Re: Mercury Chelation

[Guest guest]

Amen to this post!

I'd like to add that when I began questioning mercury fillings,

dentists spoke to me in a very patronizing manner about their safety,

about removing them being difficult, about the replacement materials

being inferior, etc. I found a dentist willing to listen, who

preferred the newer filling materials, and who worked with our dental

insurance policy to come up with a very reasonable cost. He had my

son visit the office, sit in the chair, play with the tools, get

acquainted, etc., at no charge, before starting the procedure.

My son couldn't tolerate the rubber dam in his mouth (to stop amalgam

pieces from being swallowed), so the dentist & aide did their best to

avoid that problem with suction, and our doctor had Ian take Chemet

to chelate any swallowed mercury. He had no bad effects; in fact, he

began calming down within a couple of days.

Amalgam removal just doesn't have to be the difficult, expensive

procedure that some dentists present.

> Cathy,

> I can't find your post but I want to respond. You don't need to

have

> your son's teeth pulled to rid him of amalgams. All you need to do

> is have them re-filled with an amalgam free filling. There is a

list

> of amalgam free dentists on the web (several, in fact). I know

there

> will be one in your area. If interested, e-mail me and I'll dig up

> the site for you. They use special precautions to make sure none

is

> swallowed during the procedure. I'm told it's not a big deal.

> Once it's done, you can start chelating. Chelating can be done

> during the diet. My feeling is that mercury toxicity is

> BAD...whether it causes PDD, SID, or no symptoms at all. I feel,

> that even if my son does not have a full recovery when all is said

> and done, that I have still improved his physical health and may

have

> prevented some serious illness down the road. And there is that

hope

> that it will clear up enough of his problem that it gives him a

> better quality of life. I asked myself, how could I deny him this

> chance?

> All the best,

>

[Guest guest]

Amen to this post!

I'd like to add that when I began questioning mercury fillings,

dentists spoke to me in a very patronizing manner about their safety,

about removing them being difficult, about the replacement materials

being inferior, etc. I found a dentist willing to listen, who

preferred the newer filling materials, and who worked with our dental

insurance policy to come up with a very reasonable cost. He had my

son visit the office, sit in the chair, play with the tools, get

acquainted, etc., at no charge, before starting the procedure.

My son couldn't tolerate the rubber dam in his mouth (to stop amalgam

pieces from being swallowed), so the dentist & aide did their best to

avoid that problem with suction, and our doctor had Ian take Chemet

to chelate any swallowed mercury. He had no bad effects; in fact, he

began calming down within a couple of days.

Amalgam removal just doesn't have to be the difficult, expensive

procedure that some dentists present.

> Cathy,

> I can't find your post but I want to respond. You don't need to

have

> your son's teeth pulled to rid him of amalgams. All you need to do

> is have them re-filled with an amalgam free filling. There is a

list

> of amalgam free dentists on the web (several, in fact). I know

there

> will be one in your area. If interested, e-mail me and I'll dig up

> the site for you. They use special precautions to make sure none

is

> swallowed during the procedure. I'm told it's not a big deal.

> Once it's done, you can start chelating. Chelating can be done

> during the diet. My feeling is that mercury toxicity is

> BAD...whether it causes PDD, SID, or no symptoms at all. I feel,

> that even if my son does not have a full recovery when all is said

> and done, that I have still improved his physical health and may

have

> prevented some serious illness down the road. And there is that

hope

> that it will clear up enough of his problem that it gives him a

> better quality of life. I asked myself, how could I deny him this

> chance?

> All the best,

>

[Guest guest]

> Can someone explain to me the differences between oral chelation and

IV chelation, or point me to an URL that discusses this. Besides

the obvious pill vs liquid. I'm not finding much info online about

why one is chosen over the other, which might be best, which might be

quickest, etc. Thank you

Hello DarqFire,

IV chelation is done in " one big shot " --- and

usually a large dose -- of chelation agent. This can be

dangerous. Here is a site devoted to the dangers of DMPS

IV chelation:

http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml

IV chelation is also expensive, as you need to pay for the

IV. It is usually done with DPMS, which is MUCH more

expensive than DMSA or ALA -- this also is a reason it is

expensive. EDTA is not an effective chelator of mercury

or lead [it is also used for IV chelation.]

