

> a week for cardio and weight training

> and I wound up putting on weight,

> though my Hba1c went from 6.2 to 5.9.

Almost certainly because without

realizing it you were eating more than

before. The only way to know how much

you are eating objectively is to weigh

it and write it down before you eat it.

It is a pain in the backside but it is

the only way to be really sure of what

your energy intake level is.

> It was a mixed blessing, but I am just

> thoroughly annoyed at this point with

> my weight and think I need a different

> approach.

Well, what I have described is the

old-fashioned way. It is not easy, quite

the opposite. It has worked for me

so far but you have to think in months

and years and forget the days and weeks.

> Which is why I'm looking for concrete

> advice from others.

I can't give you advice, , just tell

you what I had to do to lose weight

long-term and I assume that if you are

more or less the same as me, it will

work for you, too. But if you are looking

for the easy way, forget it, there isn't

one!

> I'm glad my post didn't get ignored

> again.

I am sure we weren't ignoring you,

but there are a lot of messages and your

question is a tough one. I had to sit

down and spend nearly an hour putting

this together and all this information

is available on the Internet somewhere,

you just need to search for it.

If I was a betting man, I would bet that

you will still carry on looking for that

new, easy, way to lose weight " without

TOO much work " . You might find it over

the rainbow but not on this side!

Regards

Thornton

Pforzheim, Germany

[Guest guest]

hi gina! there are a ton of posts here, even if this a slow week!

(!!)

what kind of vegetarian are you? south beach definitely has chicken

on the menu and stuff. i'm not sure how one would substitute

adequately, without adding a lot of calories...

rach

> Well, with or without the pump my weight tends to creep up. I am

not the only one in my family with this problem.

>

> I don't tend to eat a lot of junk food. Atkins does not appeal to

me as I am a vegetarian. This seems like a sensible modification,

from what I've read and heard from friends. What I feel I need

right now is a structure without TOO much work. I've done the

lowfat thing, and I loathe the idea of keeping a food diary.

Whenever I've gone to a nutritionist, they go over the same things I

already know, with no new solutions. This seemed like a different

approach. I am diabetic for 25 years and by now I know all about

the food groups and my insulin needs. I just wanted to try a

different approach to what I've done in the past as the 'usual'

doesn't seem to be working. I am at an all-time weight high for me

and it is really annoying me. Because I don't eat fried foods,

snacks and lots of crap every day. I walk to work. Walk everywhere

really (I live in NYC), and walk up 4 flights to get to my apt.

every day. I am not a major exercise buff, but I am not completely

sedentary.

>

> Last year I tried going to the gym 4x a week for cardio and weight

training and I wound up putting on weight, though my Hba1c went from

6.2 to 5.9. It was a mixed blessing, but I am just thoroughly

annoyed at this point with my weight and think I need a different

approach. Which is why I'm looking for concrete advice from others.

>

> Thanks for responding. I'm glad my post didn't get ignored

again. :-)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm with you about eating things you like. That's why I count calories. I

don't restrict my calories too much because I know that I wouldn't stay with it

permanently if I did. I stay between 1500 and 1600 calories. So far it's

working for me. Lota

[Guest guest]

Hi Lota and ,

282# was my high. Diabetes allowed me to drop 50# or so (I thought

I was doing it with diet and exercise, but I suspect it was really

the undiagnosed diabetes that did most of the work.)

Once on meds and revved up, I dropped down to 208#, but it then

crept back up to over 260# before I got it turned around again. I'm

currently at 250#, using a modified low-carb Weight Watchers tending

towards Atkins, plus walking. May add Curves for more exercise if I

can rev myself up to it.

I do better when I eat less, and it doesn't matter too much what

that less is, so long as it's less. So I'm trying to keep it

generally lower-carb, as carbs can set my numbers off. Currently

I'm at an A1C of 5ish and fasting bg's in the 90's, so I want to

lose the weight to feel better and take the added pressure off my

knees.

I eat mostly eggs and chicken for protein, so if you can consider

that a modified vegetarian diet, , that would be workable. My

husband and I were vegetarian a couple decades ago, and all we ate

were the nummy parts, so naturally we gained weight. ;-]

TANSTAAFL. Atkins and WW try to change your life-style to one of

healthier eating. You get what you put into it.

