Re: Fixing migraines

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Migraines, ocular migraines, headaches of any type respond very well

to chiropractic adjustments.

Headaches are always easier to fix than anything else with

adjustments.

The type of headaches that I find are the most difficult to treat

with adjustments are the kind that are affected by hormones. These

always decrease in frequency and severity, but don't get as

completely relieved as other types of headaches do with chiropractic

care.

It is also extremely important to make sure you have enough

magnesium. This could take as much as 1000mg per day. Not magnesium

oxide or stearate either. Some people try to get their magnesium

straight while they are still taking calcium. If you have a lot of

magnesium deficiency symptoms, it is better to quit taking calcium,

get enough magnesium in you, then slowly reintroduce the calcium.

You'll know you have too much calcium when it makes the magnesium

deficiency symptoms return.

, anxiety and panic attacks are a pretty classic sign that

you still need more magnesium. Mg citrate has a laxative effect. Mg

aspartate and glycinate do not. I mention this because of the IBS.

You might have to take some of citrate and some of either aspartate

or glycinate to balance out the effects on the intestines.

Whatailssteve, problems with your vestibular system, dizziness,

nausea and motion sickness scream that you need chiropractic care.

You will probably notice an improvement, possibly a major

improvement, in one or two adjustments. That doesn't mean that is

all you will need, but this usually the type of thing that is quick

to respond.

When someone has underlying problems like mercury toxicity, or any

other toxicity problem, of course that has to be dealt with too, but

the symptom of headaches (and it is always a symptom) can be greatly

relieved in the mean time.

Trudeau, D.C.

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Re: Fixing migraines

> , anxiety and panic attacks are a pretty classic sign that

> you still need more magnesium. Mg citrate has a laxative effect. Mg

> aspartate and glycinate do not. I mention this because of the IBS.

> You might have to take some of citrate and some of either aspartate

> or glycinate to balance out the effects on the intestines.

I take 1600 mg. of magnesium asporotate daily. That's the most I can

tolerate of it, without it triggering diarrhea in me, which it does when I

take more. I've been taking this amount for several years, and at first I

could only tolerate 800 mg. but was slowly able to increase the amount. I

can't tolerate magnesium citrate at all because I break out in a dotted red

rash all over my abdomen every time I've taken it. I do not tolerate

magnesium glycinate, as the glycine in it overactivates the NMDA receptors

in my brain, triggering increased autonomic dysfunction and heart

arrhythmia's in me, and increased panic attack problems, even when I only

take tiny amounts of it. Interestingly, magnesium oxide does not trigger

diarrhea in me, even at really high amounts, but I don't seem to absorb it

at all.

But I have some concerns about the asporotate, (which contains magnesium

aspartate) The problem with the asporotate/aspartates is that they can act

as a neurotoxin, increasing problems with depression and anxiety, and I am

considering switching to magnesium taurinate. I have to take capsule form,

as I can't swallow magnesium tablets, which most brands of magnesium are in

tablet form, and I recently found out that the taurinate form is available

in capsules. Since taurine is also a calming amino acid, I think that it

would be synergistic with the magnesium. (for panic attacks and migraines.)

I haven't tried it yet, though, to know how I would tolerate it.

But if the 1600 mg. of magnesium that I take isn't enough, I'm afraid I

don't know how to get more, and certainly the amount I'm taking should be

MORE than adequate, since it's almost twice the recommended amount. Aside

from doing shots, which I shudder to even consider, because of the tissue

damage they can cause, and because they are painful, I don't know how to get

any more magnesium into me. IV's are too expensive, and I doubt I'd be able

to get any of my local doctors to prescribe them, and they couldn't be done

as often as I'd need them.

Quite frankly, I don't think that magnesium is the primary culprit in panic

attacks, (or migraines, for that matter) and certainly all the reading I've

done on panic attacks, which includes a vast amount of reading research

abstracts, seems to point to other things besides magnesium, which seems to

only be an intermediate problem, and not the primary cause, and certainly

not the most effective means of dealing with panic attack issues. (or

migraines for that matter.) Certainly magnesium doesn't hurt, and may help

somewhat, but it isn't the sole treatment for either migraines or panic

attacks.