Regarding oral chelation, you can read about Andy's protocol

[one of many possible protocols]. Andy's protocol is very

low dose, and with the doses frequently, in order to keep

a steady [or somewhat steady] level of the chelation agent

in the bloodstream. If you DON'T do this it can result in

mercury redistribution, and many people respond poorly.

There are many protocols that do not do it this way.

Here is information on this, in detail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/ANDY_INDEX

Look for the section about CHELATION DOSE AND DOSE SCHEDULE

and another setion about KEEPING A STEADY BLOODSTREAM LEVEL

OF CHELATION AGENTS AND " BAD " PROTOCOLS. This will fill you

in on this protocol.

With oral chelation you will probably have a wider choice

of chelation agents. Alpha lipoic acid, for example, is available

all over, is sold OTC freely, and is very inexpensive. I chelated

for 1.5 years and probably spent around $100 for the ALA for the

entire period.

I also do not much fancy the idea of IVs.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

See www.dmpsbackfire for why you don't want to do iv chelation with

DMPS for mercury.

EDTA isn't good for mercury.

See the " files " section of the autism-mercury listserver for a

discussion of what is important between protocols.

Andy . .. . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .

> Can someone explain to me the differences between oral chelation and

IV chelation, or point me to an URL that discusses this. Besides

the obvious pill vs liquid. I'm not finding much info online about

why one is chosen over the other, which might be best, which might be

quickest, etc. Thank you

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been re

[Guest guest]

> > Can someone explain to me the differences between oral chelation

and

> IV chelation, or point me to an URL that discusses this. Besides

> the obvious pill vs liquid. I'm not finding much info online about

> why one is chosen over the other, which might be best, which might

be

> quickest, etc. Thank you

>

> Hello DarqFire,

>

> IV chelation is done in " one big shot " --- and

> usually a large dose -- of chelation agent. This can be dangerous.

Here

> is a site devoted to the dangers of DMPS IV chelation:

> http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml

>

> IV chelation is also expensive, as you need to pay for the

> IV. It is usually done with DPMS, which is MUCH more

> expensive than DMSA or ALA -- this also is a reason it is expensive.

> EDTA is not an effective chelator of mercury or lead [it is also

used

> for IV chelation.]

>

> Regarding oral chelation, you can read about Andy's protocol [one of

> many possible protocols]. Andy's protocol is very low dose, and

with

> the doses frequently, in order to keep a steady [or somewhat steady]

> level of the chelation agent in the bloodstream. If you DON'T do

this

> it can result in mercury redistribution, and many people respond

poorly.

> There are many protocols that do not do it this way. Here is

information

> on this, in detail:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/ANDY_INDEX

> Look for the section about CHELATION DOSE AND DOSE SCHEDULE

> and another setion about KEEPING A STEADY BLOODSTREAM LEVEL

> OF CHELATION AGENTS AND " BAD " PROTOCOLS. This will fill you

> in on this protocol.

>

> With oral chelation you will probably have a wider choice

> of chelation agents. Alpha lipoic acid, for example, is available

> all over, is sold OTC freely, and is very inexpensive. I chelated

> for 1.5 years and probably spent around $100 for the ALA for the

entire

> period.

>

> I also do not much fancy the idea of IVs.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning Glen,

> This is a very one sided explanation, having mentioned possible

> downsides of DMPS treatment without saying anything about the

thousands

> and thousands of people who have had brain damage from using ALA

Actually, I do not think that DMPS treatment in inherently

dangerous. It is using it in one large dose rather than in

small timed doses [8 hours apart for DMPS] which is the

problem. DMPS injections are simply an extreme example of using

a chelation agent in a risky manner. It is also true that use of

DMSA or ALA in a similar fashion is also risky, and I would advise

that ALA or DMSA injections are dangerous if anyone asked me.

