Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 I'm glad it has arrived! Hope it wasn't too crushed in the post.... No, I don't want anything for it - karma points'll do for me Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 I'm glad it has arrived! Hope it wasn't too crushed in the post.... No, I don't want anything for it - karma points'll do for me Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 > I'm glad it has arrived! Hope it wasn't too crushed in the post.... it was totally crease-free!! Will have to find some of that fabric -I should make a whole wardrobe of clothes out of it and never iron again LOL! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 > I'm glad it has arrived! Hope it wasn't too crushed in the post.... it was totally crease-free!! Will have to find some of that fabric -I should make a whole wardrobe of clothes out of it and never iron again LOL! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 > I'm glad it has arrived! Hope it wasn't too crushed in the post.... it was totally crease-free!! Will have to find some of that fabric -I should make a whole wardrobe of clothes out of it and never iron again LOL! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I can't thank you all enough for your help!! It's nice to know you are here and know what I am going through!! Love you all! Vicki > Dear Vicki, > > I am so outraged by surgeons that are just in this for the money. They do > the surgery and leave you hanging with little or no information and that is > tragic. > > Anyway, as far as food goes, gave you excellent advice. You have to > tread lightly though if you don't know what will or won't work for you. > There are many rules to follow, but they are easy to do. These are my > surgeon's recommendations, and they work for me, so I'm offering them to you > and assuming you know nothing about any of this. If you do, I apologize for > my assumption. > > First of all, vitamins are critical. You need to take a good multivitamin > (equivalent to centrum or whatever, but something that has many vitamins and > minerals in it); you need to get vitamin b-12 (I find the 2500 mcg. > sublingual one from puritanspride.com to be excellent. B-12 is ESSENTIAL to > your health and if you become deficient in it, you can cause irreversible > neurological problems for yourself (I'm not saying this to scare you, it's > true); if you are still mentruating, you will need iron. Feosol (over the > counter) is a good one because it's easily tolerated and absorbed. You can > take the iron with a little orange juice or a vitamin c because the orange > helps the iron absorb quicker. You also need to take 1000 to 1500 mg of > calcium citrate (make sure it's citrate and not carbonate. We don't absorbe > carbonate); I don't see many people posting this, but my surgeon also > recommends Vitamins E, D, A and K. > > You should have blood tests run (by your pcp, since you can't trust your > surgeon) every three months the first year of surgery and every six months > thereafter. Be sure to ask your doctor for a copy of your lab results and > save them so that you can compare your trends. This way you will see how > you need to " tweak " your vitamins, etc. Once a year you can have (if you > wish) a dexasan to see how well you are absorbing the calcium and to keep > osteoporosis at bay. When you have your blood drawn, have your doctor write > a prescription which covers all the items listed here: > > It is recommended that for the first year post-op that you have your blood > tested every three (3) months. After the first year then it is every six (6) > months. Just to let you know, this testing requires about 6 or 7 tubes of > blood so don't freak out when they line them all up !!! Also make sure the > lab knows the proper handling of the specimens, one test requires that the > blood be kept from light and several require special tubes....just politely > ask the lab to look up all the requirements for each test. You should > always get a copy of your blood tests and compare the results for trends. > For instance if your lab values are in the " normal " range but they are > consistantly getting lower each time you get them done, you want to do > something about it before they fall into the " abnormal " range. > > Here is the list: Comprehensive Metabolic Profile Lipid Profile ALT > (SPGT)GGTLDH Phosphorous - inorganic Uric acid Hemogram with platlets B-12 & > Folate Iron, TIBC, % Sat Vitamin A & D (25-hydroxy) Thyroid panel (T3U, T4, > FTI, TSH)Zinc Magnesium Ferritin. These are the ICD-9 Diagnosis Codes > needed for insurance reimbursement 579.3 - post-surgical malabsorbption; > 