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> Did he test you for thyroid disease? Did he do a thyroid

> auto-antibodies test? If so, did he levels come out hight?

> >

> I'd like to know more of why your doctor put you on that med.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Cathy

Hiya Cathy...

Dr did do a thyroid test...said levels were " normal " , but a lot of

times the T3 will come back showing normal when actually it's not.

Instead of ordering another round of expensiveve blood tests (this

was my fifth) we thought we'd try it for 1 month. I go back to Dr

Friday. I was having a flare the day I was at Dr. and didn't ask as

many ?'s as I should have. This is my Fourth Dr. and the only one

that understands Fibro so I put myself into his (and Gods) hands.His

nurse also has it and is in the process of getting her C.E. credits

in Fibro/Cf treatment.

I know I cannot live the rest of my life like this. If it is deemed

safe and my Dr agrees and watches over me I will try it. Life is too

precious to watch it pas you by....

Calla

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> Did he test you for thyroid disease? Did he do a thyroid

> auto-antibodies test? If so, did he levels come out hight?

> >

> I'd like to know more of why your doctor put you on that med.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Cathy

Hiya Cathy...

Dr did do a thyroid test...said levels were " normal " , but a lot of

times the T3 will come back showing normal when actually it's not.

Instead of ordering another round of expensiveve blood tests (this

was my fifth) we thought we'd try it for 1 month. I go back to Dr

Friday. I was having a flare the day I was at Dr. and didn't ask as

many ?'s as I should have. This is my Fourth Dr. and the only one

that understands Fibro so I put myself into his (and Gods) hands.His

nurse also has it and is in the process of getting her C.E. credits

in Fibro/Cf treatment.

I know I cannot live the rest of my life like this. If it is deemed

safe and my Dr agrees and watches over me I will try it. Life is too

precious to watch it pas you by....

Calla

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I wish my doctor would at least let me try it. He is good in

understanding Fibro, and treating it (I know many that go to him for

FM), but when it comes to this, he won't budge. My sister feels better

since being on the Synthroid (?) but she was not diagnosed with FM, just

had fatigue.

I've changed doctors so many times, I just don't want to change

again...who knows if I'll get a nasty one who doesn't even believe in

Fibro. I need to go in again and have my thyroid tested again...the

past 6 months have been bad as far as the fatigue goes...Fibro pain

fluctuates, always worse because of the fatigue.

Thanks for your answers. Wish more doctors would at least give this

method a try.

Koala-t hugs,

Cathy

>

> >

> > Did he test you for thyroid disease?  Did he do a thyroid

> > auto-antibodies test?  If so, did he levels come out hight?

> > >

> > I'd like to know more of why your doctor put you on that med.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Cathy

>

> Hiya Cathy...

>

> Dr did do a thyroid test...said levels were " normal " , but a lot of

> times the T3 will come back showing normal when actually it's not.

> Instead of ordering another round of expensiveve blood tests (this

> was my fifth) we thought we'd try it for 1 month. I go back to Dr

> Friday. I was having a flare the day I was at Dr. and didn't ask as

> many ?'s as I should have. This is my Fourth Dr. and the only one

> that understands Fibro so I put myself into his (and Gods) hands.His

> nurse also has it and is in the process of getting her C.E. credits

> in Fibro/Cf treatment.

> I know I cannot live the rest of my life like this. If it is deemed

> safe and my Dr agrees and watches over me I will try it. Life is too

> precious to watch it pas you by....

> Calla

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I wish my doctor would at least let me try it. He is good in

understanding Fibro, and treating it (I know many that go to him for

FM), but when it comes to this, he won't budge. My sister feels better

since being on the Synthroid (?) but she was not diagnosed with FM, just

had fatigue.

I've changed doctors so many times, I just don't want to change

again...who knows if I'll get a nasty one who doesn't even believe in

Fibro. I need to go in again and have my thyroid tested again...the

past 6 months have been bad as far as the fatigue goes...Fibro pain

fluctuates, always worse because of the fatigue.

Thanks for your answers. Wish more doctors would at least give this

method a try.

