Just my humble opinion ;-)

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In a message dated 5/8/2004 5:36:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,

duncancrow@... writes:

>

> Can the careful use of entheogens really aid in spiritual

> development? Many who have experienced it first-hand would answer in

> the affirmative. In a famous psilocybe experiment in 1962, of nine

> divinity students given the placebo, five (55.5 percent) were still

> in the ministry 25 years later; of the ten given the manna, eight (80

> percent) were still in the ministry. The researcher remarked, " All of

> the psilocybin subjects…but none of the controls, still considered

> their original experience to have had genuinely mystical elements and

> to have made a uniquely valuable contribution to their spiritual

> life. The positive changes… had persisted over time and had deepened

> in some cases. "

>

> That last paragraph is the kicker, isn't it? Note that these

> individuals are qualified to offer these opinions.

>

> Please don't shoot the messenger. I didn't come up with this on my

> own. Now can we get back to science and organic subjects and

> hopefully stay with those topics?

>

> regards,

>

> (rev) Duncan Crow

>

>

Hi Duncan, funny, but I have never felt the need or desire to have a drug

induced religious state. I kind of doubt that a Doctorate in Theology would be

enhanced by this, either. I remember the 60's quite well. I doubt very much

that O'Leary's " trips " left him with any special education, or views

that would have been of interest to a normal person. Just my humble opinion

;-) I think this is a whole lot of hogwash! LOL Enjoyed today immensely as

my youngest granddaughter was dedicated to The Lord. Big hugs, Marilyn

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> I remember the 60's quite well. I doubt very much that

> O'Leary's " trips " left him with any special education, or views

Marilyn,

There might be one or two in the world that might disagrees with that

statement...

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In a message dated 5/10/2004 2:47:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, arenot@...

writes:

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> Marilyn,

>

> There might be one or two in the world that might disagrees with that

> statement...

>

> Name withheld for protection of identity

>

>

LOLOL yes, I imagine there are plenty left around! I remember driving up

to the Haight Ashbury about this time. It felt like it was a movie set of a

very strange movie. Hugs, M