Re: Campfire Goodies for the Kids

[Guest guest]

> Donut Holes made on the grill

>

OMG I remember this from summer camp as a kid, it is SOOO GOOOD (worth a bs

point or two ;-)

[Guest guest]

These sound good, but totally inappropriate for diabetics.

[alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

As an avid camper, I am always looking for treats for the kids. My dear

friend sent this, and I wanted to share it with you. I know it

is not a

diabetic treat, but our kids may not have the restrictions we do. Hugs,

marilyn

Donut Holes made on the grill

Kalene Berte

Cut refrigerated biscuits (from a tube) in thirds; roll each piece into

a

ball. String on skewers, leaving about 1/2 " between balls. Brown over

hot

coals, turning constantly until browned and completely done, about 7

minutes. Push off skewers into melted butter; roll in cinnamon-sugar

mixture. Serve at once.

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Cake Kabobs

Kalene Berte

Cut pound cake or angel food cake in 1-1/2 " cubes. Spear each on fork

and

dip in melted currant jelly; then roll in flaked coconut to cover.

String on

skewers and toast over very hot coals, turning often.

Or dip cubes of angel food or pound cake in sweetened condensed milk, or

in

a mixture of 1/2 cup honey and 1 tablespoon lemon juice. Roll in flaked

coconut, string on skewers and toast as above.

[Guest guest]

> These sound good, but totally inappropriate for diabetics.

>

>

I think Marilyn covered that in her message with this comment:

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>

[Guest guest]

> Diabetes is frequently hereditary; therefore, children in diabetic families

> should be taught about proper nutrition from the beginning.  If they are

> allowed to develop a taste for sweets, it will be that much harder for them to

> change their diet later when they are diagnosed; if they are kept from

> becoming overweight--which restricting their intake of non-nutrative calories

will

> do a great deal towards--it is very likely that they will develop diabetes

> much later, or not at all.  Furthermore, preparing one set of meals for the

> diabetic members of the family and another for the nondiabetic members

increases

> the stress on whoever does the family's cooking.  Far better for the

> nondiabetic members to learn to eat the same things that the diabetic members

must.

>

OK now that you explained yourself, that makes a lot of sense. That is how

things are in our house because my husband is this side of type two, Im a type

one, so Im trying to watch it with our son. Your original reply didnt clarify

what you meant.

[Guest guest]

Diabetes is frequently hereditary; therefore, children in diabetic families

should be taught about proper nutrition from the beginning. If they are allowed

to develop a taste for sweets, it will be that much harder for them to change

their diet later when they are diagnosed; if they are kept from becoming

overweight--which restricting their intake of non-nutrative calories will do a

great deal towards--it is very likely that they will develop diabetes much

later, or not at all. Furthermore, preparing one set of meals for the diabetic

members of the family and another for the nondiabetic members increases the

stress on whoever does the family's cooking. Far better for the nondiabetic

members to learn to eat the same things that the diabetic members must.

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

These sound good, but totally inappropriate for diabetics.

I think Marilyn covered that in her message with this comment:

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am new here. I do not have diabetes, but have a 7 year old daughter

with type 1 diabetes. I am very knowledgeable about the disease and would

like to help whoever ma be confused. I do not want to offend anybody here,

but the short time I have been lurking on this list there have been a lot

of misinformation shared. One that hit me was this thread. There is NO

reason why a person with diabetes (type 1 or type 2, child or adult) can't

have one of these treats as long as it is within reason and at the right

time of day if you are on injections. My daughter is on an insulin pump

and can eat anything she wants. It works like a real pancreas (or as close

to it as possible). I agree that all children should limit their sugar

intake, etc. but not to the point of not being a kid.

Missi Cahill

Mom to , 7 years old, dxd at 18 months, pumping at 3 years old

Also Mom to Tabatha (21), (19), (19) and (15)

Mom-in-law to Jarrett (22) and Missa to Kai-Lynn (2)

At 02:55 PM 8/9/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>

> > Diabetes is frequently hereditary; therefore, children in diabetic

> families

> > should be taught about proper nutrition from the beginning. If they are

> > allowed to develop a taste for sweets, it will be that much harder for

> them to

> > change their diet later when they are diagnosed; if they are kept from

> > becoming overweight--which restricting their intake of non-nutrative

> calories will

> > do a great deal towards--it is very likely that they will develop diabetes

> > much later, or not at all. Furthermore, preparing one set of meals for

> the

> > diabetic members of the family and another for the nondiabetic members

> increases

> > the stress on whoever does the family's cooking. Far better for the

> > nondiabetic members to learn to eat the same things that the diabetic

> members must.