I'm 52, diagnosed Type2 for approx. 4 years, on lowest doses of

Actos and Amaryl. I'm also on Paxil and Wellbutrin, one or all of

which tend toward weight gain (personally, I think it's more a

matter of feeling better so I enjoy food more). ;- ]

Just spent two weeks at my sister's place eating Atkins, and my

numbers were *great* -- better than hers, and she isn't diabetic.

Any way you can lower your carb intake is a plus in my book.

Hope this is helpful in some way. Good luck on the weight loss,

Lota. Good luck finding a regimen that works for you, .

Ellen

> Counting calories is really working for me, . A nurse who

specializes in

> diabetes told me that 1500 calories is about right because if you

eat any

> less you won't stick to it. My highest weight was 287. I weigh

238. I feel so

> much better since I have lost weight. I want to weigh 150 and I

will get

> there someday. May God bless you. Lota

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well,

I'm beginning to think there is some sense to the 'good carbs bad carbs' thing

because I do notice certain foods create more cravings than others. I test my

blood sugars 8 - 10 times a day and can see how certain foods affect me more

than others in terms of peaking blood sugars, insulin resistence (e.g. I need

more insulin for rice than most of my doctor's other type 1 patients), and

hunger.

I eat seafood, eggs and dairy so I feel fairly confident I'll be ok on this

diet. I tend to eat a lot of TVP products, so I'm not sure how that will work.

And, no, I do not have the exact same eating patterns as other family members

because I am the only one who seems to ever eat fruits and vegetables! :-) And

I am single and live alone. So we are not sharing meals. But it is definitely

something to consider.

I'm not foolish enough to think it won't be any work at all. I know I need to

put effort into it. But I just can't tolerate the lowfat thing anymore. Most

of the foods are disgusting and unfulfilling. Usually when I see a

nutritionist, we go over the food groups and carb counting again. I keep a food

diary and we set some guidelines. I stick to those guidelines and lose some

weight, then start putting it back on again. Some I know is from extra calories

creeping in, and changes in exercise patterns. I don't remove my own

responsibility from this. I'm not ignorant on the subject. But I also suspect

my metabolism is changing, and that frankly something isn't working for me.

It would be interesting to hear about other women and how their insulin needs

change during their menstrual cycle. I am now on the lowest dosage birth

control pill. I have wide swings in the week before my period where my basal

rates drop dramatically, almost overnight, for a few days, then shoot back up

again. It is during this time I have a harder time controlling my BGs. My endo

and my gyno and I have looked at this on an ongoing basis.

Anyway, a few people have given some nice support and tips and 'food for

thought' so I thank you for responding!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That is the way it is with lists sometimes. I keep email that I want to respond

to but sometimes miss a few. In any case, I am glad you posted again. Regarding

your question on losing weight, since you have been Diabetic for a while and

tried a lot of different programs you should have some idea of what does and

doesn't work for you. There are no easy answers. I have to eat almost nothing

because I am metabolically resistant. This is my lot in life. Eat very little

and exercise. That is the only way I can keep tight control of BGL's and lose

weight. I wish I had an answer for you but it boils down to trial and error. To

see what you can eat and not gain or hopefully lose. Good luck.

Vicki

From:

Well, with or without the pump my weight tends to creep up. I am not the only

one in my family with this problem.

I don't tend to eat a lot of junk food. Atkins does not appeal to me as I am

a vegetarian. This seems like a sensible modification, from what I've read and

heard from friends. What I feel I need right now is a structure without TOO

much work. I've done the lowfat thing, and I loathe the idea of keeping a food

diary. Whenever I've gone to a nutritionist, they go over the same things I

already know, with no new solutions. This seemed like a different approach. I

am diabetic for 25 years and by now I know all about the food groups and my

insulin needs. I just wanted to try a different approach to what I've done in

the past as the 'usual' doesn't seem to be working. I am at an all-time weight

high for me and it is really annoying me. Because I don't eat fried foods,

snacks and lots of crap every day. I walk to work. Walk everywhere really (I

live in NYC), and walk up 4 flights to get to my apt. every day. I am not a

major exercise buff, but I am not completely sedentary.

