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> Has anyone ever tried a product called Aqua Flora for getting rid of

a yeast infection? This garlic stuff isn't settling well with me.

for a vaginal yeast infection (which may or may not be what

you are trying to get rid of), boric acid works VERY VERY well.

Buy a bottle of the posder (boric acid), from band-aid aisle

at the drugstore, and put it in capsules. One or two capsules

2 or 3 times a day. Should start to turn around in a couple

of days with much remission in 4 or 5 days.

very cheap, very effective.

a web search will find some info on this method as well.

best wishes,

Moria

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Not vaginal, system wide. Doctor diagnosed and wants me eating yogurt and

taking garlic tablets, neither of which I can get down. Thought I'd try some

things on my own before going back to him for another solution. About to

purchase something called Yeast Busters online (still thinking on that one), and

just picked up some fresh garlic.

>

for a vaginal yeast infection (which may or may not be what

you are trying to get rid of), boric acid works VERY VERY well.

Buy a bottle of the posder (boric acid), from band-aid aisle

at the drugstore, and put it in capsules. One or two capsules

2 or 3 times a day. Should start to turn around in a couple

of days with much remission in 4 or 5 days.

very cheap, very effective.

a web search will find some info on this method as well.

best wishes,

Moria

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Hi,

At 21:21 6-1-2003, you wrote:

>Not vaginal, system wide. Doctor diagnosed and wants me eating yogurt and

>taking garlic tablets, neither of which I can get down. Thought I'd try

>some things on my own before going back to him for another

>solution. About to purchase something called Yeast Busters online (still

>thinking on that one), and just picked up some fresh garlic.

Caprylic acid works for me (together with probiotics & psyllium they're

essential, I'm told). Rooibos tea and sage tea help a lot, as does using

(fresh) rosemary, thyme, sage and bayleaf in food (not necessarily at the

same time) and (unheated) olive oil (as a salad dressing, for example).

Cranberry juice might help too, simply because of acidity. Cutting out

sugar (and caffeine and artificial sweeteners) in your diet, and going easy

on simple carbohydrates (like white flour, bread, pasta etc.) also helps.

Chromium picolinate helps against sugar cravings.

Cheers,

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In a message dated 1/6/2003 2:17:00 PM Central Standard Time,

mercurymommy@... writes:

> Not vaginal, system wide. Doctor diagnosed and wants me eating yogurt and

> taking garlic tablets, neither of which I can get down. Thought I'd try

> some things on my own before going back to him for another solution. About

> to purchase something called Yeast Busters online (still thinking on that

> one), and just picked up some fresh garlic.

>

The only thing that helped me when I had system wide problem was the diet. I

starved the yeast by removing what they eat or favor.

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Moria, how are the capules used? Not orally, right? Just want to be

clear. Don't want anybody putting it in the wrong place...

> > Has anyone ever tried a product called Aqua Flora for getting rid

of

> a yeast infection? This garlic stuff isn't settling well with me.

>

>

> for a vaginal yeast infection (which may or may not be what

> you are trying to get rid of), boric acid works VERY VERY well.

> Buy a bottle of the posder (boric acid), from band-aid aisle

> at the drugstore, and put it in capsules. One or two capsules

> 2 or 3 times a day. Should start to turn around in a couple

> of days with much remission in 4 or 5 days.

>

> very cheap, very effective.

>

> a web search will find some info on this method as well.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

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I'd been a low-carber for years until just a year ago when the mercury symptoms

exploded and my life hasn't been the same. Until I can swallow again my diet

will have to include dairy products which is the worst thing you can consume

with a yeast infection. :(

>

The only thing that helped me when I had system wide problem was the diet. I

starved the yeast by removing what they eat or favor.

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raw dairy seems to work well for alot of people.

lots of folks on the live-food list with mercury issues and eating heartily

raw milk, raw cream, raw honey.

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> I'd been a low-carber for years until just a year ago when the mercury

symptoms exploded and my life hasn't been the same. Until I can swallow

again my diet will have to include dairy products which is the worst thing

you can consume with a yeast infection. :(

>

> >

>

> The only thing that helped me when I had system wide problem was the diet.

