Re: Thoughts

May 15, 1999

wrote:

>

> You know for most of my life I have been around " DIET TALK " ...My

> mother and grandmother have always been after that elusive few pounds

> that just never seem to go away. I hear it at work, " I am on the

> Adkins " , " I am on the Protein Power plan " , etc, etc.

> Even after my surgery, at breakfast, the topic of food was priority.

> Memories of my grandma, after breakfast preparing for lunch, pre

> lunch snacks, pre dinner snacks...dinner,,,more snacks...

>

> Now I have the BAND...

>

> Food is still there, and I can even eat it. Only in very small,

> mushed up amounts. It is not the same!!!!! The many years of FOOD

> TALK have worked there way into my dreams deeply into my

> subconscious. It is like I have had a very secure blanket removed,

> and the part of me being protected is pissed off. It wants that

> blanket back really bad. The food, for all the damage it has done to

> me, also protected me. If I got a rejection, it was because I was

> fat, had nothing to do with if I deserved it or not. People just

> don't let fat people into the better areas. I would be rejected, and

> then crawl away and eat. The blanket would secure itself neatly

> around me and I was safe again. Now that is gone. I am having to deal

> with my troubles in a different way. Perhaps if smoking were not so

> damn expensive I would try that.

>

> I have watched while people try and explain how the band works. For

> me, it simply makes me sick when I eat to much or the wrong thing.

> yes, I could explain the tactile response of my finger tips and the

> motor functions going erratic when crossed with habits formed over the

> years...But be serious...You lose weight because eating the large

> amounts of food is not like it was before the band.

>

> Dr. Fox said that the REASON the stomach surgery he does works so

> fast, is he CRIPPLES your stomach. While your body is repairing

> itself, you lose you appetite. He simply takes advantage of that

> process. With the band, when your body adjusts, you add or remove

> fluid ---DEPENDING ON YOU...and your stomach responds by loss of

> appetite, or pain when eating to much.

>

> Robins, a guy with no degree but more smarts than most, puts

> it this way. We do what we do to avoid pain and cause pleasure. In

> that order. If it hurts, we tend not to do it. If it feels good we

> tend to do it. But side by side, the pain usually wins.

>

> I will get off my box now.

>

> PS

> I am unable to drink diet Coke!!!! I really loved diet Coke.

> REALLY!!!

> Dr. Rambaut said he was addicted to the stuff, and on the side he said

> he just knew there was something in it. But with the band the bubbles

> hurt. I have found the same. Now I am becoming a watered down juice

> guy, and bottled water expert....

>

Dear ,

Lots of folks are/were addicted to diet sodas (I am a PepsiMax gal

myself) and they still drink them just let them go a bit flat.

On the other hand, I can still drink it, maybe that is more proof as to

why my band is not working. I now have 6.5 ml in, another .5 ml last

Friday and I managed to gain 2 kilos this week. Very depressing.

June 13, 2005

That is normal Tina. You probably already lost about

19-20 pounds or so...is that right? Well, you are

going through something they called the hybernation

syndrome. It will come off. It does in spurts. Lose

5-10 pounds....nothing for 2 or 3 weeks then some

weight loss.

Its too bad no one told me that the loss would be like

normal people lose. Also, the smaller you are, the

slower the weight is going to come off. Although the

scale may not be moving, inches are. Clothes will fit

loser so don't get discouraged. It happens to all of

us.

Be encouraged.

Pam Marsh

170-(40 more to get to my goal-130)

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> has only moved 2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> anything, I've been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> weighing myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> else experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> thing) at least the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just

> fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

__________________________________________________

June 13, 2005

That is normal Tina. You probably already lost about

19-20 pounds or so...is that right? Well, you are

going through something they called the hybernation

syndrome. It will come off. It does in spurts. Lose

5-10 pounds....nothing for 2 or 3 weeks then some

weight loss.

Its too bad no one told me that the loss would be like

normal people lose. Also, the smaller you are, the

slower the weight is going to come off. Although the

scale may not be moving, inches are. Clothes will fit

loser so don't get discouraged. It happens to all of

us.

Be encouraged.