Koala-t hugs,

Cathy

>

> >

> > Did he test you for thyroid disease?  Did he do a thyroid

> > auto-antibodies test?  If so, did he levels come out hight?

> > >

> > I'd like to know more of why your doctor put you on that med.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Cathy

>

> Hiya Cathy...

>

> Dr did do a thyroid test...said levels were " normal " , but a lot of

> times the T3 will come back showing normal when actually it's not.

> Instead of ordering another round of expensiveve blood tests (this

> was my fifth) we thought we'd try it for 1 month. I go back to Dr

> Friday. I was having a flare the day I was at Dr. and didn't ask as

> many ?'s as I should have. This is my Fourth Dr. and the only one

> that understands Fibro so I put myself into his (and Gods) hands.His

> nurse also has it and is in the process of getting her C.E. credits

> in Fibro/Cf treatment.

> I know I cannot live the rest of my life like this. If it is deemed

> safe and my Dr agrees and watches over me I will try it. Life is too

> precious to watch it pas you by....

> Calla

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

> HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-

> cfs.html

> LIST OWNER:  " Missy " Parrot004@...>

> UNSUBSCRIBE:fibromyalgia-cfs-unsubscribe

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I wish my doctor would at least let me try it. He is good in

understanding Fibro, and treating it (I know many that go to him for

FM), but when it comes to this, he won't budge. My sister feels better

since being on the Synthroid (?) but she was not diagnosed with FM, just

had fatigue.

I've changed doctors so many times, I just don't want to change

again...who knows if I'll get a nasty one who doesn't even believe in

Fibro. I need to go in again and have my thyroid tested again...the

past 6 months have been bad as far as the fatigue goes...Fibro pain

fluctuates, always worse because of the fatigue.

Thanks for your answers. Wish more doctors would at least give this

method a try.

Koala-t hugs,

Cathy

>

> >

> > Did he test you for thyroid disease?  Did he do a thyroid

> > auto-antibodies test?  If so, did he levels come out hight?

> > >

> > I'd like to know more of why your doctor put you on that med.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Cathy

>

> Hiya Cathy...

>

> Dr did do a thyroid test...said levels were " normal " , but a lot of

> times the T3 will come back showing normal when actually it's not.

> Instead of ordering another round of expensiveve blood tests (this

> was my fifth) we thought we'd try it for 1 month. I go back to Dr

> Friday. I was having a flare the day I was at Dr. and didn't ask as

> many ?'s as I should have. This is my Fourth Dr. and the only one

> that understands Fibro so I put myself into his (and Gods) hands.His

> nurse also has it and is in the process of getting her C.E. credits

> in Fibro/Cf treatment.

> I know I cannot live the rest of my life like this. If it is deemed

> safe and my Dr agrees and watches over me I will try it. Life is too

> precious to watch it pas you by....

> Calla

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

> HOME PAGE:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/7127/fibromyalgia-

> cfs.html

> LIST OWNER:  " Missy " Parrot004@...>

> UNSUBSCRIBE:fibromyalgia-cfs-unsubscribe

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You can test for a low thyroid symptoms and keep a log to take to your

doctor. Dr Lowe has a sight on it.

I finally found an understanding doctor who looked at my FSH being low

normal and just did a trial of amour thyroid...30mgs after I first took

my basal temp for a week to call in my numbers. We monitor it by my temps

and bloodwork. It helped a bit but not as much as I hoped.

He also suggested NADH supplement for energy. It doesn't jangle me at

all, just helps with the fog

Dr Lowe has an extensive book on FM and thyroid but I can't afford it

right now. Has anyone read it?

Blessings,

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You can test for a low thyroid symptoms and keep a log to take to your

doctor. Dr Lowe has a sight on it.

I finally found an understanding doctor who looked at my FSH being low

normal and just did a trial of amour thyroid...30mgs after I first took

my basal temp for a week to call in my numbers. We monitor it by my temps

and bloodwork. It helped a bit but not as much as I hoped.