On the issue of the relationship between panic attacks and migraines, I find

it interesting after spending so much time reading through research on these

two things, since I suffer from both, that there are so many similarities

between the two. Both can cause people to see flashes of light before their

onset. (This happens to me, and is an invaluable sign that I need to take

precautions to prevent a panic attack. My migraines also occasionally occur

shortly after the onset of the panic attacks, but not every time. But the

flashes of light occur every time before I have a panic attack, and my

bioneurofeedback therapist, who treats a lot of migraine sufferers and

people with panic attacks, says that is quite common.) Both can be treated

with antidepressants. Both can be triggered by allergies or exposure to

certain foods or excess amounts of certain amino acids. Both can be

triggered by over-exertion. (especially involving anaerobic activity, or the

production of excess lactic acid) Both can be triggered by stress or

emotional issues. Both have the same excess high beta wave activity

associated with them and respond to the same type of bioneurofeedback

therapy and meditation techniques. Both seem to improve with the same types

of nutritional supplements. Both involve disordered autonomic response. Both

can be connected with heavy metal toxicity, and neurotoxins. I'm wondering

if chiropractic adjustments can help with panic attack problems, since it is

often recommended for migraines.

lindaj@...

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wrote - Both involve disordered autonomic response. Both

> can be connected with heavy metal toxicity, and neurotoxins. I'm

wondering

> if chiropractic adjustments can help with panic attack problems,

since it is

> often recommended for migraines.

Hi

From my own knowledge I have found that they are both connected to

poor blood sugar control or hypoglycemia. Eating a higher protein,

good fats and low carb diet is essential and can really help. Since

knowing this I have never had another panic attack.

The other thing hear is the adrenal issue. If the adrenals are

malfunctioning as in amalgam poisoning you could certainly get both

as I did. What has made a huge difference for me is the treatment

of my thyroid with Armour 2 grains a day and 15 mg hydrocortisone

for the adrenals. I feel better than I have for years.

Pam

[Guest guest]

anxiety and panic attacks are a pretty classic sign that

> > you still need more magnesium

>

> I take 1600 mg. of magnesium asporotate daily.

That certainly should be enough. I don't think in your case, then,

more would help.

>I am considering switching to magnesium taurinate. I have to take

>capsule form

I have purchased it in capsules from Emerson Ecologics if I recall

correctly. It does not have a laxative effect like citrate on most

people.

> Quite frankly, I don't think that magnesium is the primary culprit

in panic

> attacks, (or migraines, for that matter) and certainly all the

reading I've

> done on panic attacks, which includes a vast amount of reading

research

> abstracts, seems to point to other things besides magnesium, which

seems to

> only be an intermediate problem,

I agree. For anyone needing excessive amounts of magnesium, it is an

intermediate problem. It is just a relatively inexpensive, non-

toxic, do it yourself, symptom relief agent for a lot of people while

they are addressing the cause, which hopefully, most of the people on

this list are.

and not the primary cause, and certainly

> not the most effective means of dealing with panic attack issues.

(or

> migraines for that matter.)

It is only the most effective means of dealing with them if they are

being caused by magnesium deficiency.

Certainly magnesium doesn't hurt, and may help

> somewhat, but it isn't the sole treatment for either migraines or

panic

> attacks.

I agree again, it isn't always that simple. My comment came from my

experience with the patients I have seen with panic attacks,

migraines or anxiety. They always do better with lots of magnesium,

and the fact that you had all three pointed me in that direction, but

you have to remember these are all people who are getting

chiropractic adjustments too.

I'm wondering

> if chiropractic adjustments can help with panic attack problems,

since it is

> often recommended for migraines.

It's like the magnesium issue, if magnesium deficiency is your

problem, taking Mg will help. If pressure on your nervous system is

the cause of your problem, getting chiropractic care will help.

Toxic people are usually pretty misaligned. All I can say in your

case is that if you try it, you will know in a few weeks whether it

will help you or not.

Sometimes getting chiropractic care is an intermediate issue, just

like taking Mg. If adjustments alone could detoxify someone from

mercury, I wouldn't be here. I get lots of adjustments and I still

had a lot of mercury in me. I'm better now, but not completely, with

much help from Andy. The adjustments kept me much more comfortable

during the process, and kept me from ever having to take any drugs

for symptom relief.