I addressed DMPS mostly, with a short mention of EDTA, because

these are the 2 agents that I have heard of being used in this

manner.

> (especially using Perricone).

I don't know what this is.

> I for one have never been harmed by

using

> DMPS IV's (40 IV's so far)

I'm aware that there are many people who get them without incident.

> but, have been harmed using Andy's

protocol,

> I still have damage to my right eye to remind me.

Thanks for writing us about it. I will be very interested

to learn more -- such as the answers to the questions Andy

asked. I am always interested in ANYONE's negative effects,

and am especially interested in hearing about negative effects

from Andy's protocol. I have not heard many, so they are

especially valuable to me.

> You also didn't

> mention that the damage by ALA and DMSA is likely to involve the

brain.

> DMPS does not cross the BBB, but ALA and DMSA do.

There is both more risk and more opportunity in using ALA because

it crosses the BBB. The material I referred to [ANDY_INDEX]

does cover this, although it is true that I would like to have

a great deal more detail on this [and many other things]

in this index. It is quite important to use ALA **because**

it crosses the BBB. It is also important to use it with

caution [in a safe manner].

While I think you are incorrect about DMSA crossing the BBB,

arguments on the subject tend to be terribly tedious.

Anyone interested can read some of the debate from prior

occasssions in ANDY_INDEX [in the section on DMSA].

> I've noticed some

> statement here over the last couple of days regarding how people are

> feeling while taking DMSA. People don't seem to be aware of the

fact

> that all chelators chelate more than the heavy metals they are

trying to

> get out of their bodies. They clearly aren't replacing the lost

> nutrients. When having DMPS treatment (IV) on Monday, I get an IV

of

> minerals and vitamins the following Wednesday to replace what is

lost,

> otherwise I would be feeling VERY tired. There is no replacement

for

> going to an experienced chelating doctor and getting the correct

> treatment for Mercury poisoning.

There is no replacement for the correct treatment. Period.

There is controversy and contention as to what the correct

treatment is. If, in fact, there is a " correct treatment "

then I believe it follows that there are many doctors from

whom you will not get it [whatever it is], since there are

doctors using a very very wide range of treatments, from

IV DMPS to homeopathy to NDF.....

> Yes it does cost more, but doing

it by

> yourself from a book etc you stand the chance of getting brain

damage

> etc.

Brain damage is a result of doing things that can cause

brain damage. It does not matter where you learned them.

You could get them from a doctor, from the internet, from

a book, from your neighbor, etc. Likewise, it does not

matter whether your methods are free or cost millions.

Neither money nor degrees are actually involved.

best wishes,

Moria

>

> Regards, Glen.

>

> Re: Mercury Chelation

>

>

>

> > Can someone explain to me the differences between oral chelation

and

> IV chelation, or point me to an URL that discusses this. Besides

> the obvious pill vs liquid. I'm not finding much info online about

> why one is chosen over the other, which might be best, which might

be

> quickest, etc. Thank you

>

> Hello DarqFire,

>

> IV chelation is done in " one big shot " --- and

> usually a large dose -- of chelation agent. This can be dangerous.

Here

> is a site devoted to the dangers of DMPS IV chelation:

> http://www.dmpsbackfire.com/default.shtml

>

> IV chelation is also expensive, as you need to pay for the

> IV. It is usually done with DPMS, which is MUCH more

> expensive than DMSA or ALA -- this also is a reason it is expensive.

> EDTA is not an effective chelator of mercury or lead [it is also

used

> for IV chelation.]

