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In a message dated 5/18/2004 12:55:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

atombombix@... writes:

>

> Thanks Marilyn for the appreciation (and by all means share it with others).

>

> Although I'm not that fat, it's more or less my story. I put it to music and

> speak the words over the top. (spoken-word + synthesizers). If you're

> interested, I could put it up on the web. It's a bit melancholic.

>

> all the best,

> Joe

>

>

Hi Joe, yes, please do! I am always interested in hearing something new! I

meant to ask where in Europe are you located? Does it make it difficult for

you to find products we mention here? Do you have to exchange everything for

metric measurements? Hugs, Marilyn

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In a message dated 5/19/2004 4:03:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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> As mentioned (correctly!), I'm from London/England. However, after

> travelling quite a bit in my youth, I now live in Switzerland. Occupation:

> artist.

>

> Yes, everything here is metric. It's far easier when you work with 10's, for

> example

> 1 liter = 10 deciliters = 100 centiliters = 1000 milliliters; 1 kilogram =

> 1000 grams;

> 1 kilometer = 1000 meters, etc.. It's strange that English-speaking

> countries

> operate in such a complicated manner with their pints, pounds/ounces and

> miles.

>

>

Hi Joe, I imagine you have lovely places to walk there. I love the pictures

of Switzerland, usually the alps, but the meadows I have seen really please

me.

Because I was taught the americam measuring system as a child, I have no

problem with it, but I have seen kids graduate high school and college without

being able to tell me how many feet in a mile (5,280). LOL Will wait for your

site to be posted. Hugs, marilyn artist? musical, painter? bye :-)

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> Weinstein or Carr

Neither - if I'm the same one, Apple. Now you know three. Might

be awhile before we visit Switzerland - but it will come!

They been trying to convert us Americans to metric for ever it seems.

You know the American mentality - " Our Way or No Way. "

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> Walking around at a high altitude will do you the world of good.

Well, first I have been pretty high in Colorado in more ways than one.

Cigarettes and Achohol... I get real dizzy at anything higher than the

pass between Ouray (Little Switzerland) and Telluride - somewhere around

14,150 feet or as you Europeans say " 4312.92 meters "

I listened to your song - pretty cool, that's for sure!

P.S. I quite smoking since then!

& T1

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Hi folks

l gre up on the meteric system...when l moved to the US l had to learn the

other one...now l think it is easy to switch to what ever..lol

Hugzz Rita

Re: [alldiabeticinternational] Joe No Sugar, Please

> In a message dated 5/19/2004 4:03:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> atombombix@... writes:

>

> >

> > As mentioned (correctly!), I'm from London/England. However, after

> > travelling quite a bit in my youth, I now live in Switzerland.

Occupation:

> > artist.

> >

> > Yes, everything here is metric. It's far easier when you work with 10's,

for

> > example

> > 1 liter = 10 deciliters = 100 centiliters = 1000 milliliters; 1 kilogram

=

> > 1000 grams;

> > 1 kilometer = 1000 meters, etc.. It's strange that English-speaking

> > countries

> > operate in such a complicated manner with their pints, pounds/ounces and

> > miles.

> >

> >

>

> Hi Joe, I imagine you have lovely places to walk there. I love the

pictures

> of Switzerland, usually the alps, but the meadows I have seen really

please

> me.

> Because I was taught the americam measuring system as a child, I have no

> problem with it, but I have seen kids graduate high school and college

without

> being able to tell me how many feet in a mile (5,280). LOL Will wait for

your

> site to be posted. Hugs, marilyn artist? musical, painter? bye :-)

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/19/2004 11:30:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,

atombombix@... writes:

> Switzerland is as beautiful as one can imagine. I live in an

> area which is surrounded by trees and have a view of the

> mountains in the background. The fact that almost everyone

> drives a car doesn't really promote nature and the pollution

> has become quite bad. I travel exclusively on foot.

>

Hi Joe, I can almost see it throughyour description. I did gointo your sight

and listened. It took a while for the buffering, but was very interesting!

Sounded almost like a futurestic (sp?) piece with the background. The

background was a little loud for me to make out the workd, but I had printed it

out

before, so I had them. Old ears I think!