> >

>

>OK now that you explained yourself, that makes a lot of sense. That is how

>things are in our house because my husband is this side of type two, Im a

>type

>one, so Im trying to watch it with our son. Your original reply didnt clarify

>what you meant.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:52:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

These sound good, but totally inappropriate for diabetics.

Hi Bruce, that is probably why I said they were not for the diabetics, but

their families without the problems. Just because we are so encumbered, doesn't

mean the family has to go without, right? :-) Hugs, Marilyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/9/2004 11:44:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

Diabetes is frequently hereditary; therefore, children in diabetic families

should be taught about proper nutrition from the beginning. If they are

allowed to develop a taste for sweets, it will be that much harder for them to

change their diet later when they are diagnosed; if they are kept from becoming

overweight--which restricting their intake of non-nutrative calories will do a

great deal towards--it is very likely that they will develop diabetes much

later, or not at all. Furthermore, preparing one set of meals for the diabetic

members of the family and another for the nondiabetic members increases the

stress on whoever does the family's cooking. Far better for the nondiabetic

members to learn to eat the same things that the diabetic members must.

Hi Bruce, you make a point here that can be taken to the extreme. Children

may develop diabetes. Or they may not. Your philosophy is the same as saying

" don't get married, the divorce rate is high " or " don't get in a car,

sometimes there are wrecks " . Life is a precious comodity, never to be wasted.

Unless there is a specific reason )obesity or an abnormal glucose count) why on

earth would you withhold normal food from a child or anyone else? It just does

not make sense. You appear to be defeated by your disease, and want to make

sure no one else enjoys life. I hope sincerely this is not the case, but ask

you to lighten up on those of us who still live for our families pleasure.

Hugs, Marilyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/9/2004 2:13:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mcahill@... writes:

I do not want to offend anybody here,

but the short time I have been lurking on this list there have been a lot

of misinformation shared. One that hit me was this thread. There is NO

reason why a person with diabetes (type 1 or type 2, child or adult) can't

have one of these treats as long as it is within reason and at the right

time of day if you are on injections. My daughter is on an insulin pump

and can eat anything she wants. It works like a real pancreas (or as close

to it as possible). I agree that all children should limit their sugar

intake, etc. but not to the point of not being a kid.

Missi Cahill

>>>>>Hi Missi, I am glad you wrote, and even happier that your daughter is

able to be a " kid " . Kids should love life, live it to its fullest! I know we

need to be careful with our childrens diets, diabetic or not, but the point of

restricting them that is requested here is rediculous. I am not saying " let

them eat the whole bowl of halloween candy " , but let them trick or treat, have

the fun. Maybe they can make a few choices to keep and be eaten carefully,

but not letting them have fun and be silly and do the things other kids do is

just plain not fair ;-) I am so glad your daughter is on the pump, wish it were

available for all people who need it. Sounds like a winner to me ;-) Hugs,

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your understanding. I was afraid that the group would run me

off after this my first post. I have learned a lot about diabetes in the

last 5.5 years. And WOW is there a lot left to learn.

Missi

At 01:57 AM 8/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 8/9/2004 2:13:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>mcahill@... writes:

>I do not want to offend anybody here,

>but the short time I have been lurking on this list there have been a lot

>of misinformation shared. One that hit me was this thread. There is NO

>reason why a person with diabetes (type 1 or type 2, child or adult) can't

>have one of these treats as long as it is within reason and at the right

>time of day if you are on injections. My daughter is on an insulin pump

>and can eat anything she wants. It works like a real pancreas (or as close

>to it as possible). I agree that all children should limit their sugar

>intake, etc. but not to the point of not being a kid.

>

>Missi Cahill

>

> >>>>>Hi Missi, I am glad you wrote, and even happier that your daughter is

>able to be a " kid " . Kids should love life, live it to its fullest! I

>know we

>need to be careful with our childrens diets, diabetic or not, but the

>point of

>restricting them that is requested here is rediculous. I am not saying " let

>them eat the whole bowl of halloween candy " , but let them trick or treat,

>have

>the fun. Maybe they can make a few choices to keep and be eaten carefully,

>but not letting them have fun and be silly and do the things other kids do is

>just plain not fair ;-) I am so glad your daughter is on the pump, wish

>it were

>available for all people who need it. Sounds like a winner to me ;-) Hugs,

>Marilyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

[, Bruce] So whoever does the cooking in the family has to make

two meals, one for the diabetic members of the family and one for the

nondiabetic members? That's a lot of extra work, isn't it? And also,

waiving those delicious but forbidden foods under the noses of the

diabetic members sounds an awefully lot like torture.

