Re: Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

[Guest guest]

All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

[alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Gert Snyder

1/2 cup barbecue sauce

1 cup whole-berry cranberry sauce

[Guest guest]

All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

[alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Gert Snyder

1/2 cup barbecue sauce

1 cup whole-berry cranberry sauce

[Guest guest]

All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

[alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

Gert Snyder

1/2 cup barbecue sauce

1 cup whole-berry cranberry sauce

[Guest guest]

And fake chemicals are good for us????

--

Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his twin

brother.

-- Khalil Gibran

>

> Reply-To: alldiabeticinternational

> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:40:31 -0400

> To: alldiabeticinternational >,

> Diabetic_Recipes >, Recipes4Diabetes >,

> GotDiabetes >

> Subject: RE: [alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

>

> All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

> barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

> Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

>

> [alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

>

>

>

> Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

> Gert Snyder

>

> 1/2 cup barbecue sauce

> 1 cup whole-berry cranberry sauce

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I don't know if there is a

> Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

>

I would kill for that.. Cranberry is my FAVORITE thing in this world!!!!

[Guest guest]

Exactly, and to go with my previous post about the dangers of

artificial sweetners...from the FDA site

itself...http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-

0317_emc-000205.txt

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-

000203.txt

> And fake chemicals are good for us????

>

> --

> Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that faith is his twin

> brother.

> -- Khalil Gibran

>

> > From: " , Bruce "

> > Reply-To: alldiabeticinternational

> > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:40:31 -0400

> > To: alldiabeticinternational >,

> > Diabetic_Recipes >,

Recipes4Diabetes >,

> > GotDiabetes >

> > Subject: RE: [alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour

Pork

> >

> > All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-

based

> > barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there

is a

> > Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

> >

> > [alldiabeticinternational] Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

> >

> >

> >

> > Cranberry Sweet-and-Sour Pork

> > Gert Snyder

> >

> > 1/2 cup barbecue sauce

> > 1 cup whole-berry cranberry sauce

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, Bruce wrote:

>All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

>barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

>Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

I don't know if there's a commercial cranberry sauce sweetened with Splenda

but I've made my own and it works great. Cranberries and rhubarb are 2

items I really like that Splenda has recovered for me, since

aspartame/Equal won't work if you cook with it.

Sandy

T1 - 1979

[Guest guest]

> They're all the same poison to my T1 system. That doesn't mean

> that I never " cheat " but I cut the corners where I can and make my own

> choices.

>

Is there anything specific to sugar and type one? Im type one and have a

terrible reaction to sugar, just like you said it seems like poison to me

[Guest guest]

> And fake chemicals are good for us????

>

>

Remind me in 10 years when i grow a third eyeball, I entirely see your point

though, I have ofter refered to artificial sweetner as " rat poison " cause

sacharian caused cancer.

[Guest guest]

>And fake chemicals are good for us????

Diabetes is kinda unhealthy for my body too. The chemical/substance that is

the worst for me, as a diabetic, is sugar . . . whether it be bleached

table sugar or " healthy " maple syrup or food-valued honey or natural

fructose. They're all the same poison to my T1 system. That doesn't mean

that I never " cheat " but I cut the corners where I can and make my own

choices.

Sandy

T1 - 1979

> >

> > All that sugar can't be good for us. Lawrey's makes a Splenda-based

> > barbecue sauce; that might help matters. I don't know if there is a

> > Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

[Guest guest]

i think i've lost the thread of the...thread. but those studies with

the rats getting cancer, they were forcefeeding massive amounts of

the stuff to the rats...which invalidated the studies. that's why

saccharin is on the market today.

on the other hand, can't say i've ever learned to love the taste of

sweet n' low. and all this chemical processing isn't necessarily OK.

does splenda really send your mom's sugars up, kristy? that's really

curious.

rach

> But wasn't that cancer that is being talked about something

> occurred only in rats when they were studying the process of

> make-up of the product?

>

> Either way I would never have it. And unfortunately mom can't

> handle the artificial sweetners b/c it bothers her stomach. And

> splenda sends her sugars skyhigh.

>

> Kristy

[Guest guest]

You can make your own cranberry sauce (from scratch) with bulk Splenda or

various flavors of sugar-free syrups.

Sandy

metaylorokc@... wrote:

>I would kill for that.. Cranberry is my FAVORITE thing in this world!!!!

> > I don't know if there is a > Splenda-sweetened brand of cranberry sauce.