I

> starved the yeast by removing what they eat or favor.

>

>

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I'm having to use alot of sour cream to get food down, and that's after all my

food has been put through 2 food processors until it's almost a paste. The sour

cream makes a pudding consistencey that I can swallow. I've tried yogurt,

plain and flavored and it doesn't agree with me. I'm having new dentures made

that will be ready in another month or so and after I've become accustomed to

them, things may start to improve.

<

raw dairy seems to work well for alot of people.

lots of folks on the live-food list with mercury issues and eating heartily

raw milk, raw cream, raw honey.

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In a message dated 1/6/2003 11:43:25 PM Central Standard Time,

mercurymommy@... writes:

> Until I can swallow again my diet will have to include dairy products which

> is the worst thing you can consume with a yeast infection. :(

>

I missed why you can't swallow,.....and why you have to eat dairy

products.......but if it is due to the texture and softness food.......then

you might try this.

Buy almond, rice, or soy milk unflavored (to keep sugar low).........and use

pure soy protein powder or a protein powder of your choice. Add any

supplements such as caprycin or yeast fighting stuff plus the good gut flora

stuff. You can flavor with vanilla, or peppermint or coconut

oils.........there is a vanilla that has no sugar which is pure vanilla.

There are sweetners such as stevia which have no sugar but only require small

amounts.

You can make shakes that have minimal carbohydrates and sugar but packed full

of protein and supplements which you can drink through a straw. I always add

ice and make it like a slushy.........it feels good on a sore throat.

why can't you swallow if this is not a too personal question?

claire

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aluckower@... writes:

> lots of folks on the live-food list with mercury issues and eating heartily

> raw milk, raw cream, raw honey.

>

honey will feed yeast

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> > > Has anyone ever tried a product called Aqua Flora for getting

rid

> of

> > a yeast infection? This garlic stuff isn't settling well with

me.

> >

> >

> > for a vaginal yeast infection (which may or may not be what

> > you are trying to get rid of), boric acid works VERY VERY well.

> > Buy a bottle of the posder (boric acid), from band-aid aisle

> > at the drugstore, and put it in capsules. One or two capsules

> > 2 or 3 times a day. Should start to turn around in a couple

> > of days with much remission in 4 or 5 days.

> >

> > very cheap, very effective.

> >

> > a web search will find some info on this method as well.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Moria

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why can't you swallow if this is not a too personal question?

claire

>

>

My doc and I believe the swallowing problem stems from 2 reasons. Something has

deadened the nerves at the back of my mouth and down my throat. Probably the

mercury poisoning. That caused a series of nasty choking spells that started a

couple of years ago, so I then developed a fear of choking to death. I'm seeing

great improvements from the DMPS treatments I'm receiving except with the

swallowing problem, so I'm scheduled to see a hypnotherapist next month. There

is also a kind of mild stroke that can cause a problem with only the swallowing

reflex. I can't remember the name of it, and it's impossible to test for it

after-the-fact. On a brighter note ... I can wear a full upper denture without

the gag reflex kicking in. LOL

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In a message dated 1/7/2003 9:18:24 PM Central Standard Time,

kattali99@... writes:

> Garlic is wonderful, but it is difficult to get down unless

> you can get it in capsules, dried, and deorderized. I take it with a

> soy protien shake made with rice milk. It is thick and makes it go

> down well b/c the shake coats my stomach well.

>

Ok, your going to think I'm crazy.......but I eat raw garlic and sometimes 10

cloves at a time. I get them down by using a garlic press to crush them into

small pieces and mix with tomato juice. the tomato juice seems to cut the

heat and it helps get it down. Of course, do this on a full stomach. Raw

garlic is cheaper and better.

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> why can't you swallow if this is not a too personal question?

> claire

> >

> >

> My doc and I believe the swallowing problem stems from 2 reasons.

74% of orthdontic cases result from the abnormal swallow. The tongue

presses against the teeth and moves them like an orthodontic applicance, but

to unnatural positions. This creates irregularities in the bite

relationship and leads to grinding and clenching and the Temporomandibular

Joint Dysfunction Syndrome. Few dentists know how to deal with the problem.