269.2 - hypovitaminosis; 244.9 hypothryoidism. > > For drinking fluids, you should drink as much as you can daily, but the > minimum should be 64 fluid ounces. This can be from water, crystal light, > sugar free decaf beverages, sugar free popsicles, flavored waters like fruit > 2-0 or propel, juices if you cut them at least 50/50 with water to reduce > the sugar content, protein shakes, etc. It is recommended that you stop > drinking 1/2 hour prior to meals, don't drink during your meal and don't > drink for 1/2 hour following the meal. At all other times, drink as much as > you can handle. I set myself up in the morning by making myself a 16 oz. > protein shake (I prefer the Champion Pure Stack Whey protein powder which I > buy from supplementcentral.com -- they have great flavors and are > reasonable. Each shake is 30 grams of protein -- 23 grams from 1 scoop of > the powder and another 7 grams from the lactaid I use to mix it in). The > most we can absorb every few hours is 30 grams, so there's no percentage in > eating or drinking more than that at one setting. After the shake, I set up > 3 > 24 oz. water bottles of propel. I drink them from morning to night and, if > that's all I drink (I usually drink more), I've gotten in 88 oz. of fluids. > > As for food, you are in the solid stage and should eat anything you want, > bearing in mind that, if you are like me, the amount you can hold is very > limited, so you want to make protein your priority and you want the biggest > bang for your buck. I eat protein first every meal (and most times I'm so > full I don't get to anything else) but if I have room following my protein, > I'll have a green veggie or salad and if I still have room (which is > laughable), I'll have some type of fruit. The only thing I can't tolerate > since surgery is pork (and you saw for it's beef), but you may react > differently. Some of my main staples are cheese (approx. 7 grams per > slice); tuna (28 grams per 2 oz. portion); sardines (skinless and boneless > in oil are 23 grams per 3 oz.); eggs (2 extra large are 14 grams); turkey > pepperoni (17 tiny slices are 15 grams); pintos and cheese from taco bell > (about 20 grams); chili with cheese from wendy's (about 20 grams); shrimp > (about 14 grams to 4 small shrimp) and the list goes on. If I have carbs, > it's usually from my veggies or fruit. If I MUST have bread (which is rare > for me) it has to be toasted. Otherwise it comes back at me for some > reason. You have to read labels so you can find your comfort level with > food and what's going to be the best thing for you. I try very hard not to > snack on my old favorites (I was a chocoholic) but every now and then the > craving gets to be too great so I have a TINY (and I do mean tiny) amount of > something. I used to " snack " on a 1/2 lb. bag of M&Ms. Now, (in the 11 > months since my surgery) if I have M&Ms it's only been twice in 11 months, > and each time it was 3 of them, not the whole bag. I'm not perfect and I > don't know anyone who is. > > You need to pace yourself. Try to spread your meal out over 1/2 hour if you > can. Eat very slowly so your mind can catch up to your stomach and signal > you when you're full. If you eat too fast or don't chew well enough, > guaranteed you'll be puking. > > Another thing (which I rarely do, but was hoping I would do more of) is > dump. This is the reaction you get if you ingest too much sugar. You will > feel like you're having a heart attack. You will feel as if you're going to > pass out. You can sweat and get the shakes. It can last for minutes or it > can last for hours and you never know what will throw you into it, except > it's pretty much a given that if you're eating too many sweet things or (for > me) pasta which breaks down to sugar in your system. When it hits you, > you're gonna regret having eaten what you've eaten. > > I can't think of anything else at the moment, but if you've got any other > questions, feel free to post them to the board. You'll get an extraordinary > amount of support here. Best of luck to you. > > live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt... > > Deb in Hazlet, NJ > " Debbie Dancer " > distal rny > September 3, 2002 > 386/235/160 > BMI 60/34.7/24 > -151 > -69.5 " > > Angel to Bill (8/14/03), Debbie (waiting for a date) Ilene, Roy, and Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I can't thank you all enough for your help!! It's nice to know you are here and know what I am going through!! Love you all! Vicki > Dear Vicki, > > I am so outraged by surgeons that are just in this for the money. They do > the surgery and leave you hanging with little or no information