Pam Marsh

170-(40 more to get to my goal-130)

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> has only moved 2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> anything, I've been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> weighing myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> else experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> thing) at least the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just

> fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

__________________________________________________

June 13, 2005

That is normal Tina. You probably already lost about

19-20 pounds or so...is that right? Well, you are

going through something they called the hybernation

syndrome. It will come off. It does in spurts. Lose

5-10 pounds....nothing for 2 or 3 weeks then some

weight loss.

Its too bad no one told me that the loss would be like

normal people lose. Also, the smaller you are, the

slower the weight is going to come off. Although the

scale may not be moving, inches are. Clothes will fit

loser so don't get discouraged. It happens to all of

us.

Be encouraged.

Pam Marsh

170-(40 more to get to my goal-130)

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> has only moved 2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> anything, I've been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> weighing myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> else experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> thing) at least the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just

> fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

__________________________________________________

June 13, 2005

Yep, I've lost 19.5 pounds so far. I don't think I recall anything

about hibernation syndrome. I mean, I've heard the word, but didn't

really know what that meant.

I'll try and relax. Maybe I should weigh myself less than once a

week because it really ticked me off!!

Congrulations!!! 30 more to go...you can do it!!!!!

Tina

>

> > I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> > of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> > when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> > has only moved 2

> > pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> > anything, I've been

> > walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> > Zoo yesterday

> > chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> > taking my

> > vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> > weighing myself

> > once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> > scale and start

> > weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> > else experience

> > this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> > thing) at least the

> > first couple of months, that the weight would just

> > fall off.

> >

> > Feeling depressed,

> > Tina

> >

> > Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> > Lap RNY 05/24/05

> > Orientation: 330

> > Surgery: 294

> > Current: 274.5

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 13, 2005

Yep, I've lost 19.5 pounds so far. I don't think I recall anything

about hibernation syndrome. I mean, I've heard the word, but didn't

really know what that meant.

I'll try and relax. Maybe I should weigh myself less than once a

week because it really ticked me off!!

Congrulations!!! 30 more to go...you can do it!!!!!

Tina

>

> > I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> > of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> > when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> > has only moved 2

> > pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> > anything, I've been

> > walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> > Zoo yesterday

> > chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> > taking my

> > vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> > weighing myself

> > once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> > scale and start

> > weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> > else experience

> > this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> > thing) at least the

> > first couple of months, that the weight would just

> > fall off.

> >

> > Feeling depressed,

> > Tina

> >

> > Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> > Lap RNY 05/24/05

> > Orientation: 330

> > Surgery: 294

> > Current: 274.5

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 13, 2005

Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in three weeks! That's something you never would have been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean, sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20 boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore! Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a week forever.

If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you should remember that the body adjusts and modulates all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just shifts.

So you may find that the next time you lose weight, you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big jump. It's normal to do that.

Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your body. That's REALLY something.

Please remind me of all of this when I experience my first slow down, will ya?

Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs. which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will continue for very long.

SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were! Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!

RobynnTina wrote:

I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY disappointed) when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved 2 pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've been walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing myself once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else experience this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least the first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off. Feeling depressed, TinaDr. Baggs/RichmondLap RNY 05/24/05Orientation: 330Surgery: 294Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in three weeks! That's something you never would have been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean, sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20 boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore! Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a week forever.

If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you should remember that the body adjusts and modulates all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just shifts.

So you may find that the next time you lose weight, you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big jump. It's normal to do that.

Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your body. That's REALLY something.

Please remind me of all of this when I experience my first slow down, will ya?

Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs. which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will continue for very long.

SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were! Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!

RobynnTina wrote:

I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY disappointed) when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved 2 pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've been walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing myself once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else experience this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least the first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off. Feeling depressed, TinaDr. Baggs/RichmondLap RNY 05/24/05Orientation: 330Surgery: 294Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in three weeks! That's something you never would have been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean, sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20 boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore! Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a week forever.

If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you should remember that the body adjusts and modulates all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just shifts.

So you may find that the next time you lose weight, you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big jump. It's normal to do that.

Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your body. That's REALLY something.

Please remind me of all of this when I experience my first slow down, will ya?

Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs. which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will continue for very long.

SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were! Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!

