Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Sue, I agree the logo is perfect!!! Hugs, Penny 173/158/130 Goal for Oct 31st is-----150!!!!! Visit me at: http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html " >The__Hom http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 , I hear where you are coming from, but it also sounds to me like you have a lot of anger. I don't want to turn this into a therapy session--just some stuff to think about. I used to work at Lane a clothing store for 'large women'. At the time I weighed about 230 lbs, I'm down to 180.5 now. Anyway, there's no better way to say it than this--a lot of us 'large women' have really bad attitudes. I think a lot of it stems from low self-esteem and then it gets projected out as anger. There was a 'thin' girl who used to work there and she got tons of crap just for being small. Customers wouldn't ask her advice and fellow sales associates would make jokes about the skinny chick. It was so self-defeating. Anyhow, I went in there the other day to look at clothes (i still where a 14/16) and I got a lot of attitude. ME! Apparently i'm too fat to be 'normal' but not fat enough to shop there with respect. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! So, my point is, and I hope I made it, is that we can harbor a lot of anger. For being made to feel (by every tv, movie,and magazine) that we are not normal or beautiful. I think we need to take a closer look at ourselves and decide--do I like who I am? I sure like me! and I felt a lot better when I finally realized that! Hope this isn't to preachy or whatever. Just wanted to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 , No fire throwers here, You have a right to your opinion and also to voice it. Your right society treats heavy people horribly!!! Thats why Sue started this list so we all had a place to go to get treated with respect. Hugs, Penny 173/158/130 Goal for Oct 31st is-----150!!!!! Visit me at: http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html " >The__Hom http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Hi Sue Yes, I like it too! I think it is a good reminder to think of ourselves as beautiful even if we aren't at our goal weight. And we are beautiful because we're all unique and a precious resource on the earth. I needed to remind myself of that today. Bev in Selah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 I woudn't think about putting you down for expressing your opinion. Hopefully we can all do that here and still be accepted even though our opinion my differ. As I read your email, I too was reminded of all the times in my young life I was called " fatty " and other equally mean things--not only by other kids but by my family. It hurts no less now (I'm 49) than it did when I was 6. I too strive to be and feel like I used to when I was slender. When I was 13 I magically lost about 50 lbs--have no idea why but I did do alot of dancing in the living room to the Beatles. Then when I got pregnant the first time I gained about 50 lbs and then lost it all and was 125 lbs--after the second pregnancy I only got back to 135 and then the third--well, it wasn't until I divorced my first husband that I lost weight (it was an incredibly abusive marriage--I was lucky to have survived)--back down to 128. Then I got married again when I was 33 and ever since then I've continued to gain weight. I diet like I used to but I don't lose the weight the same way. I've felt horrible about myself for so long. This diet is like my last gasp--it has to work. But in the meantime, I know life is short and I prefer to work on accepting myself the way I am and maybe even trying to love myself. There are good things about me still--even though I'm overweight and so I prefer to think of myself as beautiful (if I can--sometimes I just can't) as much as possible and that means I have to think of myself as big (because thats what I am) and beautiful. That's what the statement means to me. I am also working on Dr Phil's book Life Strategies to deal with the tremendous hurt that lies just under the surface. So, now I cry and write instead of eating chocolate ice cream and reese's peanut butter cups. Just another opinion . Bev in Selah 180/176/150 170 by 10-31-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Sue, For Me, Your logo, " Big and Beautiful but Losing " , seems to fit. The reality is we are big or we would not be here, beautiful relates to the inner peace you feel after the abstinence from carbos and weight loss comes. Please don't change the logo, it is appropriate!!! , Jax. Florida http://homepages.go.com/~ladybob/ladybob.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 << And sorry, again, and maybe some will hate my guts for saying it, but " big " is NOT beautiful to me. I don't want to be " big " , that's what I'm fighting and praying for with all the strength that I have. >> I am sorry to but I really have to agree. Now, I am not saying to remove it for me but I do want to voice my opinion so that does not feel alone here!! I did not feel beautiful when I weighed over 200 pounds. I am not saying that I wasn't, my dh thought that I was, but I did not feel like it. I don't like being big. That is why I am doing this. I am now a size 12/14 and do not feel so big any more. I want to wear a size 10 and feel like I used to when I was 130 pounds and thought that I was fat! It was horribly painful to me to be big and it is painful for me now even though I am not so big. I want to be the person that I feel on the inside. I was always thin until I had kids and my thyroid quit. I feel 130 inside and that is who I want to be not big and beautiful. I suppose that is something I need therapy for!! LOL!! Teena sorry if I have offended anyone, it was not my intention! I think you all are just wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Thanks I was considering changeing it but alot of ppl seem to like it the way it is. --- karinc karinc@...> wrote: > Sue, > For Me, > Your logo, " Big and Beautiful but Losing " , seems to > fit. The reality is we > are big or we would not be here, beautiful relates > to the inner peace you > feel after the abstinence from carbos and weight > loss comes. Please don't > change the logo, it is appropriate!!! > , Jax. Florida > http://homepages.go.com/~ladybob/ladybob.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Forget the rest We are the best. BIG AND BEAUTIFUL > BUT LOSING!!!!!! > > ===== Sue List Manager 310/260.5/180 Goal for Challenge 2 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Well, I've seen two say they like it, that's not a lot. Personally, I have to admit I don't like it. I hate buying " large " or " women " size clothes, I hate buying " Just My Size " pantyhose, and I really hate being told in " real life " that I'm " big, but beautiful " - you have " and " and that's marginally better, but I about choked when I first noticed it at the bottom of the e-mail letters. Positive motivational statements are great, but I don't need ANY reminders of how " big " I am... I know, I know, and I'm trying to DO something about it. If I thought it was " beautiful " , I'd stay that way and join the " fat acceptance " newsgroup. But sorry, I don't think it's beautiful, or healthy, so I'm changing that. When I was a senior in college I thought I was overweight - and I was, by about 20 or maybe 30 lbs. I had a photo taken for my yearbook, and I want to cry now just thinking about it. ... youth is wasted on the young, for sure! A few years and more than a few pounds later I was at my mothers house and she was showing the photos to one of my brother's friends, that I kind of thought was cute, and we had a rather embarrassing moment of dead silence when he pointed at my picture, while I was standing right there and asked " who is that? " - and I could have sunk into the floor. Worst part was the obvious admiration he had in his voice when he asked... Now I know I'm never going to look like I did in 1986 again, but I see no reason not to set a goal of getting down to about that weight range again. And sorry, again, and maybe some will hate my guts for saying it, but " big " is NOT beautiful to me. I don't want to be " big " , that's what I'm fighting and praying for with all the strength that I have. Again, sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, and maybe it seems shallow and like focusing on " appearances " or something, but be honest, the world treats " big " people harshly, and the world is mean to " big " people, and I'm tired of it, and tired of being alone. My " real goal " , to be honest?? It's not to " get healthy " - I want, plain and simple, to get to a decent weight and develop some kind of social life, and who knows? Ok... I'm done, I'm done... asbestos suit on... a.k.a. ~ Natty's mommy lanat@... http://www.javanet.com/~lanat/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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