Re: Detox Pathways and Surgery Anesthesia, Painkillers

[Guest guest]

> >

>> Have come to the conclusion that damage to detox pathways from

>> amalgams led to major damage with surgeries (anaesthetics,

>> painkillers) and chemo.

>

>Would you please tell me more about this? My worst times have been

>right after surgeries, and with problems unrelated to the reason for

>surgery.

>

>After a C-section followed by a breast infection followed by

>antibiotics I ended up in the hospital for a week with colitis.

>

>After varicose vein leg surgery I had horrible pain in my head, neck

>and back for a long, long time. At first I though maybe they had

>dropped me on the floor while I was under. I get the same type of

>pain in the head and neck when I chelate with DMSA now.

The only clue was extreme sensitivity to over 20 drugs during

bioenergetic testing. Contact with just the electromagnetic surrogate

of each one sent my body out of balance. I looked them all up on

Google and most of them affect liver, kidneys and endocrine system,

or they're preserved with sulfites.

From my exploration so far, I assume my liver, kidneys, endocrine

system and GI tract were somewhat impaired from amalgam toxicity,

causing fast Phase I and slow Phase II liver detox and poor sulfite

oxidation. The surgeries and chemo sent me over the edge, causing

huge endocrine imbalance, glutathione depletion, and autoimmune

disease, leading to gallstones and gallbladder surgery. I had three

major surgeries and 4-5 minor ones over a period of 4 years and a

course of chemo in the beginning.

The sulfox thing is key, I believe, because if it's impaired you

can't metabolize drugs such as these and have to be careful with

chelators of any kind. I don't have much knowledge of this yet, so

please forgive any inaccuracies. This is what clicked while exploring

the Amalgam archives and reading Cutler's book - I can't really

explain it further at this point. I guess you could say I had an

anaesthetic-and-chemo backfire before even touching the substances

associated with amalgam removal and chelation. I think the process

may be the same.

The drugs I'm sensitive to include morphine derivatives, dental drugs

(all the -caines), skin refrigerants, all the different kinds of

anaesthetics for muscle paralysis, pain, GI tube insertion, sulfa

drugs, even contrast dye, and of course chemo. I'm exploring the

other drugs I've been exposed to like steroids, NSAIDs, anti-emetics

and anti-histamines because I suspect they'll be implicated as well.

I have been receiving BioSET treatments for almost five months and

am now treating the anaesthetics. Vicodin and Versed have been the

worst offenders so far. After treating seven drugs my chronic

constipation has gone away. During these treatments I am experiencing

mild to moderate detox symptoms along the kidney and large intestine

meridians, i.e., head, teeth, jaw, skin, neck, throat, lymph nodes,

thyroid, adrenals, kidneys, liver, GI tract, vagina, shins, and feet.

This is the only kind of detox I have been able to tolerate and I'm

amazed how it's working.

[Guest guest]

> The sulfox thing is key, I believe, because if it's impaired you

> can't metabolize drugs such as these and have to be careful with

> chelators of any kind. I don't have much knowledge of this yet,

There isn't much to know, since most of what you will find on the web

about that is the delusions of a couple of people on psychiatric

disability pensions who imagine they know some biochemistry.

Sulfoxidation is the conversion of cysteine via assorted intermediates

to sulfate. It is not relevant to the metabolism of most sulfur

bearing drugs since they don't use this pathway, and in fact most of

them are not oxidized metabolically but rather are processed through

other means, or excreted unchanged.

> The drugs I'm sensitive to include morphine derivatives, dental

drugs

> (all the -caines),

Many people are sensitive to the preservatives and vasoconstrictors in

these, not the anesthetic itself. You may wish to check and be sure

you react to something that has nothing in it but anesthetic.

> skin refrigerants, all the different kinds of

> anaesthetics for muscle paralysis, pain, GI tube insertion, sulfa

> drugs, even contrast dye, and of course chemo. I'm exploring the

> other drugs I've been exposed to like steroids, NSAIDs, anti-emetics

> and anti-histamines because I suspect they'll be implicated as well.

>

> I have been receiving BioSET treatments for almost five months and

> am now treating the anaesthetics. Vicodin and Versed have been the

> worst offenders so far. After treating seven drugs my chronic

> constipation has gone away. During these treatments I am

experiencing

> mild to moderate detox symptoms along the kidney and large intestine

> meridians, i.e., head, teeth, jaw, skin, neck, throat, lymph nodes,

> thyroid, adrenals, kidneys, liver, GI tract, vagina, shins, and

feet.

> This is the only kind of detox I have been able to tolerate and I'm

> amazed how it's working.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have be

[Guest guest]

Andy,

All of these drugs are processed through the liver. If sulfoxidation is the

wrong word, is sulfation the correct term? Or is sulfation not related to this

process? Sorry, I'm not an expert, impaired metabolism is what I meant.