>

> Regarding oral chelation, you can read about Andy's protocol [one of

> many possible protocols]. Andy's protocol is very low dose, and

with

> the doses frequently, in order to keep a steady [or somewhat steady]

> level of the chelation agent in the bloodstream. If you DON'T do

this

> it can result in mercury redistribution, and many people respond

poorly.

> There are many protocols that do not do it this way. Here is

information

> on this, in detail:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/ANDY_INDEX

> Look for the section about CHELATION DOSE AND DOSE SCHEDULE

> and another setion about KEEPING A STEADY BLOODSTREAM LEVEL

> OF CHELATION AGENTS AND " BAD " PROTOCOLS. This will fill you

> in on this protocol.

>

> With oral chelation you will probably have a wider choice

> of chelation agents. Alpha lipoic acid, for example, is available

> all over, is sold OTC freely, and is very inexpensive. I chelated

> for 1.5 years and probably spent around $100 for the ALA for the

entire

> period.

>

> I also do not much fancy the idea of IVs.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

[Guest guest]

> You also didn't

> mention that the damage by ALA and DMSA is likely to involve the brain.

DOH

> I've noticed some

> statement here over the last couple of days regarding how people are

> feeling while taking DMSA. People don't seem to be aware of the fact

> that all chelators chelate more than the heavy metals they are trying to

> get out of their bodies. They clearly aren't replacing the lost

> nutrients.

I can't possibly figure out how you got that conclusion. Actually I do

replace them, but you don't seem to be aware of some other thing. The body is

using those nutrients for the chelation process. It's not the chelators

themselves who pull out the nutrients (at least I don't think so). It's the

fact that the body needs a lot of nutrients for fighting oxidative stress

(which happens A LOT during chelation). It doesn't matter what kind of

chelation.

> There is no replacement for

> going to an experienced chelating doctor and getting the correct

> treatment for Mercury poisoning.

Obviously you must not be a member of the autism-mercury group. You would

hear there about many parents who went to experienced doctors and their kids

got worse.

Also, I am doing chelation by myself, Andy protocol, and both me and my son

are doing great. Never been to a doctor. So I guess there is a replacement

for going to an " experienced chelating doctor " .

> Yes it does cost more, but doing it by

> yourself from a book etc you stand the chance of getting brain damage

> etc.

LOL!! Come on..... You mean by going to a doctor you don't stand the same

" chance " ? I would say that you have a lot more chances to have that happening

if you choose to let an " experienced doctor " take care of it. Let's not

forget that the same doctors got us brain damaged.

There is another way. You can learn to think for yourself and then it gets

incredibly easy. And safe. I'm not saying you're not thinking for yourself if

you're going to a doctor to do chelation. But I'm saying it's easy to

chelate, observe, read to educate yourself, do the thing that's right for

you, by yourself. A lot of people do it.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Hi Glen,

I'd really like to know what chelation agent(s), dose(s)

and timing you were using. And more about what happened.

You are welcome to use this format, it includes a lot of

detail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/Survey_directions

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/Survey_form

> I've spoken to quite a few people that have ended up brain

damaged

> by Dr Perricone's protocol for wrinkles, I guess he never took

mercury

> poisoning into consideration or even knew ALA chelated mercury.

So, what is Perricon's protocol for wrinkles?

Let me guess: take ALA less often than every 3 hours.

LOTS of people use ALA once a day or randomly.

I think it is generally unusual for people to realize it

chelates mercury, and far more exotic yet for anyone to think

they need to take it every 3 hours.

It is quite a problem, since people recommend and prescribe it

all over the place.......

Also, since I took pretty large amounts of ALA (every 3 hours

when I was " on " ), should I have less wrinkles now?

I've seen some topical ALA cremes--- I've got lots of ALA around

so I thought maybe I'd try that too... mix some into face cremes....

(the commercial cremes with ALA seem overpriced to me.)