He also suggested NADH supplement for energy. It doesn't jangle me at

all, just helps with the fog

Dr Lowe has an extensive book on FM and thyroid but I can't afford it

right now. Has anyone read it?

Blessings,

Marie

www.anaturalplace.com

________________________________________________________________

GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!

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Does anyone know how I could go about finding a good doctor who understands

FMS/CFS? I live in So Cal. Do we have access to any search engines for this?

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Does anyone know how I could go about finding a good doctor who understands

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Does anyone know how I could go about finding a good doctor who understands

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> I understand that the thyroid often gets damaged by the mercury. I

> have also read that it doesn't recover even when the mercury is

> chelated from the body. Therefore the thyroid condition has to be

> treated separately. Is this correct?

The damage may or may not be permanent, but you do need to take

thyroid hormone at least temporarily in many cases.

Andy . . . .. . .

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> I understand that the thyroid often gets damaged by the mercury. I

> have also read that it doesn't recover even when the mercury is

> chelated from the body. Therefore the thyroid condition has to be

> treated separately. Is this correct?

The damage may or may not be permanent, but you do need to take

thyroid hormone at least temporarily in many cases.

Andy . . . .. . .

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Does this mean your TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) tested high or low? I am

assuming it tested low, and as a result your thyroid wasn't functioning

properly? I'm very interested in this since my TSH recently dropped to the

basement after 2 years of normal measurements. My doctor thinks it's a lab

error!

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Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr, MD.

This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you to get

well.

cf young cfyoung4@...> wrote:

> For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin every day. It

> helps, but I

> > still don't feel 100%. I think because my adrenals are worn out

> and

> not

> > working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary isn't sending the

> right

> > signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal formula

> recommended

> by my

> > naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

Do you have your FT3 tested as well? You might benefit from adding

cytomel to your synthroid, or switching to Armourl.

The pituitary thing you mentioned is based on your TSH. Do you have the

numbers, and what ranges your lab gives for normal?

BTW, constipation is a big symptom of hypothyroidism. Having IBD

complicates the meaning of constipation, but is something to bear in

mind.

.. Sure

> > enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid problem, while the

>

> blood

> > test said that everything was just fine!!! Go figure. Because of

> this, I

> > just don't trust the blood test.

>

Thyroid disorders can be more subtle than labs show, but a big part of

the problem is that the most appropriate tests are often not given, or

the wrong tests are given too much weight (like TSH) and then, to add

insult to injury, old ranges for TSH are used. I'm on a few thyroid

support groups and I've seen patients really able to make progress once

they regularly get copies of all their labs, learn what the numbers mean,

and start insisting on the best tests.

Take care, Fay

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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I take a product called thyrostim from Biotics and

have avoided going on synthroid, have a friend who

went on Thyrostim and got off of synthroid altogether.

Maybe that would help you. They also have a pituitary

formula as well.

Dana

--- davis brandijacksondavis@...>

wrote:

> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC "

> by Mark Starr, MD.

> This book is very infomative, easy to understand,

> and will equip you to get well.

>

>

>

> cf young cfyoung4@...> wrote:

> > For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin

> every day. It

> > helps, but I

> > > still don't feel 100%. I think because my

> adrenals are worn out

> > and

> > not

> > > working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary

> isn't sending the

> > right

> > > signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal

> formula

> > recommended

> > by my

> > > naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

>

> Do you have your FT3 tested as well? You might

> benefit from adding

> cytomel to your synthroid, or switching to Armourl.

> The pituitary thing you mentioned is based on your

> TSH. Do you have the

> numbers, and what ranges your lab gives for normal?

>

> BTW, constipation is a big symptom of

> hypothyroidism. Having IBD

> complicates the meaning of constipation, but is

> something to bear in

> mind.

>

> . Sure

> > > enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid

> problem, while the

> >

> > blood

> > > test said that everything was just fine!!! Go

> figure. Because of

> > this, I

> > > just don't trust the blood test.