RobynnTina wrote:

I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY disappointed) when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved 2 pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've been walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing myself once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else experience this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least the first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off. Feeling depressed, TinaDr. Baggs/RichmondLap RNY 05/24/05Orientation: 330Surgery: 294Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

170 PAM??!?!?!?!? Wow!!!! You are getting close, my friend!!! Big fat kiss on your skinny little face!

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

That is normal Tina. You probably already lost about19-20 pounds or so...is that right? Well, you aregoing through something they called the hybernationsyndrome. It will come off. It does in spurts. Lose5-10 pounds....nothing for 2 or 3 weeks then someweight loss.Its too bad no one told me that the loss would be likenormal people lose. Also, the smaller you are, theslower the weight is going to come off. Although thescale may not be moving, inches are. Clothes will fitloser so don't get discouraged. It happens to all ofus.Be encouraged.Pam Marsh170-(40 more to get to my goal-130)--- Tina wrote:> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind> of...HORRIBLY disappointed) > when I got on the scale this

morning and the scale> has only moved 2 > pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating> anything, I've been > walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF> Zoo yesterday > chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,> taking my > vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only> weighing myself > once a week (because I become obsessed with the> scale and start > weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone> else experience > this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad> thing) at least the > first couple of months, that the weight would just> fall off. > > Feeling depressed, > Tina> > Dr. Baggs/Richmond> Lap RNY 05/24/05> Orientation: 330> Surgery: 294> Current: 274.5> > > __________________________________________________Do You

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June 13, 2005

170 PAM??!?!?!?!? Wow!!!! You are getting close, my friend!!! Big fat kiss on your skinny little face!

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

That is normal Tina. You probably already lost about19-20 pounds or so...is that right? Well, you aregoing through something they called the hybernationsyndrome. It will come off. It does in spurts. Lose5-10 pounds....nothing for 2 or 3 weeks then someweight loss.Its too bad no one told me that the loss would be likenormal people lose. Also, the smaller you are, theslower the weight is going to come off. Although thescale may not be moving, inches are. Clothes will fitloser so don't get discouraged. It happens to all ofus.Be encouraged.Pam Marsh170-(40 more to get to my goal-130)--- Tina wrote:> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind> of...HORRIBLY disappointed) > when I got on the scale this

morning and the scale> has only moved 2 > pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating> anything, I've been > walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF> Zoo yesterday > chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,> taking my > vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only> weighing myself > once a week (because I become obsessed with the> scale and start > weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone> else experience > this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad> thing) at least the > first couple of months, that the weight would just> fall off. > > Feeling depressed, > Tina> > Dr. Baggs/Richmond> Lap RNY 05/24/05> Orientation: 330> Surgery: 294> Current: 274.5> > > __________________________________________________Do You

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June 13, 2005

OK Tina Deep Breath here!!!!

You are at the 3 week, oh my god what did you do to me phase. I hit

a plateau at 3-4 weeks post op and thought oh my god Im a failure,

even wls isnt working for me. But it really is only your body

finally realizing you did something to it and it is thinking its

starving!! Stick with what you are doing: water, protein, exercise

and it will get moving again...big time.

As for weighing Im the all time record keeper on obsessive weighing

in....at least 4 times a day. Im now really working on only once a

day. Im trying Im trying.

Huggles

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY

disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved

2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've

been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing

myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else

experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least

the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

OK Tina Deep Breath here!!!!

You are at the 3 week, oh my god what did you do to me phase. I hit

a plateau at 3-4 weeks post op and thought oh my god Im a failure,

even wls isnt working for me. But it really is only your body

finally realizing you did something to it and it is thinking its

starving!! Stick with what you are doing: water, protein, exercise

and it will get moving again...big time.

As for weighing Im the all time record keeper on obsessive weighing

in....at least 4 times a day. Im now really working on only once a

day. Im trying Im trying.

Huggles

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY

disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved

2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've

been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing

myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else

experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least

the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

Robynn, first and foremost, how are you feeling. From

reading, it sounds like you are doing just great. I

am so happy for you.

Doesn't Tina sound just like me. I remember you

telling me " hey but you want to lose slower so your

body can keep up and you won't have so much saggy

skin " . I am glad my weight loss is coming off as it

is because I am averaging about 13 pounds a month. I

may be stuck at a weight for two weeks then a big jump

for the next two weeks and then stop for two weeks.

