Re: support

[Guest guest]

Janie, I agree with you ! !!! This is OUR list that means everyone not a

selected few. If you do not like someone e-mail delete it! This is a place

for love and support not judgment and crucifixion. Now IM not pointing

fingers, lets all stop flaming and get back to supporting. By the way Janie

you are doing great!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2000 9:02:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

whitforj@... writes:

<< 'm going to stay on these lists because I feel I

can be of help answering questions regarding surgery and giving support. I

whole heartedly believe in this surgery. I'm one of Dr. R's staunchest

supporters. I'm still mystified every day with the changes that this

surgery brings to your life. I started out at 350 pounds and todate weigh

192. I've never felt better in my life but I know I couldn't have done it

by myself. I did it with the love and support of family and friends.

Friends whom I have made through contact on these lists. So I'm not going

anywhere because I'd miss them too much. >>

Janie,

I'm so glad you're staying. When those emails started coming thru I

just deleted them, it wasn't a big deal to me. I figured you're computer

developed a glitch. I a pre op need the knowledge and advise of post op as

I'm still running a little scared. Oh, I'm from Lenoir,NC and my husband was

stationed at Pope Air Base beside fort bragg when he was in the Air Force

many years ago.

A Little Scared, but wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

Patient Info Emailed on 5/2/00

BMI 42

" A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Begins With A Single Step! "

[Guest guest]

Hi Janie,

Wow, it's a little hard to believe that people flamed you like that for a

technical problem that wasn't your fault (but then, it's all TOO wasy to

believe). There ARE some crazy people on this list, for sure. I hope

you're doing well and that we meet at the support group one of these days.

Steve Parsons

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2000 1:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

CMo6331945@... writes:

<<

I'm so glad you're staying. When those emails started coming thru I

just deleted them, it wasn't a big deal to me. I figured you're computer

developed a glitch. I a pre op need the knowledge and advise of post op as

I'm still running a little scared. Oh, I'm from Lenoir,NC and my husband was

stationed at Pope Air Base beside fort bragg when he was in the Air Force

many years ago.

A Little Scared, but wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC >>

************************

Cathy, that's because your special..*smile*

Trisha Lanman

praying Dr. R. will help me to the other side soon!!!

Las Vegas NV

bmi 40

[Guest guest]

Janie, thank you SO MUCH for staying on the list!!!! We need your support

so badly in here. You are a great lady!

fg

At 09:01 AM 05/09/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>

> I just want to update my decision and add a few additional comments

>regarding my computer glitch. I hope everyone's stopped receiving my e-mail

>that I didn't send out. Somehow on the onelist, my computer was set to auto

>respond which sent out numerous blank e-mails. I have no idea how this

>happened. All I know is I did not do it. It was unbelieveable at some of

>the responses and reactions I got from this support list. You flamed and

>threatened me before you knew the facts. To me, that is not support. You

>all want truthful and honest answers from all the post ops yet when this

>happened very few of you bothered to find out the truth before you found me

>guilty. Following are some examples of what was said. See if you agree if

>this is support or not.

>

> What is your problem? Got nothing better to do than clog up our

>e

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/00 9:02:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

whitforj@... writes:

<< In future, all I ask is find out the truth before you flame and

blame. Think before you act. Your actions and words can really hurt

people. If you'd taken the time to find out about me before you flamed, you

would have known I'm not that kind of person. One of Webster's definitions

of support is to endure and tolerate especially with patience. Patience was

not practiced on this one folks. >>

Janie,

First I'm glad you are staying and so sorry that you received those cruel

posts.

Second, thank you for those very wise words.

Speaking from my own experience on this list, flame mail can hurt deeply. I

misread someone's post right after died and responded out of raw

emotion. It was not one of my best moments. The letter I received in

response was the most hateful thing I've ever had addressed to me in my life.

It cut me to my soul that someone on this list, someone who is fighting the

same battle as I could have called me the names she did. Through prayer I

got over it and realized that the friends I've made and the support of the

rest of this group far outweighed one person's hate mail.