and that is > tragic. > > Anyway, as far as food goes, gave you excellent advice. You have to > tread lightly though if you don't know what will or won't work for you. > There are many rules to follow, but they are easy to do. These are my > surgeon's recommendations, and they work for me, so I'm offering them to you > and assuming you know nothing about any of this. If you do, I apologize for > my assumption. > > First of all, vitamins are critical. You need to take a good multivitamin > (equivalent to centrum or whatever, but something that has many vitamins and > minerals in it); you need to get vitamin b-12 (I find the 2500 mcg. > sublingual one from puritanspride.com to be excellent. B-12 is ESSENTIAL to > your health and if you become deficient in it, you can cause irreversible > neurological problems for yourself (I'm not saying this to scare you, it's > true); if you are still mentruating, you will need iron. Feosol (over the > counter) is a good one because it's easily tolerated and absorbed. You can > take the iron with a little orange juice or a vitamin c because the orange > helps the iron absorb quicker. You also need to take 1000 to 1500 mg of > calcium citrate (make sure it's citrate and not carbonate. We don't absorbe > carbonate); I don't see many people posting this, but my surgeon also > recommends Vitamins E, D, A and K. > > You should have blood tests run (by your pcp, since you can't trust your > surgeon) every three months the first year of surgery and every six months > thereafter. Be sure to ask your doctor for a copy of your lab results and > save them so that you can compare your trends. This way you will see how > you need to " tweak " your vitamins, etc. Once a year you can have (if you > wish) a dexasan to see how well you are absorbing the calcium and to keep > osteoporosis at bay. When you have your blood drawn, have your doctor write > a prescription which covers all the items listed here: > > It is recommended that for the first year post-op that you have your blood > tested every three (3) months. After the first year then it is every six (6) > months. Just to let you know, this testing requires about 6 or 7 tubes of > blood so don't freak out when they line them all up !!! Also make sure the > lab knows the proper handling of the specimens, one test requires that the > blood be kept from light and several require special tubes....just politely > ask the lab to look up all the requirements for each test. You should > always get a copy of your blood tests and compare the results for trends. > For instance if your lab values are in the " normal " range but they are > consistantly getting lower each time you get them done, you want to do > something about it before they fall into the " abnormal " range. > > Here is the list: Comprehensive Metabolic Profile Lipid Profile ALT > (SPGT)GGTLDH Phosphorous - inorganic Uric acid Hemogram with platlets B-12 & > Folate Iron, TIBC, % Sat Vitamin A & D (25-hydroxy) Thyroid panel (T3U, T4, > FTI, TSH)Zinc Magnesium Ferritin. These are the ICD-9 Diagnosis Codes > needed for insurance reimbursement 579.3 - post-surgical malabsorbption; > 269.2 - hypovitaminosis; 244.9 hypothryoidism. > > For drinking fluids, you should drink as much as you can daily, but the > minimum should be 64 fluid ounces. This can be from water, crystal light, > sugar free decaf beverages, sugar free popsicles, flavored waters like fruit > 2-0 or propel, juices if you cut them at least 50/50 with water to reduce > the sugar content, protein shakes, etc. It is recommended that you stop > drinking 1/2 hour prior to meals, don't drink during your meal and don't > drink for 1/2 hour following the meal. At all other times, drink as much as > you can handle. I set myself up in the morning by making myself a 16 oz. > protein shake (I prefer the Champion Pure Stack Whey protein powder which I > buy from supplementcentral.com -- they have great flavors and are > reasonable. Each shake is 30 grams of protein -- 23 grams from 1 scoop of > the powder and another 7 grams from the lactaid I use to mix it in). The > most we can absorb every few hours is 30 grams, so there's no percentage in > eating or drinking more than that at one setting. After the shake, I set up > 3 > 24 oz. water bottles of propel. I drink them from morning to night and, if > that's all I drink (I usually drink more), I've gotten in 88 oz. of fluids. > > As for food, you are in the solid stage and should eat anything you want, > bearing in mind that, if you are like me, the amount you can hold is very > limited, so you want to make protein your priority and you want the biggest > bang for your buck. I eat protein first every meal (and most times I'm so > full I don't get to anything else) but if I have room following my protein, > I'll have a green veggie or salad and if I still have room (which is > laughable), I'll have some type of fruit. The only thing I can't tolerate > since surgery is pork (and you saw for it's beef), but you may react > differently. Some of my main staples are cheese (approx. 