These drugs are listed in the Flockhard table and also cause porphyria. From

your book, p. 50:

" The synthesis of porphyrins is impaired, resulting in difficulties making

enough hemoglobin for red blood cells, the enzymes that make energy in

mitochondria, and the enzymes that detoxify chemicals in the liver. "

I had surgery, chemo, many drugs and gallbladder removed, all on top of

mercury toxicity. It really screwed up my metabolism and left me with some

kind of seronegative rheumatoid arthritis. Luckily, I didn't plunge ahead right

away with amalgam removal and chelation recommended by my doctor. It

most likely would have made things worse because my detox pathways

aren't working. All drugs and supplements make me worse, except milk

thistle, enzymes and probios. Luckily, I've found energy medicine and diet to

work. I'm reacting less to foods requiring sulfation and symptoms have

improved 50%. I look forward to being able to deal with the mercury. I owe it

all to info provided in your book and on the various lists. I understand my

case is really extreme, but would appreciate any ideas you might have.

Thanks,

Lynne

> > The sulfox thing is key, I believe, because if it's impaired you

> > can't metabolize drugs such as these and have to be careful with

> > chelators of any kind. I don't have much knowledge of this yet,

>

> There isn't much to know, since most of what you will find on the web

> about that is the delusions of a couple of people on psychiatric

> disability pensions who imagine they know some biochemistry.

>

> Sulfoxidation is the conversion of cysteine via assorted intermediates

> to sulfate. It is not relevant to the metabolism of most sulfur

> bearing drugs since they don't use this pathway, and in fact most of

> them are not oxidized metabolically but rather are processed through

> other means, or excreted unchanged.

>

>

> > The drugs I'm sensitive to include morphine derivatives, dental

> drugs

> > (all the -caines),

>

> Many people are sensitive to the preservatives and vasoconstrictors in

> these, not the anesthetic itself. You may wish to check and be sure

> you react to something that has nothing in it but anesthetic.

>

> > skin refrigerants, all the different kinds of

> > anaesthetics for muscle paralysis, pain, GI tube insertion, sulfa

> > drugs, even contrast dye, and of course chemo. I'm exploring the

> > other drugs I've been exposed to like steroids, NSAIDs, anti-emetics

> > and anti-histamines because I suspect they'll be implicated as well.

> >

> > I have been receiving BioSET treatments for almost five months and

> > am now treating the anaesthetics. Vicodin and Versed have been the

> > worst offenders so far. After treating seven drugs my chronic

> > constipation has gone away. During these treatments I am

> experiencing

> > mild to moderate detox symptoms along the kidney and large intestine

> > meridians, i.e., head, teeth, jaw, skin, neck, throat, lymph nodes,

> > thyroid, adrenals, kidneys, liver, GI tract, vagina, shins, and

> feet.

> > This is the only kind of detox I have been able to tolerate and I'm

> > amazed how it's working.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have be

[Guest guest]

Sulfation processes certain things. This sounds more like fast phase

1 metabolism which makes you chemically sensitive. Taking grapefruit

products several times a day, or niacinamide (NOT NIACIN!) 500-1000 mg

3-4 times a day often makes this better. Improvements are immediately

noticeable.

Andy

> > > The sulfox thing is key, I believe, because if it's impaired you

> > > can't metabolize drugs such as these and have to be careful with

> > > chelators of any kind. I don't have much knowledge of this yet,

> >

> > There isn't much to know, since most of what you will find on the

web

> > about that is the delusions of a couple of people on psychiatric

> > disability pensions who imagine they know some biochemistry.

> >

> > Sulfoxidation is the conversion of cysteine via assorted

intermediates

> > to sulfate. It is not relevant to the metabolism of most sulfur

> > bearing drugs since they don't use this pathway, and in fact most

of

> > them are not oxidized metabolically but rather are processed

through

> > other means, or excreted unchanged.

> >

> >

> > > The drugs I'm sensitive to include morphine derivatives, dental

> > drugs

> > > (all the -caines),

> >

> > Many people are sensitive to the preservatives and

vasoconstrictors in

> > these, not the anesthetic itself. You may wish to check and be

sure

> > you react to something that has nothing in it but anesthetic.

> >

> > > skin refrigerants, all the different kinds of

> > > anaesthetics for muscle paralysis, pain, GI tube insertion,

sulfa

> > > drugs, even contrast dye, and of course chemo. I'm exploring the

> > > other drugs I've been exposed to like steroids, NSAIDs,

anti-emetics

> > > and anti-histamines because I suspect they'll be implicated as

well.

> > >

> > > I have been receiving BioSET treatments for almost five months

and

> > > am now treating the anaesthetics. Vicodin and Versed have been

the

> > > worst offenders so far. After treating seven drugs my chronic

> > > constipation has gone away. During these treatments I am

> > experiencing

> > > mild to moderate detox symptoms along the kidney and large

intestine

> > > meridians, i.e., head, teeth, jaw, skin, neck, throat, lymph

nodes,

> > > thyroid, adrenals, kidneys, liver, GI tract, vagina, shins, and

> > feet.

> > > This is the only kind of detox I have been able to tolerate and

I'm

> > > amazed how it's working.

> > >

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