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> I really think you need to learn allot more. When you get DMPS

> treatment one of the things you do at the beginning is take a 24

hour

> urine test, you send it to the lab (in my case Doctors data) and

they

> tell you the amounts of Mercury, lead, arsenic, uranium etc, etc

that

> came out in your urine. TOGETHER with the amount of Selenium

Magnesium,

> potassium, zinc etc etc that is chelated out. Then, when and if

you

> have heavy metal poisoning, you only have (in my case) the mercury

> tested for and then only every 3rd DMPS treatment, to save money on

> testing.

I have read quite a number of posts from parents who test urine

and/or poop on an ongoing basis, and who report that the metals

coming out CHANGE over time. For example, high tin for many

rounds then high mercury.... or " whatever " .

> One thing I did recently now that I have most of the mercury from my

> system, was to test DMPS excretion against ALA excretion. The

results

> were DMPS 9.5ug/l of mercury after a 24 hour urine test as opposed

to

> ALA, 0.9ug/l after 24 hour urine test using 100mg every 4 hours for

3

> days. Based on this result it would take me 15 years to chelate

with

> ALA or 400 * Andy's protocol.

Apparently you are not aware that ALA use results in most of

the mercury excretion in feces rather than urine. Poop is

rather difficult to test quantitatively, as I understand it.

regards,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> My Daily Supplements:

>

> 2000 mg Vit C

> 1200 mg Calcium

> 1800 mg Garlic

> 4500 mg Chlorella

> 1/2 teasp Cilantro Concentrate

for the record, or in case anyone cares:

garlic, cholrella, and cilantro may all cause negative effects

in mercury toxic people. chlorella in particular is extremely

dangerous.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> for the record, or in case anyone cares:

> garlic, cholrella, and cilantro may all cause negative effects

> in mercury toxic people. chlorella in particular is extremely

> dangerous.

Why can garlic be dangerous? It's high in sulfur, as are chelators

like DMSA.

[Guest guest]

> for the record, or in case anyone cares:

> garlic, cholrella, and cilantro may all cause negative effects

> in mercury toxic people. chlorella in particular is extremely

> dangerous.

Why can garlic be dangerous? It's high in sulfur, as are chelators

like DMSA.

[Guest guest]

> for the record, or in case anyone cares:

> garlic, cholrella, and cilantro may all cause negative effects

> in mercury toxic people. chlorella in particular is extremely

> dangerous.

Why can garlic be dangerous? It's high in sulfur, as are chelators

like DMSA.

[Guest guest]

>

> > for the record, or in case anyone cares:

> > garlic, cholrella, and cilantro may all cause negative effects

> > in mercury toxic people. chlorella in particular is extremely

> > dangerous.

>

>

> Why can garlic be dangerous? It's high in sulfur, as are chelators

> like DMSA.

Dangerous may be a bit too strong a word.

Many people who are mercury toxic have messed-up sulfur

chemistry. However, it is messed up in different ways.

Not all the same. Some have high sulfur levels and need

to AVOID eating sulfury stuff and avoid sulfury supplements.

When taking ALA, they will do better on a very low sulfur

diet (since ALA is sulfury). Other people have low levels

of sulfur and need to eat MORE and take supplements (like NAC).

Garlic is one of many sulfury foods. For those who can eat

it, its great. It is antiviral, antibacterial, and wards off

vampires

You can read more about the sulfur issues, if you wish, here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/ANDY_INDEX

Look for the section about " sulfur and thiols " .

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> I just read the Mercola article and he advises using chlorella and

cilantro in ADDITION to DMPS because they help mobilize and absorb the

mercury. I don't think using them without a real chelator is a very

safe idea.

>

well, my opinion, not that anyone likely cares is that

chlorella is dangerous IN ANY CASE, and that cilantro very

well may BE a " real " chelator, and therefore should be used

with extreme caution (as all real chelators). I've used

it myself, but do not recommend it to others unless they

have detailed knowledge of things, and even then I would

not " recommend " it.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> If you'd read my other posts you would know that I am taking

>IV DMPS along with the supplements and doing so with a doctor

>that is highly trained and has been doing this for several years.

