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Hi Jeff,

I tell anyone and everyone, tho I do try not to bore anyone

anymore. ;-j If it seems relevent to a conversation I'll mention

it. I did make sure my teacher knows, but frankly, I just hope he

*remembers* should I happen to drop too low all of a sudden. I take

snacks and pull them out whenever I feel shaky or " stupid. " I'm

thinking I'd better get a medical alert bracelet and let that speak

for me in case I can't.

I usually tell my family if I've gone unusually low, but more on the

order of making conversation, as in " I stubbed my toe today. " What

can they do? It's over and dealt with already. We're all past

the " oh my goodness! " stage about my diabetes. Our lives no longer

revolve around my condition.

I have a friend, tho, who is still uncomfortable about her recent

diagnosis, and she hasn't told anyone at work yet. This could be a

problem (and almost was!) tho as she tends to go really low in the

mid mornings. She doesn't want to carry mints or anything 'cuz

she's sure she'd eat them. She's more concerned about maintaining

her weight loss than regulating her sugar (which I interpret as a

form of denial at this stage). I expect she'll adjust eventually.

Good topic.

Ellen

T2 for 4 years now

> Hello ,

>

> You misunderstood my words... I was asking the question in

the

> generic, not specifically to you...

> But yes, sounds like you understood basically what I was getting

at... do

> you (generic) literally run and hide, pretend, whatever the

situation/case

> might be.... that you literally are not diabetic for that brief

time

>

> Do you ever not tell people close to you for example you had a

low, and to

> avoid the smothering concern, or the over zealous " sugar police "

you simple

> keep the event(s) to yourself, and keep them in the dark about it.

All kinds

> of situations I can imagine where you don't want to share some of

this stuff

> to avoid turning THEM into loony nut cases paranoid, over

protective but

> very well intentioned.

>

> Do you ever build the proverbial wall and keep things to yourself

about the

> disease, shared with none but you?

>

> Jeff

>

>

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> She hasn't been to any classes yet -- they're during the day and she

> works and has a long commute.  But she's looking for something. 

> I've tried to get her interested in joining this list, or any list,

> but she's seldom on the computer.  So I pass things along to her.

>

> I'm sure she'll adjust eventually.  It doesn't help that she has

> rather serious retinopathy.  ;-\  She was actually in denial for

> years.

>

That is what makes me nuts about the classes no one offers weekends! Now my

support group is night so maybe that would help for her. Anything is better

than nothing. Also getting her to call ADA they send out free info pacs. Im

sorry

she is in denial, I know this is terrible to deal with but I hope something

can help her. Heck Ive had moments of thinking " maybe they made a mistake and I

dont have this " AND I was in a coma AND i nearly died AND I take shots AND Im

a psychology major!! AANnnnd I still have those thoughts, they are totally

normal but she needs to get control and take charge of her health before worse

things happen!

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Thanx for the suggestion of glucose tabs. I didn't realize they

weren't just another kind of " candy. " You're right, who in their

right mind would want to snack on vitamin C?! ;-]

She hasn't been to any classes yet -- they're during the day and she

works and has a long commute. But she's looking for something.

I've tried to get her interested in joining this list, or any list,

but she's seldom on the computer. So I pass things along to her.

I'm sure she'll adjust eventually. It doesn't help that she has

rather serious retinopathy. ;-\ She was actually in denial for

years.

Ellen

>

> In a message dated 7/29/04 3:09:26 PM, ellen.shipley@c... writes:

>

>

> > I have a friend, tho, who is still uncomfortable about her recent

> > diagnosis, and she hasn't told anyone at work yet.  This could

be a

> > problem (and almost was!) tho as she tends to go really low in

the

> > mid mornings.  She doesn't want to carry mints or anything 'cuz

> > she's sure she'd eat them.  She's more concerned about

maintaining

> > her weight loss than regulating her sugar (which I interpret as a

> > form of denial at this stage).  I expect she'll adjust

eventually.