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:52:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

Just because we are so encumbered, doesn't

mean the family has to go without, right? :-) Hugs, Marilyn

[Guest guest]

I cook the same food for my child with diabetes that I do the rest of the

family. Every person I know with diabetes (and I know a bunch of people)

eat normal, regular, everyday food! Why do you feel you must not eat normal???

Missi

At 09:20 AM 8/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>[, Bruce] So whoever does the cooking in the family has to make

>two meals, one for the diabetic members of the family and one for the

>nondiabetic members? That's a lot of extra work, isn't it? And also,

>waiving those delicious but forbidden foods under the noses of the

>diabetic members sounds an awefully lot like torture.

>

[Guest guest]

Because what most nondiabetics eat, at least around here, is things like

rice, pasta, bread, fried foods, potatoes, sweets, and other things that

send the blood sugar through the roof, that's why. I prefer, rather

than eating things that send my BS up and then taking drugs to bring it

back down, to avoid the things that send it up in the first place.

RE: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

I cook the same food for my child with diabetes that I do the rest of

the

family. Every person I know with diabetes (and I know a bunch of

people)

eat normal, regular, everyday food! Why do you feel you must not eat

normal???

Missi

[Guest guest]

>   Maybe they can make a few choices to keep and be eaten carefully,

> but not letting them have fun and be silly and do the things other kids do

> is

> just plain not fair ;-)  I am so glad your daughter is on the pump, wish it

> were

> available for all people who need it.  Sounds like a winner to me ;-)  Hugs,

>

Also, now that Im thinking about it. maybe the most important thing with kids

and " bad " foods is to teach them moderation. Then it doesnt become such a

" forbidden fruit " . Just a thought

[Guest guest]

>   And also,

> waiving those delicious but forbidden foods under the noses o

>

I think that depends a lot on the person. Maybe food was just never my thing,

but I have no problems when my husband eats sugary carby stuff in front of

me. i know if I reallllyyy have to get it, I can always take a shot. Personally

im not bothered by it.

[Guest guest]

Yes, that is one advantage of being on injected insulin; those of us who are

attempting to control with diet/exercise alone, however, are in a very different

situation.

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

i know if I reallllyyy have to get it, I can always take a shot.

[Guest guest]

> Yes, that is one advantage of being on injected insulin; those of us who

> are attempting to control with diet/exercise alone, however, are in a very

> different situation.

>

>

Couldnt you modify your exercise routine to cover one smore, especially if

camping, such as taking a extra walk around the lake etc..?

[Guest guest]

I could, but to cover that many extra carbs 'an extra walk around the

lake' wouldn't do it. I'd have to do something that would get me in a

real sweat, like go rollerblading.

[, Bruce] Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

Couldnt you modify your exercise routine to cover one smore, especially

if

camping, such as taking a extra walk around the lake etc..?

[Guest guest]

I could, but to cover that many extra carbs 'an extra walk around the

lake' wouldn't do it. I'd have to do something that would get me in a

real sweat, like go rollerblading.

[, Bruce] Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

Couldnt you modify your exercise routine to cover one smore, especially

if

camping, such as taking a extra walk around the lake etc..?

[Guest guest]

I could, but to cover that many extra carbs 'an extra walk around the

lake' wouldn't do it. I'd have to do something that would get me in a

real sweat, like go rollerblading.

[, Bruce] Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Campfire Goodies for the Kids

Couldnt you modify your exercise routine to cover one smore, especially

if

camping, such as taking a extra walk around the lake etc..?

[Guest guest]

> I could, but to cover that many extra carbs 'an extra walk around the

> lake' wouldn't do it.  I'd have to do something that would get me in a

> real sweat, like go rollerblading.

>

>

For 2 grahams, 1 marshmellow and a little chocolate, or even leave off the

chocolate. The point being, if a type 2 diabetic really wants a little treat

like that, even on diet and exercise, they can have it IF they take care of

themselves and burn it off. Or an insulin dependant takes a little more insulin.