>I am NOT self-medicating myself like alot of people do.

Yes, the religious question of whether it is evilly apostate to do

something for yourself that actually works and makes you better is OK

even when it doesn't involve letting a D O C T O R do unpleasant and

dangerous procedures to you does seem to be at the heart of the

mercury debate.

Personally I view even considering it an issue to be a severe mental

illness, though one it is not surprising that MD's aren't willing to

diagnose. Think of what they would say about those people who can't

go to sleep unless their Mommy or her duly delegated representative

tucks them in at night!

I'm sure a lot of people on the list are more interested in which

therapies work and which don't than whether someone got them from a

* * D O C T O R * * or not.

> I just read the Mercola article and he advises using chlorella

>and cilantro in ADDITION to DMPS because they help mobilize and

>absorb the mercury. I don't think using them without a real

>chelator is a very safe idea.

True. And using them WITH a real chelator isn't any better of an

idea.

Andy

> I just got off the phone with my doctor and he disagrees

> with you. Strongly! LOL

Take a poll of doctors and 90-95% will disagree strongly with the idea

that mercury could be causing your problems, or that chelation could

solve them. So why poll doctors to make your decisions?

>Here's some interesting reading in regards to Chlorella and Cilantro:

http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/

>

> I would definitely dump the Chlorella and Cilantro, this has

the affect

> of mobilizing the mercury in your body without removing it.

Glen is right. Good way to get REALLY sick. Just like you did when

you believed the * * D O C T O R * * (dentists are referred to this

way too) who filled your face up with mercury because it was perfectly

safe.

Andy . . .. . . . . . . . .

>

> Glen.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Moria I don't want to burst anyone's bubble or anything but...if one

> believes that " chlorella is dangerous IN ANY CASE, " I think someone

might

> want to tell that to the MILLIONS of Japanese people who have used

it for

> eeeeons and lived health prosperous lives.

My bubble remains unburst. I did mean " for people who are

mercury toxic " , and my belief remains that it is dangerous.

> I find it so hard to

swallow that

> people are so negative about believing in natures virtue!!

ah, and I find it hard to swallow that some people are so

willing to think their guesses and presumptions about others

are correct. My beliefs about nature might really surprise

you -- but you certainly won't find

out what they are by TELLING ME what they are.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> No No Moria, please don't take what I said as wrong. It just seemed

funny to

> me how you said " in any case. " I can tellyou I am merc toxic and I

have

> taken my fair share of Chlorella, if anything it did help me out.

Especially

> since I cannot yet remove my fillings or chelate since I am nursing

my son.

>

> Rana

I'm glad you are feeling well

And I still have the same opinion.

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

> I wish people would stop attaching PERSONALLY! Andy, you should

know

> better. Just the facts Andy, just the Facts.......

Well, we discussed the facts about several issues, and also some

interesting questions of philosophy and belief. Pointing out factual

errors, disagreeing philosophically or not sharing beliefs are things

some people see as attacks no matter how carefully worded, while

others discuss them reasonably regardless of how worded.

Also, some people get confused about facts, philosophy and belief.

Some people believe that facts are whatever people in recognized

positions of authority say, others believe in making up their own

minds. Generally these two types of people have a hard time

communicating.

Also, it has been my observation that those who have the misfortune to

get mercury toxic yet continue to rely on authorities for facts

(usually bouncing from authority to authority) do not get well. Those

who rely on themselves to figure it out often do. Thus philosophy

really may be important to your own personal health outcome. Stop

reading Mercola and start thinking for yourself if you want to get

well. This list is a relatively good place to come once you have

decided to do that.

Andy . .. . . . . . . . . ..

[Guest guest]

Valentina,

I didnt' mean to offend you. I had simply had enough.

As you know, when you are very sick trying to read through all the

posts and glean useable information is hard enough without having

one's emotions all stirred up by sifting through countless

impassioned personal attacks and slams.