[Guest guest]

metaylorokc@... wrote:

>Is there anything specific to sugar and type one? Im type one and have a

>terrible reaction to sugar, just like you said it seems like poison to me

Yup. It's the basic fact that, as a Type 1, you make no natural insulin and

must inject it to cover any food in order to regulate your glucose levels.

Our T1 bodies can't do any of that on their own. Simple sugar, in any

form, spikes BG (and must be " covered " by injected insulin) but so does any

food with high glycemic value that quickly metabolizes to simple sugars

such as potatoes, rice, pasta, fruit, fruit juice, etc. It is a juggling

act to try to regulate manually (with injected insulin) what our bodies

were designed to do automatically via a working pancreas.

Sandy

T1 - 1979

[Guest guest]

metaylorokc@... wrote:

>I have ofter refered to artificial sweetner as " rat poison " cause

>sacharian caused cancer.

That's what they thought in the late 60's/early 70's when they did all that

testing on rats and pulled saccharin off the market. By the very late

1990's they had amassed lots more clinical/experimental evidence and found

that it wasn't true . . . and issued statements tantamount to " oh, never

mind " and put saccharin back on the market.

There is hoax info out about aspartame and probably even Splenda. There

will always be some percentage of the population with sensitivities and/or

allergies to any substance. For myself, sugar and high glycemic foods are

more dangerous to me than the amount of artificial sweetener I ingest so I

prefer to make my own choices and trade-offs.

Sandy

T1 - 1979

[Guest guest]

<< But wasn't that cancer that is being talked about something

occurred only in rats when they were studying the process of

make-up of the product? >>

Well and what always got me is it caused cancer in rats when given in

gazillion times the human dose etc...

[Guest guest]

<< Linking saccharin to cancer originated with 1977 laboratory studies in

which male rats fed huge doses of the sweetener developed bladder tumors. Some

compared the dosage to a human drinking 800 cans of diet soda daily for a

lifetime. " >>

That is specifically what I have never understood about those studies! I

asked a teacher at school about that and was told it is signifigant because the

rats did develop side effects (was asking about meds in general) @@ DUH if you

fed them 800 times there body weight in salt or even water they would develop

problems.. i stilll dont get it but that is ok.

[Guest guest]

<< Linking saccharin to cancer originated with 1977 laboratory studies in

which male rats fed huge doses of the sweetener developed bladder tumors. Some

compared the dosage to a human drinking 800 cans of diet soda daily for a

lifetime. " >>

That is specifically what I have never understood about those studies! I

asked a teacher at school about that and was told it is signifigant because the

rats did develop side effects (was asking about meds in general) @@ DUH if you

fed them 800 times there body weight in salt or even water they would develop

problems.. i stilll dont get it but that is ok.

[Guest guest]

<< Linking saccharin to cancer originated with 1977 laboratory studies in

which male rats fed huge doses of the sweetener developed bladder tumors. Some

compared the dosage to a human drinking 800 cans of diet soda daily for a

lifetime. " >>

That is specifically what I have never understood about those studies! I

asked a teacher at school about that and was told it is signifigant because the

rats did develop side effects (was asking about meds in general) @@ DUH if you

fed them 800 times there body weight in salt or even water they would develop

problems.. i stilll dont get it but that is ok.

[Guest guest]

> Yup. It's the basic fact that, as a Type 1, you make no natural insulin and

> must inject it to cover any food in order to regulate your glucose levels.

> Our T1 bodies can't do any of that on their own.  Simple sugar, in any

> form, spikes BG (and must be " covered " by injected insulin) but so does any

> food with high glycemic value that quickly metabolizes to simple sugars

> such as potatoes, rice, pasta, fruit, fruit juice, etc. It is a juggling

> act to try to regulate manually (with injected insulin) what our bodies

> were designed to do automatically via a working pancreas.

>

Thanks for helping to clear that up for me. Im having trouble learning about

specifically type one. Also I have another question for you, if you dont mind.

Do type one's have more trouble with going hypo without warning. Like I will

be doing something and without getting shaky or anything, Ill think " I feel a

little dizzy " and take my sugar and it is like 50. My mother is a type 2 and

she gets shaky etcc... Just wondering if there is a reason why this happens

without warning.

[Guest guest]

The idea to test substances for our protection is of course a valid idea.

The truth behind the testing though comes from whomever is funding the test!

With artificial sweetners, ( and I am not promoting them) very often the sugar

industry itself provides the funding to defend its profits in the general

population. Obviously we know that feeding anything that much sugar is

dangerous

to its health.

That is why we all have to be vigilant about claims made pro or con with any

food, additive, medicine etc. Somebody is trying to profit from its sale.

Gail