Again, I'm glad you are staying and I'm also happy to hear that you are doing

so well! Keep it up!

{{HUGS}}

Claire

Redhead in FL

MGB 4/10/00

Dr. Rutledge (http:/clos.net)

" He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it until the

day of Christ Jesus. " - Phil. 1:6

[Guest guest]

Dear Janie,

Thanks for the update. My husband was the first to notice your computers

blank messages and he said " oh by the way there's a couple of messages for you

on the computer. " What a wise guy......we laughed and then deleted ..no big

deal. He's in computers and we knew that something wasn't right. I'm glad you

are staying on the list. I have really enjoyed your posts. All the MGBers that

know you were very quick to come to your defense and some of those that didn't

lost their cool and have probably apologized by now. This has turned out to be a

very valuable lesson to us all. Hope your computer is feeling better now. Keep

in touch.

Love,

Genz

" Whitford, Janie " wrote:

> I just want to update my decision and add a few additional comments

> regarding my computer glitch. I hope everyone's stopped receiving my e-mail

> that I didn't send out. Somehow on the onelist, my computer was set to auto

> respond which sent out numerous blank e-mails. I have no idea how this

> happened. All I know is I did not do it. It was unbelieveable at some of

> the responses and reactions I got from this support list. You flamed and

> threatened me before you knew the facts. To me, that is not support. You

> all want truthful and honest answers from all the post ops yet when this

> happened very few of you bothered to find out the truth before you found me

> guilty. Following are some examples of what was said. See if you agree if

> this is support or not.

>

> What is your problem? Got nothing better to do than clog up our

> e-mails with useless messages.

>

> I see this as a cry for help and God has a plan for you. Please

> seek his guidance and contact me for help.

>

> You are toying with some techies and your computer might catch

> something you can't get rid of.......You only get one warning.

>

> I was accused of being mental, demonic, malicious plus alot of other

> things. I have and will continue to support all on this list and the post

> op list. I love meeting new people and keeping the wonderful new friends I

> have made on this list. I thank God for each and everyone. Especially my

> favorite angel, Dr. R. I'm going to stay on these lists because I feel I

> can be of help answering questions regarding surgery and giving support. I

> whole heartedly believe in this surgery. I'm one of Dr. R's staunchest

> supporters. I'm still mystified every day with the changes that this

> surgery brings to your life. I started out at 350 pounds and todate weigh

> 192. I've never felt better in my life but I know I couldn't have done it

> by myself. I did it with the love and support of family and friends.

> Friends whom I have made through contact on these lists. So I'm not going

> anywhere because I'd miss them too much.

>

> In future, all I ask is find out the truth before you flame and

> blame. Think before you act. Your actions and words can really hurt

> people. If you'd taken the time to find out about me before you flamed, you

> would have known I'm not that kind of person. One of Webster's definitions

> of support is to endure and tolerate especially with patience. Patience was

> not practiced on this one folks.

>

> Again, I apologize for all the e-mails. Hopefully the problem has

> been solved. The manager of the onelist reset my machine from auto

> responding and they've run all fixes for the I LOVE YOU virus which is

> really a killer. It is a really powerful bug.

>

> Always,

>

> Janie

>

> For future reference, my home phone is . Please call

> before you flame.

>

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Well said Janie!!!!!

Dee in NC

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Dear Lara,

What a gracious apology. I know Janie appreciates it. You will find that

we all get a bit " testy " at times and sometimes words that are typed don't

give clues to their true " tone " cues like when you are speaking to someone

personally. I think we have all been reminded of a valuable lesson. Rest

assured you are welcome in this group and everyone here is more than willing

to be a sounding board and supportive friend. All you have to do is

ask....or as is the case with some of us, just post an e-mail and you'll get

more " help " than you might have wanted....LOL

Pam in NC

Pre-Op Wt 318 @ 5 ft. 5

MGB Surg.= 1/4/99

Lowest Wt.= 143 10/99

Reversal of MGB= 10/24

Current Wt= 165-175, Holding healthy and happy

[Guest guest]

Hi Janie!