> >

> Thyroid disorders can be more subtle than labs show,

> but a big part of

> the problem is that the most appropriate tests are

> often not given, or

> the wrong tests are given too much weight (like TSH)

> and then, to add

> insult to injury, old ranges for TSH are used. I'm

> on a few thyroid

> support groups and I've seen patients really able to

> make progress once

> they regularly get copies of all their labs, learn

> what the numbers mean,

> and start insisting on the best tests.

>

> Take care, Fay

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet,

> please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_

> by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT) davis

brandijacksondavis@...> writes:

> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr,

> MD.

> This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you

> to get well.

>

>

Could you tell me more about the book? (Please feel free to contact me

off list.) I've never been hypo myself but am on lists with many hypo

people and know that Shomon's book, Living Well with Hypothyroidism,

and the Shameses' Thyroid Power are quite helpful. I'd love to add to the

list.

Take care, Fay

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I have a feeling that my condition is more complicated than just

hypothyroidism. I've been taking levothyroxin for months now, and I do feel

better, but still suffering from fatique (I believe mainly from reactions to

foods). I sensitize to foods incredibly fast.

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>

>

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT) davis

> brandijacksondavis@...> writes:

>> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr,

>> MD.

>> This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you

>> to get well.

>>

>>

>

> Could you tell me more about the book? (Please feel free to contact me

> off list.) I've never been hypo myself but am on lists with many hypo

> people and know that Shomon's book, Living Well with Hypothyroidism,

> and the Shameses' Thyroid Power are quite helpful. I'd love to add to the

> list.

> Take care, Fay

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Hi Fay

The book is comprehensive: it discusses history, etiology, research, and

treatment. Even though Dr. Starr is an MD, the book is brutally honest about

allopathic medicine and how it's failed approximately 80% of the population. Dr,

Starr does not recommend synthetic drugs, instead he reccomends natural

dessicated thyroid, which is, and has been proven more effective. The treatment

can resolve many problems including neurological, vascular, and others. There is

also information about adrenals. I've personally met Mark, he is open to

alternative/complementary health treatments for himself and his family. This

book is significant.

cf young cfyoung4@...> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT) davis

brandijacksondavis@...> writes:

> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr,

> MD.

> This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you

> to get well.

>

>

Could you tell me more about the book? (Please feel free to contact me

off list.) I've never been hypo myself but am on lists with many hypo

people and know that Shomon's book, Living Well with Hypothyroidism,

and the Shameses' Thyroid Power are quite helpful. I'd love to add to the

list.

Take care, Fay

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Dear Marilyn

Your condition may be more complicated, but the book explains neurologcal,

vascular, autoimmune conditions and others. You are on a synthetic medication

that commonly does not address all of the symptomatology of hypothyroidism. Get

the book; it will help you.

Marilyn Sawyer marilyn1972@...> wrote:

I have a feeling that my condition is more complicated than just

hypothyroidism. I've been taking levothyroxin for months now, and I do feel

better, but still suffering from fatique (I believe mainly from reactions to

foods). I sensitize to foods incredibly fast.

Re: Re: Thyroid

>

>

> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT) davis

> brandijacksondavis@...> writes:

>> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr,

>> MD.

>> This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you

>> to get well.

>>

>>

>

> Could you tell me more about the book? (Please feel free to contact me

> off list.) I've never been hypo myself but am on lists with many hypo

> people and know that Shomon's book, Living Well with Hypothyroidism,

> and the Shameses' Thyroid Power are quite helpful. I'd love to add to the

> list.

> Take care, Fay

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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OK - here I go to the bookstore again! But seriously, thanks to all who

have responded.

marilyn

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>

>

>>

>>

>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:41:25 -0700 (PDT) davis

>> brandijacksondavis@...> writes:

>>> Please read " HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 : THE EPIDEMIC " by Mark Starr,

>>> MD.

>>> This book is very infomative, easy to understand, and will equip you

>>> to get well.

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Could you tell me more about the book? (Please feel free to contact me

>> off list.) I've never been hypo myself but am on lists with many hypo

>> people and know that Shomon's book, Living Well with Hypothyroidism,

>> and the Shameses' Thyroid Power are quite helpful. I'd love to add to the

>> list.

