Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 In a message dated 7/18/2004 8:39:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, BIGUTE-HORT@... writes: For the most part, many diabetics will take in 8-15 carbs per day and most must manage sugars, starches, and fats/proteins. The greatest challenge is to transition to healthy food that is pleasing and in many cases to find food for ourselves and our non-diabetic family members. That I would assume is the reason that Marilyn so graciously has been sharing recipes with the group. I know I give them to my wife in case she wants to spice up our menu, although I eat to live, not live to eat....so anything will suit me as long as it is in my diet range ( fiber/nuts/fish/carb counts)..... Reading this blows me away. 8 - 15 carbs a day??? The list I was given by the diabetic association has a 1200 calorie diet = 75 carbs or 5 exchanges. 1500 calorie diet = 90 carbs or 6 exchanges 1800 calorie diet = 120 carbs or 8 exchanges 2000 calorie diet = 135 carbs or 9 exchanges 2500 calorie diet = 150 carbs or 10 exchanges Now, do you see why I am posting the recipes? I would like to learn the reason for the discrepancy. Hugs, Marilyn I would like to hear from others what they are doing as carb tops. Okay? Marilyn Moderator for Diabetic_Recipes dnevessr@... Opinions expressed are solely my own and should not be mistaken for Professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 The carbohydrate descrepancy exists because the organizations have not kept up with the latest research. Just think about the original food pyramid that was taught to us all those years. Someone, ( perhaps such as the dairy industry ) was getting rich from the faulty information. Go back to the sugar substitute industry. The sugar lobby was so strong that they managed to block some of the earlier artificial sweetners from being sold in this country. ( I know I used to get Splenda from Canada before I could get it here). Finally some of the endocrinologists saw that the diet with the exchanges etc, from the diabetic associations were making there clients sicker. It has been said here before, diabetes is not a one size fits all disease. The diet guidelines are just that, guidelines. Many people without diabetes that I know live on a rather low carb diet. They have eliminated white flour, white rice, white potatos. Their intake of sugar is minimal or non existant. They eat whole grains, vegs that are low starch , protein whether it be from animal source or plant source and fruits. Most of these items if used in their whole unprocessed state provide lots of fiber. The fruit for example, eaten whole has a lot less effect on sugar levels because of the fiber in it. Juice of a fruit is concentrated sugar. Most of us were raised on processed foods and fast foods. The nutrition industry had us believing that these products were good for us. My mother had a heart condition. The thought at that time was to avoid all animal products.. low fat... become a vegetarian. Trouble was no one told her how. She ate almost exclusively processed flour products,( breads cakes cookies potatoes, rice etc.) She never knew the amount of fat she was really eating. For her trouble, she developed diabetes. Yes carbs are important for the body and brain, but just like calories, they are not all created equal. When people hear Atkins or South Beach they automatically assume that you are eating tons of fat laden beef and pork. I am sure some do, but both plans after an initial two weeks resume the use of vegetables, fruits and grain. It's just a process of education. I followed all the advice I have gotten over the years from the " professionals " and all it got me was a higher number on the scale and on the blood sugar evaluations. I actually heard someone in one of the chat rooms suggest pop tarts as a snack because he could handle it! Please lets use a little common sense. You have to do what works for you, but with the evidence that is out there don't trust just one source because it comes from an association with the word diabetes in it. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Marilyn---When I say carbs I mean " exchanges " ...My diabetes education dept. chooses to relate " 1 carb=15 grams carbohydrate " ....My God! If I eat 12 carbs per day (4-4-4) I am eating 3000 calories? I guess I really need to cut my carb intake in half....ROLF [alldiabeticinternational] carbs/exchanges In a message dated 7/18/2004 8:39:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, BIGUTE-HORT@... writes: For the most part, many diabetics will take in 8-15 carbs per day and most must manage sugars, starches, and fats/proteins. The greatest challenge is to transition to healthy food that is pleasing and in many cases to find food for ourselves and our non-diabetic family members. That I would assume is the reason that Marilyn so graciously has been sharing recipes with the group. I know I give them to my wife in case she wants to spice up our menu, although I eat to live, not live to eat....so anything will suit me as long as it is in my diet range ( fiber/nuts/fish/carb counts)..... Reading this blows me away. 8 - 15 carbs a day??? The list I was given by the diabetic association has a 1200 calorie diet = 75 carbs or 5 exchanges. 1500 calorie diet = 90 carbs or 6 exchanges 1800 calorie diet = 120 carbs or 8 exchanges 2000 calorie diet = 135 carbs or 9 exchanges 2500 calorie diet = 150 carbs or 10 exchanges Now, do you see why I am posting the recipes? I would like to learn the reason for the discrepancy. Hugs, Marilyn I would like to hear from others what they are doing as carb tops. Okay? Marilyn Moderator for Diabetic_Recipes dnevessr@... Opinions expressed are solely my own and should not be mistaken for Professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 whoa! 15 a day? either way...in exchange or in grams...i can't see it. that sounds to me like either no meals or one big huge all day meal. although, maybe if you were a tall athlete, you might take in 15 exchanges a day? rach >many diabetics will take in 8-15 carbs per day > Reading this blows me away. 8 - 15 carbs a day??? The list I was given by > the diabetic association has a 1200 calorie diet = 75 carbs or 5 exchanges. > 1500 calorie diet = 90 carbs or 6 exchanges > 1800 calorie diet = 120 carbs or 8 exchanges > 2000 calorie diet = 135 carbs or 9 exchanges > 2500 calorie diet = 150 carbs or 10 exchanges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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