Trudeau, D.C.

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, years ago I had mag IVs 3 times weekly for about 6 months,

which were very helpful, but ever since then my veins have been

extremely difficult to find for IV or phlebotomy.

I then did mag injections, loading lidocaine into syringe after the

mag. which killed the pain. I know that the tissue damage in my

glutes eventually showed up on X-rays, but I never felt any long-term

effect from that. In all, the intense mag. therapy helped me greatly.

Rennie

>

> But if the 1600 mg. of magnesium that I take isn't enough, I'm

afraid I don't know how to get more, and certainly the amount I'm

taking should be MORE than adequate, since it's almost twice the

recommended amount. Aside from doing shots, which I shudder to even

consider, because of the tissue damage they can cause, and because

they are painful, I don't know how to get any more magnesium into me.

IV's are too expensive, and I doubt I'd be able to get any of my local

doctors to prescribe them, and they couldn't be done as often as I'd

need t

[Guest guest]

> > All these symptoms are reduced (but not eliminated) by increaing

my

> > thyroid hormone dose. No doctor has been able to tell me why, or

> what

> > other drugs or hormones might work better.

>

> Make sure you are using something like armour thyroid, not levoxyl

or

> synthroid.

>

> Try the nutritional supplement petadolex.

Thanks for the ideas, Andy. Unfortuantely, I've already tried them

and they did not help. Petadolex didn't help at all, and I've found I

feel better on Synthroid/Cytomel than Armour thyroid.

Right now, the suspicion is excess water in my inner ear. The thyroid

seems to decrease that swelling slightly, helping me feel better, but

it doesn't cure the trouble. Anybody have other ideas (herbal or rx)

for reducing inner ear inflamation?

[Guest guest]

>

> Whatailssteve, problems with your vestibular system, dizziness,

> nausea and motion sickness scream that you need chiropractic care.

> You will probably notice an improvement, possibly a major

> improvement, in one or two adjustments. That doesn't mean that is

> all you will need, but this usually the type of thing that is quick

> to respond.

Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching for

solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness for

me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

[Guest guest]

What about an inner ear involvement or Menierres? (sp?) Jeanie

Re: Fixing migraines

>

> Whatailssteve, problems with your vestibular system, dizziness,

> nausea and motion sickness scream that you need chiropractic care.

> You will probably notice an improvement, possibly a major

> improvement, in one or two adjustments. That doesn't mean that is

> all you will need, but this usually the type of thing that is quick

> to respond.

Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching for

solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness for

me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

> for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

> chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching

for

> solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness

for

> me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

I would think three would be enough, unless it was very few

adjustments from three different chiropractors, but that usually

isn't the case.

For anyone else's consideration, or yours if you ever want to try

again, there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and Sweat.

Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not the

only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

Trudeau

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

> for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

> chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching

for

> solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness

for

> me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

I would think three would be enough, unless it was very few

adjustments from three different chiropractors, but that usually

isn't the case.

For anyone else's consideration, or yours if you ever want to try

again, there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and Sweat.

Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not the

only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

Trudeau

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

> for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

> chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching

for

> solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness

for

> me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

I would think three would be enough, unless it was very few

adjustments from three different chiropractors, but that usually

isn't the case.

For anyone else's consideration, or yours if you ever want to try

again, there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and Sweat.

Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not the

only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

Trudeau

[Guest guest]

I had migraines, sometimes twice a week, since about age 12. I tried

everything -- chiropractic, myofascial work, vitamins, herbs, heavy

duty prescriptions including the triptans. When I had my amalgams

removed four months ago, I did it to cure muscle pain but didn't really

hold out hope it would fix my migraines. But amazingly, they have

almost totally disappeared. Any small headaches that start now respond

to aspirin, and don't develop into migraine. Interestingly, after each

quadrant of amalgam was removed, I had a horrible migraine about 36

hours later, lasting about a day. Then, after all amalgams were

removed, no more migraines, except one which came a few hours after

eating salmon (probably high in mercury).