Joe, your signatire makes me sad, you are sooo much more than Joe Diabetic,

you are Joe the artist. Diabetes touches our lives, but you and I and everyone

else here, are first children of God, then we are students of life, some,

such as yourself become very talented people ;-) Don't let diabetes cover you

over! Okay? HUgs and happy weekend! Marilyn diagnoses in 2000

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In a message dated 5/21/2004 10:44:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

atombombix@... writes:

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>

> I quite like JOE DIABETIC but I can see your point. This disease has taken

> away my love of life and I'm quite distressed at present. Thanks anyway for

> your encouragement. I need it.

>

> Perhaps Duncan Crow (or yourself) could help me with my main problem: For a

> few weeks now, I have a slight pain in my urinary tract. It's annoying and

> neither I nor my doctor have found the cause. All comes down to my immune

> system being compromised as I also have teeth problems (which weren't there

> before). Any clues? I promise not to do myself in before checking out all the

> possibilities ;)

>

> Joe

> Hi Joe, Pain in your urinary tract can be caused by infection, bladder, or k

idneys. Kidneys are higher up by your waist. Do you have fever? That is a

dead giveaway. Strong smelling urine is another, pee into a glass container, is

it clear and light yellow? Foggy? Dark? If anything but light yellow

appears, increase your water intake and see a doctor as soon as you can. You

said

you have talked with your doctor, which is good, but do keep a close eye on it.

Can you drink cranberry juice? Ocean spray has one made with Splenda and

that is great for your kidneys. If you feel bad or feel stressed, this will

cause your BG;s to rise, depressing you more. I will add a prayer for you (yes,

says I can pray all I want!LOL). I am more concerned than your UTI

though. I hear the depression and it sounds like you have resigned your self to

be miserable! Get out of that way of thinking it is a self fulfilling

prophecy!!! I think if you are not feeling better soon about life I mean, you

would

to wisely to consult your doctor for an antidepressant. I know you are not a

weak man, but sometimes we get knocked down so low we have to have a little

help getting up. Please consider this if you think you have reached this point.

Joe, remember you are nor diabetes, it is just something that has found a

way into your life and it will be controlled soon and you will learn diabetics

can do anything they want, within reason I mean. I am not saying " Go out for a

hot fudge sundae " , but have a scoop of sugar free ice cream (low fat too :-)

with some SF chocolate syrup on it! Yes, we can do it, we just need to use a

few modifications and remember to walk it off, too! You are already doing

that part, so you are one up on most others starting to run this gauntlet. As

far as the teeth, yes, it is related to diabetes, see your dentist every 6

months is what everything I read says. Joe, have a good weekend, cheer up, you

are

not alone, we are here and we care, big time! Hugs, Marilyn

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Hi Joe,

I can agree with Marilyn about depression being your enemy. I

became clinically depressed last year. Everything just piled up on

me: diabetes, frozen shoulder, stomach ulcer, worry about my son in

college, and finally...my father's death. To make a very long story

short, once I started seeing a therapist and went on Paxil and

Wellbutrin, I began to get better. It was different as night and

day.

Now I'm back to myself -- in fact, I'm more myself than I've been in

ages. Things improved. I still have diabetes, but I don't dwell on

it. I know you can't just will yourself to get better, but meds are

a real blessing. Don't put it off.

I think this site is a great idea. I don't really know any other

diabetics to talk to. It's comforting to know someone else

understands.

Ellen

> In a message dated 5/21/2004 10:44:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> atombombix@y... writes:

>

> >

> >

> > I quite like JOE DIABETIC but I can see your point. This disease

has taken

> > away my love of life and I'm quite distressed at present. Thanks

anyway for

> > your encouragement. I need it.

> >

> > Perhaps Duncan Crow (or yourself) could help me with my main

problem: For a

> > few weeks now, I have a slight pain in my urinary tract. It's

annoying and

> > neither I nor my doctor have found the cause. All comes down to

my immune

> > system being compromised as I also have teeth problems (which

weren't there

> > before). Any clues? I promise not to do myself in before

checking out all the

> > possibilities ;)

> >

> > Joe

> > Hi Joe, Pain in your urinary tract can be caused by infection,

bladder, or k

> idneys. Kidneys are higher up by your waist. Do you have fever?