[Guest guest]

a long time ago, i became hyperthyroid and gained a lot of weight.

kinda counter-intuitive, but that is what happened. i ate more and

was so tired, i never exercised. anyways, got radiated and doctor

put me on a *low carb* diet. that really worked. but i put *low

carb* in quotes, because i think it would be more accurate to say it

was a selective carb diet. lot of greens/veggies, some lean protein,

and limited grains and processed foods of any kind.

so...i think there is something to it too. i know i need more

insulin for rice, fruit, pasta - that kind of thing - too.

re. the menstural / hormonal cycle thing: since becoming diabetic,

i've been tracking my basal temps. i feel it effects my insulin

needs, but i can't really catch it or plot a tell-all chart. still

adjusting and readjusting my thyroid / insulin regimen. and for me,

i think it really depends on right when the hormones hit, which is

impossible for me to really predict. i get sharp drops it seems

though at the beginning of my cycle.

rach

> Well,

> I'm beginning to think there is some sense to the 'good carbs bad

carbs' thing because I do notice certain foods create more cravings

than others. I test my blood sugars 8 - 10 times a day and can see

how certain foods affect me more than others in terms of peaking

blood sugars, insulin resistence (e.g. I need more insulin for rice

than most of my doctor's other type 1 patients), and hunger.

> It would be interesting to hear about other women and how their

insulin needs change during their menstrual cycle. I am now on the

lowest dosage birth control pill. I have wide swings in the week

before my period where my basal rates drop dramatically, almost

overnight, for a few days, then shoot back up again. It is during

this time I have a harder time controlling my BGs. My endo and my

gyno and I have looked at this on an ongoing basis.

[Guest guest]

Osiyo, & Welcome!

My response to anyone considering a temporary diet plan is: DON'T!

Weight lost on a temporary diet invariably comes back, plus some more.

The best idea (IMHO) is to modify your current diet plan for the long

term, in small increments. That way you get accustomed to it, and you

know whether you can stick to before you modify it again. Where food

intake and eating habits are concerned, take a very long term approach.

One other point regarding the daily diet: it has to have some

flavorful foods in it or you'll just cheat. Having small amounts of

the things you like is better for you in the long run than cutting

everything out at once and going into withdrawl. Take me for example.

I had a serious chocolate habit in which I indulged two or three times

a day. When I tried to quit chocolate (and gravy, and pizza, and

tortillas and...) all at once, all I did was go insane and then binge

in secret. What I learned to do was allow myself two pieces of

chocolate a day so that I don't have a dive. Likewise, I still eat

pizza, but nearly as much nor as often. I learned to substitute some

other choices, but allowed myself homeopathic doses of my favorites.

Quite often when we get diagnosed, we try to make several radical

lifestyle changes all at once, then we are surprised when it doesn't

work. Gradual changes will get you where you want to be, which is in

control, but still enjoying life.

Hope this helps.

Mitakuye Oyasin,

Bear

PS: I'm a T2 and not insulin dependent, but I stand by my statement

regarding one's diet.

In alldiabeticinternational ,

wrote: I am looking into starting the South Beach diet as my weight

has gone up slowly and steadily, and I am experiencing some insulin

resistence. I was wondering if anyone had any tips, thoughts,

comments etc. for me.

[Guest guest]

Osiyo again, !

With all due respect to our European based friend here, don't be

masochistic where diet is concerned. Taking off a pound a week and

keeping it off is a reasonable goal. One other thing: Make peace with

your body, your body size and your body shape. It will make

maintaining a healthy diet easier if you don't obsess about numbers.

To some degree, weight fluctuation is normal. Variables like weather,

what you ate that particular day, when you ate it, water retention,

emotional state, and several others all factor into it. Take the long

term approach.

Mitakuye Oyasin,

Bear

>

> > I am not the only one in my family

> > with this problem.

>

> That doesn't mean that it is

> hereditary, ! It is more likely

> that you are all eating the same

> stuff in the same quantities!

>

> > I don't tend to eat a lot of junk

> > food.

>

> Try eating no junk food at all, none,

> zilch! Better still, don't buy any.

> Then you can't eat it - unless somebody

> is feeding you with it.

>

> > What I feel I need right now is a

> > structure without TOO much work.

>

> Then you are not going to get very far

> in the long-term, . The whole

> thing is a pain in the rearend. I have

> found that if it doesn't take much out

> of you then you are probably not doing

> it right.

>

> > I've done the lowfat thing, ...

>

> That is nonsense anyway and without any

> medical evidence that it does any good.