I suspect part of what happened for me was acupuncture meridians were

unblocked with the removal of the metal (amalgam and gold) fillings (my

new fillings are non-metalic ceramic polymers.) Certainly, the mercury

plays a big role too, but I could feel quite a bit weird electric/

magnetic stuff going on in my head during the 2 months of amalgam

removal.

Have others had such dramatic results re migraines?

>

> > Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

> > for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

> > chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching

> for

> > solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness

> for

> > me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

>

> I would think three would be enough, unless it was very few

> adjustments from three different chiropractors, but that usually

> isn't the case.

>

> For anyone else's consideration, or yours if you ever want to try

> again, there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

> suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and Sweat.

> Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

>

> I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

> food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not the

> only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

> Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

> immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

>

> Trudeau

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Whatailssteve, problems with your vestibular system, dizziness,

> > nausea and motion sickness scream that you need chiropractic

care.

> > You will probably notice an improvement, possibly a major

> > improvement, in one or two adjustments. That doesn't mean that

is

> > all you will need, but this usually the type of thing that is

quick

> > to respond.

>

> Thanks for writing, . I can understand how that might work

> for some people, but I've tried such treatments from 3 different

> chiropractors without any improvement. After 4 years of searching

for

> solutions, the only thing that has influenced the motion sickness

for

> me is the dose level of thyroid hormone.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> For anyone else's consideration, or yours if you ever want to try

> again, there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

> suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and Sweat.

> Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

Interesting. None of the chiropractors I saw told me the name(s) of

the technique(s) they were using, but generally the activity they

performed was in my neck and upper back region (sounds like UCS).

>

> I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

> food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not

the

> only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

> Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

> immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

I've tried many elimination diets, and a fast as well, and none did

anything for the motion sickness. Allergy tests show no allergies.

Post-thyroid cancer surgery, they put me on Synthroid, and for the

first month, the motion sickness was 90% gone, until it seems my body

built a tolerance for the dose.

There was something else unusual: during that same time, I had a

*huge* increase in sexual energy. It felt like I was 16 again (I'm

41). I don't think this was simply due to the relief from the motion

sickness, I suspect the Synthroid precipitated a change in other

hormone levels.

So, perhaps it's not the thyroid hormone which directly decreases my

motion sickness, bur rather it precipitates a change in *other*

hormones that do. I don't even know how to begin studying this

possibility. Suggestions welcome.

[Guest guest]

[J & J Verner] I personally react to dairy that way - feel an immediate

response in my lungs, head, etc. But my husband once had an inner ear thing

and they found that a nerve in his eye, I think, was actually jiggling

causing his symptoms. Nystagmus? Can't remember what it was called. I

have to say - esp. when I was overmedicated for thyroid libido went up a lot

too. I'm 42. Its a good thing if you are married I suppose. Possibly not

otherwise : )

>

> I've had lots of patients who get fluid in the ear as a result of

> food intolerances, dairy being the most common, but certainly not

the

> only one. I assume you have already investigated this avenue.

> Although if food sensitivities were the case with you I don't

> immediately see what the connection would be with the thyroid.

I've tried many elimination diets, and a fast as well, and none did

anything for the motion sickness. Allergy tests show no allergies.

Post-thyroid cancer surgery, they put me on Synthroid, and for the

first month, the motion sickness was 90% gone, until it seems my body

built a tolerance for the dose.

There was something else unusual: during that same time, I had a

*huge* increase in sexual energy. It felt like I was 16 again (I'm

41). I don't think this was simply due to the relief from the motion

sickness, I suspect the Synthroid precipitated a change in other

hormone levels.

So, perhaps it's not the thyroid hormone which directly decreases my

motion sickness, bur rather it precipitates a change in *other*

hormones that do. I don't even know how to begin studying this

possibility. Suggestions welcome.

[Guest guest]

wrote

[Guest guest]

there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

> > suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and

Sweat.

> > Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

>

> Interesting. None of the chiropractors I saw told me the name(s)

of

> the technique(s) they were using, but generally the activity they

> performed was in my neck and upper back region (sounds like UCS).

Usually (not always) an upper cervical specific chiropractor will

adjust ONLY the atlas, (uppermost bone in the neck, right under the

skull) and no other vertebrae. They usually let you know that what

they do is differnent from what most other chiros do, so it is

doubtful that is the type you went to. Sweat technique is also called

Atlas Orthogonality. Upper cervical specific D.C.s commonly use post

adjustment x-rays too, but not every adjustment.