It was making me not want to read anything at all coming from either

you OR Glen, which seemed to be a bad idea. Because I get the sense

both of you have a lot of knowledge and experience.

I sent a similar message off list to Glen, also, asking him not to

continue this argument in the tone it has been going.

My requests weren't personal, they were procedural.

Also, I will not contact your personal email account from now on if

you dont' want me to. I simply didnt' want to " air " stuff like this

on this public list.

It was my effort at being polite, if you can believe that.

Really.

I apologize if I came off as being rude to you.

best wishes,

stevenson munro

> Hi,

>

> I am getting very annoyed. Because I am getting already emails off

the list

> (one of them very unpolite, from somebody named son Munro)

telling me

> to stop this argument.

> I think this IS a very important issue. And I don't think anybody

should

> treat it with ignorance.

> Normally, I wouldn't worry too much if I would see somebody posting

incorrect

> information. If I would have time, I would post my own opinon. If I

wouldn't,

> I would just delete the message, knowing that normally people ARE

doing their

> own research anyway.

> My problem with the way Glen says things is that fact that he is

not using

> expressions like " I think " , or " I'm not sure " , or " I guess " ... or

something

> that would make people understand that he cannot possibly be sure

that what

> he's talking about is absolutelly accurate. He advises people to do

things

> that might be VERY dangerous for some of them (if not most of

them). The way

> he says things sounds like he's an expert or something.

> For the unexperienced people, for people who desperately seek help,

for sick

> people who have brain fogg and are too tired to make the

difference, IT IS

> VERY DANGEROUS!

> Glen, I think you should stop! Believe me, you are very wrong in

some of the

> things you say, and I would appreciate (I say this for the third

time) if you

> would change the way you say things. Whatever your experience is,

it doesn't

> make it right for everybody.

>

> This email doesn't want to be some form of excuse. I don't think I

was

> inpolite in any way, and I don't think I did or said anything that

needs an

> excuse.

> I am though worried (and annoyed). And I think Sol (I'm assuming

you must be

> the moderator of this list), you should be worried too and do

something about

> it.

>

>

> Valentina

[Guest guest]

Hi LadyDarqFire,

Moria and Glen are absolutely correct, regardless of what your doctor believes.

Some mercury toxic people definitely have bad reactions to chlorella and

cilantro.

I know because I am one of them. Thought I was gonna die.

Not necessary to discuss the issue to death though, because you can try them and

see if you have a reaction or not. Someone told me that only about 30% do, so

if that's

true, the odds are in your favor ...

Dave

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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:40:03 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Mercury Chelation

I just got off the phone with my doctor and he disagrees with you. Strongly!

LOL Here's some interesting reading in regards to Chlorella and Cilantro:

http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/

>

I would definitely dump the Chlorella and Cilantro, this has the affect

of mobilizing the mercury in your body without removing it.

Glen.

[Guest guest]

> I have no doubt that some people shouldn't use chlorella or cilantro

or (insert- names- of -all- vitamins-nutrients- and

-supplements-here). I've said before that every human body is

different with different needs,

There are a lot of similarities, too.

Andy . . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

> Did your doctor happen to tell you that most sources of chlorella

are contaminated with mercury, because it does attract it so well? If

you are going to take chlorella, be sure it is mercury free.

Besides sending it to a lab for testing (impractical), how does one

know if the chlorella is mercury-free?

[Guest guest]

> Did your doctor happen to tell you that most sources of chlorella

are contaminated with mercury, because it does attract it so well? If

you are going to take chlorella, be sure it is mercury free.

Besides sending it to a lab for testing (impractical), how does one

know if the chlorella is mercury-free?

[Guest guest]

> Did your doctor happen to tell you that most sources of chlorella

are contaminated with mercury, because it does attract it so well? If

you are going to take chlorella, be sure it is mercury free.

Besides sending it to a lab for testing (impractical), how does one

know if the chlorella is mercury-free?