>

> > ... and I loathe the idea of keeping

> > a food diary.

>

> That works if you do it conscientiously

> and weigh your food and stop eating

> when you have reached approximately

> your calories for the day.

>

> > Whenever I've gone to a nutritionist,

> > they go over the same things I already

> > know, with no new solutions.

>

> There ARE no new solutions, ,

> nothing has changed. We are still being

> made the same way! Nobody wants to

> believe that there is no easy way

> to lose weight and that they cannot

> BUY weight loss, they have to sweat

> it out. You can almost say about any

> weight loss method: If it costs money,

> it is a scam!

>

> You just need to eat about 200-300

> kcal/day less on average than you have

> been eating up to now and you will lose

> weight slowly. The general experience

> is that you can lose about 5% of your

> peak weight before your body adapts to

> the reduced energy input.

>

> No normal person can think in averages

> and not even nutritionists can estimate

> 200-300 kcal/day difference accurately

> so the food diary and weighing your

> food and working out the calories is

> the only reasonable way to do it. It

> is really a pain and very tedious and

> takes up time that you may not have but

> it does work and it is up to you to

> decide which is more important to you:

> saving the time or losing the weight.

>

> > I just wanted to try a different

> > approach to what I've done in the

> > past as the 'usual' doesn't seem to

> > be working.

>

> I read somewhere that 95% of all over-

> weights trying to lose weight long-term

> fail. Long-term is 4-5 years. If your

> weight is at least 5% less after 4-5

> years than it was at your last maximum

> then you have been successful.

>

> >I am at an all-time weight high for me

> and it is really annoying me.<

>

> That is the ideal time to have another

> go. My situation sounds almost the same

> as yours. And I woke up on May 22nd to the

> fact that I have put on weight again

> and that some of it has to go. I hope to

> lose 5% or about 4.6 kg (10 lbs) by the

> end of July and then keep it off for

> 4-5 years.

>

> > Because I don't eat fried foods, snacks

> > and lots of crap every day.

>

> It is just as easy to put on weight with

> " good " food as it is with junk food if

> you are eating more than you need. You

> could eat nothing but pork fat every day

> and provided you were eating 200-300

> kcal/day less than you expend, you would

> lose weight (you would soon get sick but

> you would lose weight). The whole point

> about eating " good " fresh natural food

> instead of industry products is that you

> get as much of the micronutrients as you

> can and your health doesn't suffer while

> you are losing weight. The " good " food

> won't lose you any weight but it will

> help to keep you healthy - that's the

> whole point of it, it is not magic.

>

> > I walk to work. Walk everywhere really

> > (I live in NYC), and walk up 4 flights

> > to get to my apt. every day. I am not a

> > major exercise buff, but I am not

> > completely sedentary.

>

> That is the bitter part, ! Your body

> is run by autonomous complex closed-loop

> regulated systems and you cannot break in

> to hand-steer them. All you can do is

> set the appropriate external conditions

> and your body will hopefully do the rest.

>

> Unfortunately there is a process known

> as adaptation and after a time (many

> months) your body comes to take your

> long-term activity level as normal and

> adjusts to it. So if you need to get it

> moving again you just have to be even

> more active than before. The recommended

> amount of exercise is always IN ADDITION

> to what you are doing already, not

> instead of it!

>

> > Last year I tried going to the gym 4x

> > a week for cardio and weight training

> > and I wound up putting on weight,

> > though my Hba1c went from 6.2 to 5.9.

>

> Almost certainly because without

> realizing it you were eating more than

> before. The only way to know how much

> you are eating objectively is to weigh

> it and write it down before you eat it.

> It is a pain in the backside but it is

> the only way to be really sure of what

> your energy intake level is.

>

> > It was a mixed blessing, but I am just

> > thoroughly annoyed at this point with

> > my weight and think I need a different

> > approach.

>

> Well, what I have described is the

> old-fashioned way. It is not easy, quite

> the opposite. It has worked for me

> so far but you have to think in months

> and years and forget the days and weeks.

>

> > Which is why I'm looking for concrete

> > advice from others.

>

> I can't give you advice, , just tell

> you what I had to do to lose weight

> long-term and I assume that if you are

> more or less the same as me, it will

> work for you, too. But if you are looking

> for the easy way, forget it, there isn't

> one!