I'm not claiming these techniques are better (they are better for

some things and for some people, just like other techniques). It is

just nice to know that if you've tried one type of chiropractor

without help there are about 120 different chiropractic techniques

(last time I bothered to count, which was a long time ago) and the

next time around it's good to give a different technique a try. I

give you lots of credit for trying as much as you did.

Trudeau, D.C.

[Guest guest]

> I just wanted to let others know that I have suffered with feelings

> of motion sickness for the past 20 years as a result of mercury

> poisoning. In my case the chiropractic techniques always BROUGHT

ON

> ATTACKS so I would advise people to be very careful about this.

This is a good point. Most chiropractic adjustments involve a quick

turning of the head, which, of course, could cause vertigo to get

worse. It only takes one adjustment like this to find out though.

I've found that if it does make it worse, it is only temporary.

I think it is worth trying since every patient that my husband or I

ever helped with vertigo got better with the traditional osseous

chiropractic adjustments. An osseous adjustment means the type of

adjustment that makes a popping sound and does involve short quick

movements. If this type of adjustment did make it worse, I would

just never do that type of adjustment again. Patient's spines all

have a learning curve.

Was the worsening temporary in your case?

The upper cervical specific techniques I mentioned involve NO turning

of the head at all. The patient stays in a neutral position. Most

chiropractors, even those who don't do upper cervical specific

techniques, also know at least one technique where there are no

sudden movements of the head.

I

> tried different chiropracters, osteopaths and the same thing

> happened so I would never agree to let them touch my neck now but I

> do see them from time to time for help with sciatica which is

> helpful.

Since it was probably the quick turning involved in the adjustment

(you didn't specify, I'm just making an educated guess) that

aggravates your symptoms, If I were you I would still let them adjust

my neck, just find one who uses a technique where your head stays in

a neutral position, or moves very slowly instead of quickly.

It is my opinion that the neck is far more important to be adjusted

than any other part of the spine, and the low back does much better

if the neck is adjusted too. There are just lots and lots and lots

of ways to do adjustments (some which seem like they could never work

in a million years, but they do).

Trudeau, D.C.

[Guest guest]

I had a chiropractor in Ks - actually one in VA, too, that used a popper

instead of cracking. I'm sure you know what I mean although can't think of

the name of it. (mercury in my brain you know : ) Jeanie now in AK soon

to be GA but originally from IL

Re: Fixing migraines

> I just wanted to let others know that I have suffered with feelings

> of motion sickness for the past 20 years as a result of mercury

> poisoning. In my case the chiropractic techniques always BROUGHT

ON

> ATTACKS so I would advise people to be very careful about this.

This is a good point. Most chiropractic adjustments involve a quick

turning of the head, which, of course, could cause vertigo to get

worse. It only takes one adjustment like this to find out though.

I've found that if it does make it worse, it is only temporary.

I think it is worth trying since every patient that my husband or I

ever helped with vertigo got better with the traditional osseous

chiropractic adjustments. An osseous adjustment means the type of

adjustment that makes a popping sound and does involve short quick

movements. If this type of adjustment did make it worse, I would

just never do that type of adjustment again. Patient's spines all

have a learning curve.

Was the worsening temporary in your case?

The upper cervical specific techniques I mentioned involve NO turning

of the head at all. The patient stays in a neutral position. Most

chiropractors, even those who don't do upper cervical specific

techniques, also know at least one technique where there are no

sudden movements of the head.

I

> tried different chiropracters, osteopaths and the same thing

> happened so I would never agree to let them touch my neck now but I

> do see them from time to time for help with sciatica which is

> helpful.

Since it was probably the quick turning involved in the adjustment

(you didn't specify, I'm just making an educated guess) that

aggravates your symptoms, If I were you I would still let them adjust

my neck, just find one who uses a technique where your head stays in

a neutral position, or moves very slowly instead of quickly.

It is my opinion that the neck is far more important to be adjusted

than any other part of the spine, and the low back does much better

if the neck is adjusted too. There are just lots and lots and lots

of ways to do adjustments (some which seem like they could never work

in a million years, but they do).