That is a

> dead giveaway. Strong smelling urine is another, pee into a glass

container, is

> it clear and light yellow? Foggy? Dark? If anything but light

yellow

> appears, increase your water intake and see a doctor as soon as

you can. You said

> you have talked with your doctor, which is good, but do keep a

close eye on it.

> Can you drink cranberry juice? Ocean spray has one made with

Splenda and

> that is great for your kidneys. If you feel bad or feel stressed,

this will

> cause your BG;s to rise, depressing you more. I will add a prayer

for you (yes,

> says I can pray all I want!LOL). I am more concerned than

your UTI

> though. I hear the depression and it sounds like you have

resigned your self to

> be miserable! Get out of that way of thinking it is a self

fulfilling

> prophecy!!! I think if you are not feeling better soon about life

I mean, you would

> to wisely to consult your doctor for an antidepressant. I know

you are not a

> weak man, but sometimes we get knocked down so low we have to have

a little

> help getting up. Please consider this if you think you have

reached this point.

> Joe, remember you are nor diabetes, it is just something that has

found a

> way into your life and it will be controlled soon and you will

learn diabetics

> can do anything they want, within reason I mean. I am not

saying " Go out for a

> hot fudge sundae " , but have a scoop of sugar free ice cream (low

fat too :-)

> with some SF chocolate syrup on it! Yes, we can do it, we just

need to use a

> few modifications and remember to walk it off, too! You are

already doing

> that part, so you are one up on most others starting to run this

gauntlet. As

> far as the teeth, yes, it is related to diabetes, see your dentist

every 6

> months is what everything I read says. Joe, have a good weekend,

cheer up, you are

> not alone, we are here and we care, big time! Hugs, Marilyn

>

>

>

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> In a message dated 5/21/2004 10:44:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> atombombix@y... writes:

>

> >

> >

> > I quite like JOE DIABETIC but I can see your point. This disease

has taken

> > away my love of life and I'm quite distressed at present. Thanks

anyway for

> > your encouragement. I need it.

> >

> > Perhaps Duncan Crow (or yourself) could help me with my main

problem: For a

> > few weeks now, I have a slight pain in my urinary tract. It's

annoying and

> > neither I nor my doctor have found the cause. All comes down to

my immune

> > system being compromised as I also have teeth problems (which

weren't there

> > before). Any clues? I promise not to do myself in before checking

out all the

> > possibilities ;)

> >

> > Joe

> > Hi Joe, Pain in your urinary tract can be caused by infection,

bladder, or k

> idneys. Kidneys are higher up by your waist. Do you have fever?

That is a

> dead giveaway. Strong smelling urine is another, pee into a glass

container, is

> it clear and light yellow? Foggy? Dark? If anything but light

yellow

> appears, increase your water intake and see a doctor as soon as you

can. You said

> you have talked with your doctor, which is good, but do keep a

close eye on it.

> Can you drink cranberry juice? Ocean spray has one made with

Splenda and

> that is great for your kidneys. If you feel bad or feel stressed,

this will

> cause your BG;s to rise, depressing you more. I will add a prayer

for you (yes,

> says I can pray all I want!LOL). I am more concerned than

your UTI

> though. I hear the depression and it sounds like you have resigned

your self to

> be miserable! Get out of that way of thinking it is a self

fulfilling

> prophecy!!! I think if you are not feeling better soon about life

I mean, you would

> to wisely to consult your doctor for an antidepressant. I know you

are not a

> weak man, but sometimes we get knocked down so low we have to have

a little

> help getting up. Please consider this if you think you have

reached this point.

> Joe, remember you are nor diabetes, it is just something that has

found a

> way into your life and it will be controlled soon and you will

learn diabetics

> can do anything they want, within reason I mean. I am not

saying " Go out for a

> hot fudge sundae " , but have a scoop of sugar free ice cream (low

fat too :-)

> with some SF chocolate syrup on it! Yes, we can do it, we just

need to use a

> few modifications and remember to walk it off, too! You are

already doing

> that part, so you are one up on most others starting to run this

gauntlet. As

> far as the teeth, yes, it is related to diabetes, see your dentist

every 6

> months is what everything I read says. Joe, have a good weekend,

cheer up, you are

> not alone, we are here and we care, big time! Hugs, Marilyn

>

>

>

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