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In a message dated 10/05/1999 8:27:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

lsettles@... writes:

<< could not tell

from the ingredients on the other product if it had ECA in the

proportions recommended for weight loss stacking. >>

Lynette,

All the stacks have basically the same ingredients. The Ripped Fuel (one

of the girls in my step aerobics class lost 17 lbs. on Ripped Fuel) and

Metabolift have 910 mg. Ma Huang and 334 mg. Guarana along with willow bark

and a few other ingredients the manufacturer chooses to add. These are

considered herbal stacks because Ma Huang and Guarana are herbal forms of

ephedrine and caffeine and willow bark is supposed to do the same thing as

aspirin. In the ad in my GNC magazine for ECA Stack they claim Willow Bark

does not do the same thing as aspirin in the stack, but I've heard of lots of

people losing weight using these herbal stacks, so I'm not going by their

claims.

I went to Vitamin World today and they had Mega Diet Caps that were

cheaper than what I found on the internet and had the same ingredients as the

others stacks, so when I finish the bottle I ordered I might try them out.

Marilyn

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In a message dated 10/6/1999 2:08:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

GRSHOPER1@... writes:

<< when I finish the bottle I ordered I might try them out. >>

Marilyn,

you are so close to your goal, you think you will need more stacks than what

you bought??

Hugs,

Penny

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In a message dated 10/06/1999 11:42:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

Shadcat708@... writes:

<< Marilyn,

you are so close to your goal, you think you will need more stacks than what

you bought??

>>

Penny,

LOL...You read my mind!!! Actually, I thought about this after I sent the

post. I'll see how the stack works for me and hopefully I won't need

anymore. My main reason for stacking is not to help me achieve my goal

weight any faster, but to help me get rid of the fat on my body...especially

around my stomach. Two pregnancies close together were not kind. Although my

stomach is disappearing there is still a lot of fat on it. Supposedly, the

stacks help enhance the fat burning process....we shall see!

Marilyn

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Marilyn,

Good! I was going to start worrying about you!! LOL Let me know how it goes.

Everything I read on it says diabetics shouldn't use it cause it stimulates

insulin. I wonder if they just mean diabetics that are on insulin shots or

all diabetics??My numbers have been great, but I am leary about it cause of

that.

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Penny

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In a message dated 10/06/1999 12:14:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

Shadcat708@... writes:

<< I wonder if they just mean diabetics that are on insulin shots or

all diabetics??My numbers have been great, but I am leary about it cause of

that. >>

The GNC magazine that came in the mail the other day had an article about ECA

stacking. (It seems to be the big thing right now.) It said, " These natural

stimulants, however, should not be taken by anyone with heart disease, high

blood pressure, diabetes or any other medical condition.

I think you are smart to stay away from the stacks.

It also states that, " Some athletes have found that conjugated linoleic

acids (CLA), chromium and vanadyl sulfate help them to lose body fat. I

think those ingredients can be found in Dr. Atkins' Dieters Advantage, or one

of his other supplements.

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Marilyn,

You are right, the linoleic acid is in the Essential Oils, the Chromium is in

the dieters advantage adn the Basic #3 and vanadyl sulfate is in Basic #3. I

was going to stop basic 3 though cause of the price, It is 180 tablets for

$35 a month and you have to take 6 of them a day!! Maybe I can find something

cheaper at gnc.

Hugs,

Penny

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In a message dated 10/06/1999 1:15:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Shadcat708@...

writes:

<< Maybe I can find something

cheaper at gnc.

>>

Penny,

I bet you can definitely find something cheaper. You could probably buy

each individually at a cheaper price, and not have to take so many.

Marilyn

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<< I went to Vitamin World today and they had Mega Diet Caps that were

cheaper than what I found on the internet and had the same ingredients as

the

others stacks, so when I finish the bottle I ordered I might try them out. >>

Does the Mega Diet Caps have the same ingredients as the Ripped Fuel? I am

more interested in the herbal form. I try to stick with herbal whenever I

can. Do you know if it has the same side effects though? I just don't want

to feel like I am racing all day!! But I would like to give it a try. And

where do you get the Ripped Fuel? GNC? Teena

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In a message dated 10/06/1999 3:48:05 PM !!!First Boot!!!, TLLOVESHIM@...

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<< Does the Mega Diet Caps have the same ingredients as the Ripped Fuel? I

am

more interested in the herbal form. I try to stick with herbal whenever I

can. Do you know if it has the same side effects though? I just don't want

to feel like I am racing all day!! But I would like to give it a try. And

where do you get the Ripped Fuel? GNC? Teena

>>

Teena,

Yes, the Mega Diet Caps contain the same ingredients as Ripped Fuel, and

yes, you can buy Ripped Fuel at GNC. In my GNC mag. it has it listed as

$12.80 for 60 caps., $23.20 for 120 and $35.20 for 200 on sale. Or, $10.24,

$18.56 and $25.60 if you get the 20% discount also.

From what I've read you need to ease yourself into this so you don't get

the " wired " feeling. Take half a dosage for a week, then add to it each

week. You body should become accustomed and you shouldn't have that racey

feeling. Also from what I've read, if you do feel the effects they should

wear off after the first week. If you are still feeling anxious, having

insomnia, jittery after this time you should discontinue use.

Marilyn

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Cyndi,

everyones taste is different. I tried the advantage bars and did not like

them at all, But I like the shakes. I drink one every morning for breakfast.

I get Chocolate and Vanilla. I never tried the cappachino(sp) Others can not

stand the shakes but like the bars.

Hugs,

Penny

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