Glad you got it straightened out. It was a royal interference and

nuisance.

You might consider, though, that when posting to this mailing list

from the egroups' menu or even replying from a digest, your mailer

doesn't sit there " blank, " automatically chugging out replies. You

will see it sending. If you post from the egroups menu, it goes

through a two step process, not just one, and shows you the outgoing

message in draft and then requires another manual " send " before it

goes out.

Even set to " auto reply, " a mailer requires you to tell it to " send "

(which means you must physically push the return key or put your

cursor on " send " and click) for each of those messages to go out.

With this in mind, it is hard to imagine someone sitting there being

totally oblivious to sending out over 100 blank messages.

It apparently is not impossible to be so totally clueless that you

could do this more than 100 times, since that's what you said

happened

to you, but it is not going to be the first thing anybody thinks of

when they see it clogging up a mail list, especially when there are

trolls and people who do this sort of thing on purpose to be

malicious.

Even though you did this accidentally, it is perfectly normal for

people to have presumed otherwise. Then for you to claim people

aren't supporting you because they railed on you for it is a little

far-fetched, when the intent of the " support " here is for surgery,

not

for the technologically challened (though people here will help you

with that if you ask).

You are sure to get support and help with your questions about the

MGB, too.

Anyway, that said, welcome to the list.

Kind regards,

( " the Barbie Wannabe " )

email: lindat@...

>

> I just want to update my decision and add a few additional

comments

> regarding my computer glitch. I hope everyone's stopped receiving

my e-mail

> that I didn't send out. Somehow on the onelist, my computer was

set

to auto

> respond which sent out numerous blank e-mails. I have no idea how

this

> happened. All I know is I did not do it. It was unbelieveable at

some of

> the responses and reactions I got from this support list. You

flamed and

> threatened me before you knew the facts. To me, that is not

support. You

> all want truthful and honest answers from all the post ops yet when

this

> happened very few of you bothered to find out the truth before you

found me

> guilty. Following are some examples of what was said. See if you

agree if

> this is support or not.

>

> What is your problem? Got nothing better to do than clog up

our

> e-mails with useless messages.

>

> I see this as a cry for help and God has a plan for you.

Please

> seek his guidance and contact me for help.

>

> You are toying with some techies and your computer might catch

> something you can't get rid of.......You only get one warning.

>

> I was accused of being mental, demonic, malicious plus alot of

other

> things. I have and will continue to support all on this list and

the post

> op list. I love meeting new people and keeping the wonderful new

friends I

> have made on this list. I thank God for each and everyone.

Especially my

> favorite angel, Dr. R. I'm going to stay on these lists because I

feel I

> can be of help answering questions regarding surgery and giving

support. I

> whole heartedly believe in this surgery. I'm one of Dr. R's

staunchest

> supporters. I'm still mystified every day with the changes that

this

> surgery brings to your life. I started out at 350 pounds and

todate

weigh

> 192. I've never felt better in my life but I know I couldn't have

done it

> by myself. I did it with the love and support of family and

friends.

> Friends whom I have made through contact on these lists. So I'm

not

going

> anywhere because I'd miss them too much.

>

> In future, all I ask is find out the truth before you flame

and

> blame. Think before you act. Your actions and words can really

hurt

> people. If you'd taken the time to find out about me before you

flamed, you

> would have known I'm not that kind of person. One of Webster's

definitions

> of support is to endure and tolerate especially with patience.

Patience was

> not practiced on this one folks.

>

> Again, I apologize for all the e-mails. Hopefully the problem

has

> been solved. The manager of the onelist reset my machine from auto

> responding and they've run all fixes for the I LOVE YOU virus which

is

> really a killer. It is a really powerful bug.

>

> Always,

>

> Janie

>

> For future reference, my home phone is . Please

call

> before you flame.

>

>

> >

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