Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 You'll find an extensive symptom list for adrenal, thyroid and combined adrenal/thyroid symptoms at http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp -a Can anyone please tell me the best way to determine if your adrenals and thyroid are low? Are there specific, obvious symptoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 a, Great chart. Very interesting. Thanks, Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Hi Dave- A friend sent me this link: http://www.adrenalfatigue.org Kathy thyroid/adrenals I've seen quite a bit posted recently on this and other lists about low thyroid and adrenals. Can anyone please tell me the best way to determine if your adrenals and thyroid are low? Are there specific, obvious symptoms? Thanks, Dave --- " doggy532001 " wrote: > Hi everyone > > My thyroid and adrenals have been really badly affected by long term > mercury poisoning. At last I have got Armour and hydrocortisone but > have only been taking the Armour for 11 days (1 1/2 grain a day). > Next week I will be raising it to 2 grains a day. Does anyone know > approximately how long it takes for it to make a difference to how I > feel and my energy levels, blood sugar levels and temperature? When I change thyroid homone dosage, I feel the difference within 8 hours. However, it seems reaction time varies from person to person. I've tried Armour and Synthroid (right now I'm on a mix of the two) and I feel better with mostly Synthroid. I get lots of ear noises (whooshing, ringing, etc.) with mostly Armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 As a side note, I've done the temperature charting that he recommends and my temperature was all over the place. So I shelled out the money and did a 24-hour saliva test for cortisol. The temperature chart was right on the money, my cortisol is way low. Save yourself the money and just do the temperature charting. I'm convinced it's very accurate. As I've done specific adrenal support vitamins and sublingual adrenal cortex extract for three months I'm seeing the recovery pattern on the temperature chart start to form just like he says it will do. Very interesting stuff. --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Kathy and a, thanks! ------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:45:40 -0800 Subject: Re: thyroid/adrenals Hi Dave- A friend sent me this link: http://www.adrenalfatigue.org Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 Hi a- What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? Kathy Re: thyroid/adrenals As a side note, I've done the temperature charting that he recommends and my temperature was all over the place. So I shelled out the money and did a 24-hour saliva test for cortisol. The temperature chart was right on the money, my cortisol is way low. Save yourself the money and just do the temperature charting. I'm convinced it's very accurate. As I've done specific adrenal support vitamins and sublingual adrenal cortex extract for three months I'm seeing the recovery pattern on the temperature chart start to form just like he says it will do. Very interesting stuff. --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2002 Report Share Posted November 25, 2002 > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > Vitamin C Magnesium B-5 B-6 B-100 Niacin P5P form Mixed E L-Proline Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.html/SID= 1036020172.27696 BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month supply - shop the internet for the best price I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for adrenal purposes. When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 This is not a relevant list for adrenal support. The C and B5 are moderately helpful AS ADJUNCTS TO OTHER SUPPLEMENTS NOT ON THAT LIST. Try adrenal cortex extract, DHEA or 7 keto DHEA, pregnenolone, and whichever of licorice, sarsaparilla and ginseng you do well on. Andy . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . > > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > > > Vitamin C > Magnesium > B-5 > B-6 > B-100 > Niacin P5P form > Mixed E > L-Proline > Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com > Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula > http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.htm l/SID= > 1036020172.27696 > BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month > supply - shop the internet for the best price > > I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I > don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for > adrenal purposes. > > When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. > When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Andy- Thanks to your previous postings which I brought to my doc visit today, he totally agrees that we back down on thyroid support and add the adrenal stuff. I see words like Adrenal Glandulars, Adrenal Cortex and Whole Adrenal. In looking at the descriptions on these, I am really confused. What he wants me to take is the one with the pregn, dhea, etc. and the added stuff such a the B5, etc.. Can you go out on a limb and recommend a good product that has all the stuff? Kathy Re: thyroid/adrenals This is not a relevant list for adrenal support. The C and B5 are moderately helpful AS ADJUNCTS TO OTHER SUPPLEMENTS NOT ON THAT LIST. Try adrenal cortex extract, DHEA or 7 keto DHEA, pregnenolone, and whichever of licorice, sarsaparilla and ginseng you do well on. Andy . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . > > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > > > Vitamin C > Magnesium > B-5 > B-6 > B-100 > Niacin P5P form > Mixed E > L-Proline > Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com > Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula > http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.htm l/SID= > 1036020172.27696 > BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month > supply - shop the internet for the best price > > I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I > don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for > adrenal purposes. > > When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. > When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 >This is not a relevant list for adrenal support. The C and B5 are >moderately helpful AS ADJUNCTS TO OTHER SUPPLEMENTS NOT ON THAT LIST. Kathy asked me a question, she's entitled to a response. C and B5 are listed as essential for the adrenal cascade by several biomedical M.D.'s. Even my Prescription for Nutritional Healing book lists them at the top as essential vitamins for adrenal recovery. You may not agree, but it's pretty common info in the health world. -a Try adrenal cortex extract, DHEA or 7 keto DHEA, pregnenolone, and whichever of licorice, sarsaparilla and ginseng you do well on. Andy . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . > > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > > > Vitamin C > Magnesium > B-5 > B-6 > B-100 > Niacin P5P form > Mixed E > L-Proline > Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com > Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula > http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.htm l/SID= > 1036020172.27696 > BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month > supply - shop the internet for the best price > > I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I > don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for > adrenal purposes. > > When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. > When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/programmild.php Re: thyroid/adrenals > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > Vitamin C Magnesium B-5 B-6 B-100 Niacin P5P form Mixed E L-Proline Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.html/SID= 1036020172.27696 BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month supply - shop the internet for the best price I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for adrenal purposes. When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 Oops a- My previous email got away from me! Thanks for taking the time to post your progam for me and referring the Future Formulations site. A friend had just emailed me www.adrenalfatigue.org which lists the program and all the products that are part of Dr s program. I can't take fillers in supplemements and this liquid is really my only option. I notice that is has 25% ethanol in it which I know how to dissipate that off....I'll call the company and make sure first. Anyway, are you taking just the liquid or are you also taking some of the other complimentary products like the Adrenal Exhaustion formula? Also on the rest of the supplements, is that all in one product or do you take them individually? Kathy Re: thyroid/adrenals > What adrenal support vitamins are you taking? > Vitamin C Magnesium B-5 B-6 B-100 Niacin P5P form Mixed E L-Proline Free Form Amino Acids - from Dr. Rind's site www.drrind.com Future Formulations Herbal Adrenal Support Formula http://www.futureformulations.com/shop.cgi/page=faq_herbal_adrenal.html/SID= 1036020172.27696 BioMax sublingual Adrenal Cortex Extract - roughly $30 for a 1 month supply - shop the internet for the best price I've also been told Coral Calcium and electrolytes should be taken, but I don't take them myself. And I take some other vitamins too, but not for adrenal purposes. When I started the supplements I immediately started feeling better. When I started the adrenal extract I started seeing symptoms disappear. --a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 (Yes - I'm emailing on New Year's Eve - husband is playing guitar at a gig and I couldn't go cause I'm sick : ( Dr. says, " Someone who suffers from water retention may have weakened adrenal glands. Fluid retention is often a symptom of a deeper problem. Retaining excess fluid can result in weight gain (as much as 20 pounds), muscle fatigue, flu-like symptoms, high blood pressure and even stroke. Because over half of your body consists of water, maintaining a proper balance of this crucial element is essential for your health. Your daily intake and output of water is a complicated process, but even though you are losing water through urine, bowels, etc., your body is able to keep everything reasonably in balance. " How your body retains fluids: 1. The balance of fluid inside your cells and surrounding your cells is maintained by sodium and potassium. 2. Sodium and potassium levels are balanced by a hormone called aldosterone which is produced by the adrenal glands. 3. The aldosterone produced by the adrenals causes the kidneys to hold on to sodium from the urine and retain it within the body while causing the kidneys to eliminate potassium. 4. When the adrenal glands become overworked or depleted, they produce less aldosterone and sodium spills out into the urine, along with the water that is needed to hydrate the body. 5. Less aldosterone is present and the body doesn't eliminate enough potassium from inside the cells (too much potassium is dangerous and can interfere with nerve and muscle function). 6. Your body responds to this dangerous potassium situation by diluting and forcing more water into the cells (swelling), which causes fluid retention. Sugar and adrenal stress: Sugar and simple carbs (junk!) put stress on the adrenals. Your adrenal glands help regulate your blood sugar levels so you can see how eating too much refined sugar can cause bloating and water retention. I know this one first hand. Even the slightest amount of refined sweeteners causes me to gain a couple of pounds of water weight. Diuretics are not the answer here. Most diuretics work by inhibiting aldosterone, which causes further dehydration and weakening of the adrenals. More symptoms of weak adrenals: Excessive sweating or perspiration with little activity. Lower back pain and/or knee weakness or pain, especially on one side. Dark circles under the eyes. Dizziness. Muscle twitches. Low blood sugar. Heart palpitations. Sensitivity to light, difficulty seeing at night. A craving for salt (this is one sign I have had for a long time). Low stamina for stress, easy irritability. Excess mood responses after eating carbohydrates such as pasta breads and sugar. Chronic infections (bacterial, viral, fungal, yeast). Low blood pressure, lightheadedness upon standing up. Tired but wired feeling, poor sleep. Cravings for sweets/carbs, intolerance to alcohol. (I noticed I did not want carbs much after starting the adrenal and would even say that I have been satisfied with much less food). Premature aging. Dry unhealthy skin with excess pigmentation. Lack of libido. Cystic breasts. Tendency to startle easily. Responding negatively to thyroid hormone. People that are hypothyroid often produce 30-40 times the normal amount of adrenaline that normal people produce. This extra adrenal production contributes to insomnia and sometimes to a racing heart, and also the chronic fatigue syndrome. Supplementation with the adrenal can allow the system to rest for awhile. I'm still not sure if the adrenal is still needed continuously after the thyroid system becomes balanced and the adrenal glands become rested. This is an area I'm still studying and will have a lot more answers over the course of the next few months. But I do know that using raw adrenal glandular is completely safe to take, even long term. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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