> >

>

> I certainly understand where she is at asa taht is how Im feelign

still. i

> would say she is still deep in denial. Maybe suggest to her

carrying glucose

> tabs, they arent that tasty and not really something someone would

want to snack

> on, unless a person craves the flavor of orange vitamins lol.

Seriously though

> that might be better than mints for her. She'll adjust with time,

has she

> gone to classes yet or maybe joined a support group?

>

>

>

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In a message dated 7/30/2004 6:21:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

I tell everyone whom I think has a need to know. Friends and relatives who

might want to invite me to dinner, so that they will not take it personally if

I don't eat certain things (or that they can know not to prepare certain

things); co-workers who need to know what to do if I have a hypo, and that if my

high or low sugar makes me emotionally unstable not to take it personally;

restaurant servers, so that they know that I'm not asking for substitutions just

to

be difficult; etc. Being diabetic is nothing to be ashamed of.

Hey Bruce, we really agree on this one! Hugs, Marilyn

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I tell everyone whom I think has a need to know. Friends and relatives who

might want to invite me to dinner, so that they will not take it personally if I

don't eat certain things (or that they can know not to prepare certain things);

co-workers who need to know what to do if I have a hypo, and that if my high or

low sugar makes me emotionally unstable not to take it personally; restaurant

servers, so that they know that I'm not asking for substitutions just to be

difficult; etc. Being diabetic is nothing to be ashamed of.

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That's exactly what it means. If a diabetic is doing everything right

but still has BS levels that fluxuate erratically and unpredicably, s/he

is said to be 'brittle.' It is more common in T1 than T2, I understand,

but is not unknown among the latter. With T1s, if I understand

correctly, it is more common at the beginning, while the patient is

still learning about his/her body's processes; with T2s it is more

common after being diagnosed a long time, as the body's natural insulin

production finally fizzles out.

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Re: Do you share?

Ive heard that term before, if you dont mind, what does it mean? I know

poorly controlled, or hard to control or something, but is it t1 or t2

or both,

does it come with years of having the disease or at the beginign? why

does it

happen? thanks for any questions you answer!

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Taking a day or a half-day for a diabetes education class is a perfectly

legitimate use of sick leave.

[alldiabeticinternational] Re: Do you share?

She hasn't been to any classes yet -- they're during the day and she

works and has a long commute.

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Thanks. Disraeli may have said " never apologize, never explain " , but he

wasn't diabetic. We shouldn't 'apologize' in the sense of admitting

wrongdoing--for there's nothing wrong with being diabetic--but if our

diabetes causes someone else inconvenience or distress, we should

apologize, and if it causes us to do things differently we should

explain.

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Re: Do you share?

In a message dated 7/30/2004 6:21:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Hey Bruce, we really agree on this one! Hugs, Marilyn

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Hello Jamez!

First of all, Jamez, my apologies for appearing to be bringing up old threads;

as I have been working away I have gotten more than a little behind with my

emails! Anyway, on to my question:

>Posts such as the one in question about sharing-

>specifically, the manner in which it was stated-will

>not be tolerated on this board. We are here to be

>supportive and it must be realized that the majority

>of the members are sensitive to their individual

>situations. Everyone has the right to feel safe here;

>not like they are being attacked or put down because

>of what they post.

Sorry, , but I'm a little confused by this statement. I've followed the

thread back to the original post, and can't see anything which would have

provoked your comments; certainly there appeared to be nothing untoward in the

original post. Have I missed something here?

Not wishing to cause trouble at all; just wishing to understand your comments!

regards,

Eddie.

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> Hello Eddie-The reason you don't see the offending

> posts is because they were deleted. Thus your

> inability to comprehend what has been going on.

> Suffice it to say, hopefully, all has been taken care

> of with the parties concened. If you have any further

> questions, please contact me privately at

> sanborn51@.... No need to discuss it on the

> board any further.

>

Just a suggestion. On AOL message boards, when an offending post is removed,

the mods remove the subsequent posts on that topic as well. Following this

practice might help cut down on the above confusion.

-Ellen

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

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