The abnormal swallow is all too common.

Our book, Healthy Teeth for KIDS, published by Kensington, has a chapter

that explains how it forms....and how it can be corrected. I strongly

suggest you get it at your bookstore or Amizon.com .

Bev, my wife, was a Myofunctional Therapist in our practice before we

retired. She helped people to learn how to swallow correctly - and we had

great results.

If you would like to have a referral to someone to help you, a Myofunctional

Therapist, let us know.

The abnormal swallow is actually an abnormal neuro-muscular pattern of the

tongue. It results in many dental problems, including premature loss of

teeth...and then the complete inability to tolerate dentures.

Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM

Don't miss out - get your free sample copy of The Holistic Dental Digest

PLUS

= information you're not likely to get elsewhere -- by replying to

jmittelman@... with your PO Box or street address.

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I've been working with 2 different Myofunctional Therapists for over a year,

with no improvement. One is sure I've had a stroke and one believes a *suddenly

appearing* case of Tongue Thrust is to blame. I'm working with my doctor on

this not my dentist. My dentist was right upfront about not having any idea

what might be causing the throat and swallowing problems. My doctor has seen

this symptom before with cases of mercury and cadmium poisoning, and the problem

has either eased significantly or completely disappeared after a full course of

treatment. The reason I'm scheduled to see a hypnotherapist is because my mind

is causing part of the problem. Thanks Jerry :):)

>

>

74% of orthdontic cases result from the abnormal swallow. The tongue

presses against the teeth and moves them like an orthodontic applicance, but

to unnatural positions. This creates irregularities in the bite

relationship and leads to grinding and clenching and the Temporomandibular

Joint Dysfunction Syndrome. Few dentists know how to deal with the problem.

The abnormal swallow is all too common.

Our book, Healthy Teeth for KIDS, published by Kensington, has a chapter

that explains how it forms....and how it can be corrected. I strongly

suggest you get it at your bookstore or Amizon.com .

Bev, my wife, was a Myofunctional Therapist in our practice before we

retired. She helped people to learn how to swallow correctly - and we had

great results.

If you would like to have a referral to someone to help you, a Myofunctional

Therapist, let us know.

The abnormal swallow is actually an abnormal neuro-muscular pattern of the

tongue. It results in many dental problems, including premature loss of

teeth...and then the complete inability to tolerate dentures.

Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM

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If you have system wide yeast, though, then you'll have to do more

than cut out bread. You'll have to cut out the sources that feed the

yeast b/c already the 'bad' yeasts have killed most of the 'good'

yeasts so there are not enough of the 'good' yeasts to fight them

off. The mercury 'feeds' the bad yeasts so that source is the most

difficult to rid. However, you can cut off the other sources of

feeding by eliminating the following sources:

*all yeast foods

*sugar foods, even honey, organic sugars, etc.

*anything that has " trose " on the label such as dextrose, etc.

(these are sugars)

*all vinegered foods like pickles, condiments, salad food dressings

*all dairy

*all startch vegetables (corn, beets, peas, etc) they turn to sugar

too fast

*all white flour products --they turn to sugar too fast

*white rice--turns to sugar too fast...use brown rice instead

*No peanuts or nuts..they produce molds easily

*No melon fruits, oranges, bananas...mold producing, turn to sugar

too fast

Get the idea? You can use other products instead, such as soy milk,

rice milk, soy butter, etc instead of milk products. It does take

creativity to find substitutions, but it can be done. You don't

crave the sugar after 2 weeks. Promise.

Supplements you need and which will help: Vitamin C 1000mg 2 pills

at a.m. and p.m., a multidophilus lactic flora (bulgaricus,

acidophilus, bificum combination but make sure it has no dairy and

it is better that it is refrigerated) 2 pills at a.m. and supper

time AND if you can get a prescription for Nystatin in PILL form

that would be great b/c it will really help to clean out the vital

organs. Garlic is wonderful, but it is difficult to get down unless

you can get it in capsules, dried, and deorderized. I take it with a

soy protien shake made with rice milk. It is thick and makes it go

down well b/c the shake coats my stomach well.