Trudeau, D.C.

[Guest guest]

[Jeanie Verner] I was just thinking tonight that with my structural

problems (mild s curve scoliosis with a pelvic obliquity and 2 post

traumatic bad discs - TMJ, etc.) Pilates sure helps when I do it. Helps

strengthen those core muscles which makes a huge difference with posture.

Just thought I'd mention it. Jeanie (I have a machine I got off QVC - a

cheaper version of the expensive one)

there are several chiropractic techniques that are uniquely

> > suited to handling vestibular problems, NUCCA, Grostic, and

Sweat.

> > Any of these are also referred to as Upper Cervical Specific.

>

> Interesting. None of the chiropractors I saw told me the name(s)

of

> the technique(s) they were using, but generally the activity they

> performed was in my neck and upper back region (sounds like UCS).

Usually (not always) an upper cervical specific chiropractor will

adjust ONLY the atlas, (uppermost bone in the neck, right under the

skull) and no other vertebrae. They usually let you know that what

they do is differnent from what most other chiros do, so it is

doubtful that is the type you went to. Sweat technique is also called

Atlas Orthogonality. Upper cervical specific D.C.s commonly use post

adjustment x-rays too, but not every adjustment.

I'm not claiming these techniques are better (they are better for

some things and for some people, just like other techniques). It is

just nice to know that if you've tried one type of chiropractor

without help there are about 120 different chiropractic techniques

(last time I bothered to count, which was a long time ago) and the

next time around it's good to give a different technique a try. I

give you lots of credit for trying as much as you did.

Trudeau, D.C.

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

It's called low force technique. They use a little thump thump device

around the vertebrae.

I learned how to fix my migraines on a multiple chemical sensitivity

website. I learned that they are usually from some kind of airborne exposure

such as chemicals and dyes at Walmart or cigarette smoke or perfume. If I feel

a migraine coming on and I know or suspect that I've been exposed, I come home

and take a 1/2 teaspoon to one teaspoon of vitamin C powder in a glass of water.

The vitamin C binds to the foreign or invader chemicals in the body and with the

water it flushes them out. Then take off the clothes that are contaminated and

shower and skin brush right away to detox the chemicals through the skin. Put

on fresh clothes and by the time you're out of the shower, the migraine will be

gone. If I don't do this, the migraine sets in big time! The only time this

doesn't work is if the migraine is being caused by a virus. In my case, I've

found that these are the causes of the migraines, and not stress.

Celeste

Re: Fixing migraines

> I just wanted to let others know that I have suffered with feelings

> of motion sickness for the past 20 years as a result of mercury

> poisoning. In my case the chiropractic techniques always BROUGHT

ON

> ATTACKS so I would advise people to be very careful about this.

This is a good point. Most chiropractic adjustments involve a quick

turning of the head, which, of course, could cause vertigo to get

worse. It only takes one adjustment like this to find out though.

I've found that if it does make it worse, it is only temporary.

I think it is worth trying since every patient that my husband or I

ever helped with vertigo got better with the traditional osseous

chiropractic adjustments. An osseous adjustment means the type of

adjustment that makes a popping sound and does involve short quick

movements. If this type of adjustment did make it worse, I would

just never do that type of adjustment again. Patient's spines all

have a learning curve.

Was the worsening temporary in your case?

The upper cervical specific techniques I mentioned involve NO turning

of the head at all. The patient stays in a neutral position. Most

chiropractors, even those who don't do upper cervical specific

techniques, also know at least one technique where there are no

sudden movements of the head.

I

> tried different chiropracters, osteopaths and the same thing

> happened so I would never agree to let them touch my neck now but I

> do see them from time to time for help with sciatica which is

> helpful.

Since it was probably the quick turning involved in the adjustment

(you didn't specify, I'm just making an educated guess) that

aggravates your symptoms, If I were you I would still let them adjust

my neck, just find one who uses a technique where your head stays in

a neutral position, or moves very slowly instead of quickly.

It is my opinion that the neck is far more important to be adjusted

than any other part of the spine, and the low back does much better

if the neck is adjusted too. There are just lots and lots and lots

of ways to do adjustments (some which seem like they could never work

in a million years, but they do).

Trudeau, D.C.