7 grams per > slice); tuna (28 grams per 2 oz. portion); sardines (skinless and boneless > in oil are 23 grams per 3 oz.); eggs (2 extra large are 14 grams); turkey > pepperoni (17 tiny slices are 15 grams); pintos and cheese from taco bell > (about 20 grams); chili with cheese from wendy's (about 20 grams); shrimp > (about 14 grams to 4 small shrimp) and the list goes on. If I have carbs, > it's usually from my veggies or fruit. If I MUST have bread (which is rare > for me) it has to be toasted. Otherwise it comes back at me for some > reason. You have to read labels so you can find your comfort level with > food and what's going to be the best thing for you. I try very hard not to > snack on my old favorites (I was a chocoholic) but every now and then the > craving gets to be too great so I have a TINY (and I do mean tiny) amount of > something. I used to " snack " on a 1/2 lb. bag of M&Ms. Now, (in the 11 > months since my surgery) if I have M&Ms it's only been twice in 11 months, > and each time it was 3 of them, not the whole bag. I'm not perfect and I > don't know anyone who is. > > You need to pace yourself. Try to spread your meal out over 1/2 hour if you > can. Eat very slowly so your mind can catch up to your stomach and signal > you when you're full. If you eat too fast or don't chew well enough, > guaranteed you'll be puking. > > Another thing (which I rarely do, but was hoping I would do more of) is > dump. This is the reaction you get if you ingest too much sugar. You will > feel like you're having a heart attack. You will feel as if you're going to > pass out. You can sweat and get the shakes. It can last for minutes or it > can last for hours and you never know what will throw you into it, except > it's pretty much a given that if you're eating too many sweet things or (for > me) pasta which breaks down to sugar in your system. When it hits you, > you're gonna regret having eaten what you've eaten. > > I can't think of anything else at the moment, but if you've got any other > questions, feel free to post them to the board. You'll get an extraordinary > amount of support here. Best of luck to you. > > live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt... > > Deb in Hazlet, NJ > " Debbie Dancer " > distal rny > September 3, 2002 > 386/235/160 > BMI 60/34.7/24 > -151 > -69.5 " > > Angel to Bill (8/14/03), Debbie (waiting for a date) Ilene, Roy, and Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I can't thank you all enough for your help!! It's nice to know you are here and know what I am going through!! Love you all! Vicki > Dear Vicki, > > I am so outraged by surgeons that are just in this for the money. They do > the surgery and leave you hanging with little or no information and that is > tragic. > > Anyway, as far as food goes, gave you excellent advice. You have to > tread lightly though if you don't know what will or won't work for you. > There are many rules to follow, but they are easy to do. These are my > surgeon's recommendations, and they work for me, so I'm offering them to you > and assuming you know nothing about any of this. If you do, I apologize for > my assumption. > > First of all, vitamins are critical. You need to take a good multivitamin > (equivalent to centrum or whatever, but something that has many vitamins and > minerals in it); you need to get vitamin b-12 (I find the 2500 mcg. > sublingual one from puritanspride.com to be excellent. B-12 is ESSENTIAL to > your health and if you become deficient in it, you can cause irreversible > neurological problems for yourself (I'm not saying this to scare you, it's > true); if you are still mentruating, you will need iron. Feosol (over the > counter) is a good one because it's easily tolerated and absorbed. You can > take the iron with a little orange juice or a vitamin c because the orange > helps the iron absorb quicker. You also need to take 1000 to 1500 mg of > calcium citrate (make sure it's citrate and not carbonate. We don't absorbe > carbonate); I don't see many people posting this, but my surgeon also > recommends Vitamins E, D, A and K. > > You should have blood tests run (by your pcp, since you can't trust your > surgeon) every three months the first year of surgery and every