>> Take care, Fay

>>

>>

>>

>> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

>> websites:

>> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> and

>> http://www.pecanbread.com

>>

>>

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> Dear Marilyn

>

> Your condition may be more complicated, but the book explains neurologcal,

vascular,

autoimmune conditions and others. You are on a synthetic medication that

commonly

does not address all of the symptomatology of hypothyroidism. Get the book; it

will help

you.

>

>

There is a more natural thyroid extract from pigs. Another major controversy in

the

treatment of hypothyroidism concerns the use of natural glandular concentrates

or

extracts containing thyroid hormone (e.g., Armour Desiccated Thyroid Hormone,

Nathroid,

Westhroid, and other brands derived from the thyroid gland of the pig) vs.

synthetic

(laboratory-made) thyroid (e.g., Synthroid, Levothroid, levothyroxin, etc.). Not

surprisingly,

most conventional physicians prefer the synthetic product, which is widely

promoted by

pharmaceutical companies. (Synthroid is the third leading drug sold in the U.S.)

Whether it

is superior is open to serious question, however.

Armour Thyroid and other natural thyroid preparations contain natural thyroid

hormone.

Although these preparations have been criticized by some for being " impure " or

" inconsistent " from dose to dose, it should be noted that Armour Thyroid and

most natural

thyroid preparations are made to standards approved by the United States

Pharmacopeia

(USP), which helps assure that its potency is accurately stated on the label.

They contain T4, T3, T2, and T1 and most closely resemble natural human thyroid

hormone. At the proper dose, natural thyroid hormone works quite well and are

preferred

by nearly all " natural " or " alternative " physicians.

And you will need to see a physician to get it.

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, celiac

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Dear Carol

Thanks for being so detailed. There is significant evidence demonstrating the

superiority of the natural thyroid preparation, in the book, " HYPOTHYROIDISM

TYPE 2: THE EPIDEMIC, by Mark Starr, M.D. The pharmaceutical companies can't

make a big profit off of the natural thyroid preparations, so most conventional

M.D.s don't know about or promote them.

carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Marilyn

>

> Your condition may be more complicated, but the book explains neurologcal,

vascular,

autoimmune conditions and others. You are on a synthetic medication that

commonly

does not address all of the symptomatology of hypothyroidism. Get the book; it

will help

you.

>

>

There is a more natural thyroid extract from pigs. Another major controversy in

the

treatment of hypothyroidism concerns the use of natural glandular concentrates

or

extracts containing thyroid hormone (e.g., Armour Desiccated Thyroid Hormone,

Nathroid,

Westhroid, and other brands derived from the thyroid gland of the pig) vs.

synthetic

(laboratory-made) thyroid (e.g., Synthroid, Levothroid, levothyroxin, etc.). Not

surprisingly,

most conventional physicians prefer the synthetic product, which is widely

promoted by

pharmaceutical companies. (Synthroid is the third leading drug sold in the U.S.)

Whether it

is superior is open to serious question, however.

Armour Thyroid and other natural thyroid preparations contain natural thyroid

hormone.

Although these preparations have been criticized by some for being " impure " or

" inconsistent " from dose to dose, it should be noted that Armour Thyroid and

most natural

thyroid preparations are made to standards approved by the United States

Pharmacopeia

(USP), which helps assure that its potency is accurately stated on the label.

They contain T4, T3, T2, and T1 and most closely resemble natural human thyroid

hormone. At the proper dose, natural thyroid hormone works quite well and are

preferred

by nearly all " natural " or " alternative " physicians.

And you will need to see a physician to get it.

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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>

> Dear Carol

>

> Thanks for being so detailed. There is significant evidence demonstrating the

superiority of the natural thyroid preparation, in the book, " HYPOTHYROIDISM

TYPE 2: THE

EPIDEMIC, by Mark Starr, M.D. The pharmaceutical companies can't make a big

profit off

of the natural thyroid preparations, so most conventional M.D.s don't know about

or

promote them.

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Unfortunately many conventional M.D.s don't know about or promote SCD but do

become

interested when patients explain what is helping them recover.

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, celiac

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