I hope this helps. I have lived with systematic yeast for years and

it's so second hand that it's pathetic. I take many more supplements

than the three I have mentioned. But those are the top three.

Ali

> raw dairy seems to work well for alot of people.

>

> lots of folks on the live-food list with mercury issues and eating

heartily

> raw milk, raw cream, raw honey.

>

>

> > I'd been a low-carber for years until just a year ago when the

mercury

> symptoms exploded and my life hasn't been the same. Until I can

swallow

> again my diet will have to include dairy products which is the

worst thing

> you can consume with a yeast infection. :(

> >

> > >

> >

> > The only thing that helped me when I had system wide problem was

the diet. I starved the yeast by removing what they eat or favor.

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Hi

I have been doing the right diet and supplements for well over 13

months plus taking probiotics and special supplements to get rid of

the yeast. However I still have a daily discharge which I am

thoroughly fed up with. There is no pain or irritation, just a

discharge.

My last filling was removed last September and I have been chelating

ALA 50 mg every 3 hours 3 days a week and it does seem to have made

this discharge worse.

Do I need medication from the doctor as I have been unsuccessful in

treating it naturally.

Pam

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Hi,

At 20:46 8-1-2003, you wrote:

>I have been doing the right diet and supplements for well over 13

>months plus taking probiotics and special supplements to get rid of

>the yeast. However I still have a daily discharge which I am

>thoroughly fed up with. There is no pain or irritation, just a

>discharge.

Might not be yeast. Some kinds of discharge are actually healthy. Check out

the book 'Taking Control Of Your Fertility' for a lot of good info on the

healthy types of discharge.

Cheers,

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Personally I would get some medication if the discharge is there Pam.

Wouldn't hurt getting it checked out anyway. Jeanie

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Hi

I have been doing the right diet and supplements for well over 13

months plus taking probiotics and special supplements to get rid of

the yeast. However I still have a daily discharge which I am

thoroughly fed up with. There is no pain or irritation, just a

discharge.

My last filling was removed last September and I have been chelating

ALA 50 mg every 3 hours 3 days a week and it does seem to have made

this discharge worse.

Do I need medication from the doctor as I have been unsuccessful in

treating it naturally.

Pam

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OMG! LOL....I cannot imagine this! Bless you! I think I'll stick to

my soy shake. It's much nicer. I'm sure raw garic is cheaper and

better. But first of all I'm not suppose to have any juice and I

can't imagine chomping on it raw or sprinkling raw garlic on what I

can eat at the moment. I'm glad it works for you, though. To each

his own in this battle. But I do thank you for sharing.

Ali

>

> Ok, your going to think I'm crazy.......but I eat raw garlic and

sometimes 10 cloves at a time. I get them down by using a garlic

press to crush them into small pieces and mix with tomato juice.

the tomato juice seems to cut the heat and it helps get it down. Of

course, do this on a full stomach. Raw garlic is cheaper and better.

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Pam,

If the discharge is clear, unscented and slippery it could be mucous

(instead of yeast-related) created from a histamine response to foods or

other allergens to which you react.

Cindy

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> Pam,

>

> If the discharge is clear, unscented and slippery it could be

mucous

> (instead of yeast-related) created from a histamine response to

foods or

> other allergens to which you react.

Hi Cindy

No it isn't clear but yellow with a slight creamy smell. Sorry

about that it isn't a nice subject is it?

Pam

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Hi Pam,

From you later comments on this discharge, I really don't have

a sense that it is yeast. I'm not sure. Yeast generally

itches like crazy.

best,

Moria

p.s. I do have a great recommendation for treating vaginal

yeast, let me know if you want me to post about it.

> I have been doing the right diet and supplements for well over 13

> months plus taking probiotics and special supplements to get rid of

> the yeast. However I still have a daily discharge which I am

> thoroughly fed up with. There is no pain or irritation, just a

> discharge.

>

> My last filling was removed last September and I have been chelating

> ALA 50 mg every 3 hours 3 days a week and it does seem to have made

> this discharge worse.

>

> Do I need medication from the doctor as I have been unsuccessful in

> treating it naturally.

>

> Pam

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