six months > thereafter. Be sure to ask your doctor for a copy of your lab results and > save them so that you can compare your trends. This way you will see how > you need to " tweak " your vitamins, etc. Once a year you can have (if you > wish) a dexasan to see how well you are absorbing the calcium and to keep > osteoporosis at bay. When you have your blood drawn, have your doctor write > a prescription which covers all the items listed here: > > It is recommended that for the first year post-op that you have your blood > tested every three (3) months. After the first year then it is every six (6) > months. Just to let you know, this testing requires about 6 or 7 tubes of > blood so don't freak out when they line them all up !!! Also make sure the > lab knows the proper handling of the specimens, one test requires that the > blood be kept from light and several require special tubes....just politely > ask the lab to look up all the requirements for each test. You should > always get a copy of your blood tests and compare the results for trends. > For instance if your lab values are in the " normal " range but they are > consistantly getting lower each time you get them done, you want to do > something about it before they fall into the " abnormal " range. > > Here is the list: Comprehensive Metabolic Profile Lipid Profile ALT > (SPGT)GGTLDH Phosphorous - inorganic Uric acid Hemogram with platlets B-12 & > Folate Iron, TIBC, % Sat Vitamin A & D (25-hydroxy) Thyroid panel (T3U, T4, > FTI, TSH)Zinc Magnesium Ferritin. These are the ICD-9 Diagnosis Codes > needed for insurance reimbursement 579.3 - post-surgical malabsorbption; > 269.2 - hypovitaminosis; 244.9 hypothryoidism. > > For drinking fluids, you should drink as much as you can daily, but the > minimum should be 64 fluid ounces. This can be from water, crystal light, > sugar free decaf beverages, sugar free popsicles, flavored waters like fruit > 2-0 or propel, juices if you cut them at least 50/50 with water to reduce > the sugar content, protein shakes, etc. It is recommended that you stop > drinking 1/2 hour prior to meals, don't drink during your meal and don't > drink for 1/2 hour following the meal. At all other times, drink as much as > you can handle. I set myself up in the morning by making myself a 16 oz. > protein shake (I prefer the Champion Pure Stack Whey protein powder which I > buy from supplementcentral.com -- they have great flavors and are > reasonable. Each shake is 30 grams of protein -- 23 grams from 1 scoop of > the powder and another 7 grams from the lactaid I use to mix it in). The > most we can absorb every few hours is 30 grams, so there's no percentage in > eating or drinking more than that at one setting. After the shake, I set up > 3 > 24 oz. water bottles of propel. I drink them from morning to night and, if > that's all I drink (I usually drink more), I've gotten in 88 oz. of fluids. > > As for food, you are in the solid stage and should eat anything you want, > bearing in mind that, if you are like me, the amount you can hold is very > limited, so you want to make protein your priority and you want the biggest > bang for your buck. I eat protein first every meal (and most times I'm so > full I don't get to anything else) but if I have room following my protein, > I'll have a green veggie or salad and if I still have room (which is > laughable), I'll have some type of fruit. The only thing I can't tolerate > since surgery is pork (and you saw for it's beef), but you may react > differently. Some of my main staples are cheese (approx. 7 grams per > slice); tuna (28 grams per 2 oz. portion); sardines (skinless and boneless > in oil are 23 grams per 3 oz.); eggs (2 extra large are 14 grams); turkey > pepperoni (17 tiny slices are 15 grams); pintos and cheese from taco bell > (about 20 grams); chili with cheese from wendy's (about 20 grams); shrimp > (about 14 grams to 4 small shrimp) and the list goes on. If I have carbs, > it's usually from my veggies or fruit. If I MUST have bread (which is rare > for me) it has to be toasted. Otherwise it comes back at me for some > reason. You have to read labels so you can find your comfort level with > food and what's going to be the best thing for you. I try very hard not to > snack on my old favorites (I was a chocoholic) but every now and then the > craving gets to be too great so I have a TINY (and I do mean tiny) amount of > something. I used to " snack " on a 1/2 lb. bag of M&Ms. Now, (in the 11 > months since my surgery) if I have M&Ms it's only been twice in 11 months, > and each time it was 3 of them, not the whole bag. I'm not perfect and I > don't know