>

> > I'm glad my post didn't get ignored

> > again.

>

> I am sure we weren't ignoring you,

> but there are a lot of messages and your

> question is a tough one. I had to sit

> down and spend nearly an hour putting

> this together and all this information

> is available on the Internet somewhere,

> you just need to search for it.

>

> If I was a betting man, I would bet that

> you will still carry on looking for that

> new, easy, way to lose weight " without

> TOO much work " . You might find it over

> the rainbow but not on this side!

>

> Regards

>

> Thornton

> Pforzheim, Germany

[Guest guest]

Osiyo, Ellen!

Call it cynicism, but TANSTAAFL may be the ultimate truth in our world.

Mitakuye Oyasin,

Bear

" [snip]I eat mostly eggs and chicken for

protein, so if you can consider that a modified vegetarian diet, ,

that would be workable. My husband and I were vegetarian a couple

decades ago, and all we ate were the nummy parts, so naturally we

gained weight. ;-] TANSTAAFL. Atkins and WW try to change your

life-style to one of healthier eating. You get what you put into it. "

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/1/2004 9:39:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

britzgranny1@... writes:

GINA, Hello I am new too I have type 2 and take three meds at night

I also need diet tips

I think a lot of people are away from there computer because of the long

weekend

glad you are here

Patsy OSCP http://www.picturetrail.com/patsysprettys

Hi Patsy;-) Yup, you got it! How was your weekend/ My week was fast and

furious, the grandkids wore me out! happy to be home. Hugs, Marilyn

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In a message dated 7/1/2004 2:14:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

rfong_tom3@... writes:

a long time ago, i became hyperthyroid and gained a lot of weight.

>>>>>Hi Rach, I think you meant HYPO thyroid, didn't cha ;-) Hugs, Marilyn

Marilyn

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hi marilyn!

it's completely counterintuitive - but no, i became hyper and gained

a lot of weight. my take is, it had a lot to do with compensation

eating and then being so lethargic, i did zero exercise. the weight-

loss with being hyper, i have since learned, is nothing so dramatic

as the loss with diabetes! now that was scary. it's what got me to

the doctor, when i became diabetic, because i didn't feel that bad...

rach

> In a message dated 7/1/2004 2:14:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> rfong_tom3@y... writes:

> a long time ago, i became hyperthyroid and gained a lot of weight.

> >>>>>Hi Rach, I think you meant HYPO thyroid, didn't cha ;-)

Hugs, Marilyn

>

> Marilyn

> Moderator for

> Diabetic_Recipes

> dnevessr@a...

> Opinions expressed are solely

> my own and should not be

> mistaken for

> Professional advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi marilyn!

it's completely counterintuitive - but no, i became hyper and gained

a lot of weight. my take is, it had a lot to do with compensation

eating and then being so lethargic, i did zero exercise. the weight-

loss with being hyper, i have since learned, is nothing so dramatic

as the loss with diabetes! now that was scary. it's what got me to

the doctor, when i became diabetic, because i didn't feel that bad...

rach

> In a message dated 7/1/2004 2:14:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> rfong_tom3@y... writes:

> a long time ago, i became hyperthyroid and gained a lot of weight.

> >>>>>Hi Rach, I think you meant HYPO thyroid, didn't cha ;-)

Hugs, Marilyn

>

> Marilyn

> Moderator for

> Diabetic_Recipes

> dnevessr@a...

> Opinions expressed are solely

> my own and should not be

> mistaken for

> Professional advice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi marilyn!

it's completely counterintuitive - but no, i became hyper and gained

a lot of weight. my take is, it had a lot to do with compensation

eating and then being so lethargic, i did zero exercise. the weight-

loss with being hyper, i have since learned, is nothing so dramatic

as the loss with diabetes! now that was scary. it's what got me to

the doctor, when i became diabetic, because i didn't feel that bad...

rach

> In a message dated 7/1/2004 2:14:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> rfong_tom3@y... writes:

> a long time ago, i became hyperthyroid and gained a lot of weight.

> >>>>>Hi Rach, I think you meant HYPO thyroid, didn't cha ;-)

Hugs, Marilyn

>

> Marilyn

> Moderator for

> Diabetic_Recipes

> dnevessr@a...

> Opinions expressed are solely

> my own and should not be

> mistaken for

> Professional advice.

>

>

>