anyone who is. > > You need to pace yourself. Try to spread your meal out over 1/2 hour if you > can. Eat very slowly so your mind can catch up to your stomach and signal > you when you're full. If you eat too fast or don't chew well enough, > guaranteed you'll be puking. > > Another thing (which I rarely do, but was hoping I would do more of) is > dump. This is the reaction you get if you ingest too much sugar. You will > feel like you're having a heart attack. You will feel as if you're going to > pass out. You can sweat and get the shakes. It can last for minutes or it > can last for hours and you never know what will throw you into it, except > it's pretty much a given that if you're eating too many sweet things or (for > me) pasta which breaks down to sugar in your system. When it hits you, > you're gonna regret having eaten what you've eaten. > > I can't think of anything else at the moment, but if you've got any other > questions, feel free to post them to the board. You'll get an extraordinary > amount of support here. Best of luck to you. > > live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt... > > Deb in Hazlet, NJ > " Debbie Dancer " > distal rny > September 3, 2002 > 386/235/160 > BMI 60/34.7/24 > -151 > -69.5 " > > Angel to Bill (8/14/03), Debbie (waiting for a date) Ilene, Roy, and Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 lol, Marilyn, I didn't know that you were in San ... Glenn my hubby was in Haywired, oops, Hayward when I first met him on line, I flew into the San Airport when I went to meet him face to face...there is a Derwienerschizel (?) close by where Glenn took me for a romantic lunch...lol, He remembered that I had been craving their chili dogs...so he saw to it that I got them...these folks out here just don't know a good chili dog when they meet one, up till recently, you would have to order a chili dog w/ the hot dog, otherwise you would get a hot dog bun with chili on it...rofl... Carmen [alldiabeticinternational] Vicki In a message dated 6/23/2004 8:56:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, vgardner@... writes: BTW, I am from the SF Bay area. Small world. Vicki Hi Vicki, where in the bay area? I am in San , 1/2 block from , a block or so from Saratoga and a few blocks from Los Gatos. LOL Everybody tries to annex us, but San says No. Hugs, Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 In a message dated 6/24/2004 8:51:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, vgardner@... writes: Hi Marilyn, small world. I lived in Fremont for 15 years and worked in San . Across from the Winchester Mystery House. We moved to the Seattle area almost three years ago. Nice to hear from you. Vicki Hi Vicki, you wouldn't recognize that area around the W mistery house now! On the corner, across from The Flames restaurant they have built a huge EXPENSIVE shopping center. Last year, the second story almost finished went up in flames. They have now redone it. There is a section of 5000 $ a month apartments to rent up there I am told. Too crazy. Have you seen Valley Fair with it's changes? Very nice, also big bucks there. Drove any lower end stuff pretty much out. I love the area where you are now. I was born in Grays Harbor (Aberdeen). Love Lake Quinalt and Ocean Shores. It was called Oyehut when I dug clams there as a kid. Hugs, Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 From: dnevessr@... Hi Vicki, where in the bay area? I am in San , 1/2 block from , a block or so from Saratoga and a few blocks from Los Gatos. LOL Everybody tries to annex us, but San says No. Hugs, Marilyn Hi Marilyn, small world. I lived in Fremont for 15 years and worked in San . Across from the Winchester Mystery House. We moved to the Seattle area almost three years ago. Nice to hear from you. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 oh hey, neighbors! that's santana row! i'm on the peninsula...just made my first visit to that mall a few months ago, and it took me awhile to realize it was actually right next door to valley fair mall... rach > In a message dated 6/24/2004 8:51:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, > vgardner@n... writes: > Hi Marilyn, small world. I lived in Fremont for 15 years and worked in San > . Across from the Winchester Mystery House. We moved to the Seattle area > almost three years ago. Nice to hear from you. > > Vicki > Hi Vicki, you wouldn't recognize that area around the W mistery house now! > On the corner, across from The Flames restaurant they have built a huge > EXPENSIVE shopping center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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