The cycle just keeps on but I don't care because I am

still losing weight as well as inches and I am in my

regular 12s (8-10 is my goal for size) and I have 40

more pounds to lose to get to my goal weight of 130

and I am not rusing because my one year anniversary is

Feb 8, 2006 (still a long way to go).

I sort of wish the surgeons will tell the preops that

the weight loss for some will be slower than others

because I know I went into this thinking that it would

just melt off. It has but in some sense, IT HAS NOT

and I am alright with that now.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in

> three weeks! That's something you never would have

> been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean,

> sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might

> lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water

> weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think

> of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of

> those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20

> boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore!

> Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a week

> forever.

>

> If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you

> should remember that the body adjusts and modulates

> all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently

> lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second

> week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs

> the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you

> know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just

> shifts.

>

> So you may find that the next time you lose weight,

> you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly

> for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big

> jump. It's normal to do that.

>

> Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two

> less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something

> to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your

> body. That's REALLY something.

>

> Please remind me of all of this when I experience my

> first slow down, will ya?

>

> Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five

> of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs.

> which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How

> absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery

> for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost

> six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will

> continue for very long.

>

> SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were!

> Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's

> AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY

> boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY

> BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!

>

> Robynn

>

> Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> has only moved 2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> anything, I've been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> weighing myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> else experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> thing) at least the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just

> fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

> ---------------------------------

>

June 13, 2005

Robynn, first and foremost, how are you feeling. From

reading, it sounds like you are doing just great. I

am so happy for you.

Doesn't Tina sound just like me. I remember you

telling me " hey but you want to lose slower so your

body can keep up and you won't have so much saggy

skin " . I am glad my weight loss is coming off as it

is because I am averaging about 13 pounds a month. I

may be stuck at a weight for two weeks then a big jump

for the next two weeks and then stop for two weeks.

The cycle just keeps on but I don't care because I am

still losing weight as well as inches and I am in my

regular 12s (8-10 is my goal for size) and I have 40

more pounds to lose to get to my goal weight of 130

and I am not rusing because my one year anniversary is

Feb 8, 2006 (still a long way to go).

I sort of wish the surgeons will tell the preops that

the weight loss for some will be slower than others

because I know I went into this thinking that it would

just melt off. It has but in some sense, IT HAS NOT

and I am alright with that now.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in

> three weeks! That's something you never would have

> been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean,

> sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might

> lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water

> weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think

> of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of

> those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20

> boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore!

> Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a week

> forever.

>

> If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you

> should remember that the body adjusts and modulates

> all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently

> lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second

> week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs

> the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you

> know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just

> shifts.

>

> So you may find that the next time you lose weight,

> you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly

> for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big

> jump. It's normal to do that.

>

> Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two

> less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something

> to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your

> body. That's REALLY something.

>

> Please remind me of all of this when I experience my

> first slow down, will ya?

>

> Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five

> of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs.

> which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How

> absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery

> for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost

> six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will

> continue for very long.

>

> SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were!

> Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's

> AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY

> boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY

> BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!

>

> Robynn

>

> Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind

> of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale

> has only moved 2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating

> anything, I've been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF

> Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,

> taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only

> weighing myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the

> scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone

> else experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad

> thing) at least the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just

> fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

> ---------------------------------

>

June 13, 2005

I'm fine, Pam. Tired, but most of the pain has subsided. (although the tape is starting to be really , really itchy!!!)

Yes, I do remember your frustration. The surgeon told me that pear shaped women tend to lose weight a bit more slowly, for some reason. But, every body is different...every single body has their own rate of loss...and as long as that needle is going down, great. (I say this now, but I'm eager to lose enough to look good naked, as I want my sweet Frenchie boy in the biggest way...so I'm hoping it won't take too long....)

Love you,

robynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

Robynn, first and foremost, how are you feeling. Fromreading, it sounds like you are doing just great. Iam so happy for you.Doesn't Tina sound just like me. I remember youtelling me "hey but you want to lose slower so yourbody can keep up and you won't have so much saggyskin". I am glad my weight loss is coming off as itis because I am averaging about 13 pounds a month. Imay be stuck at a weight for two weeks then a big jumpfor the next two weeks and then stop for two weeks. The cycle just keeps on but I don't care because I amstill losing weight as well as inches and I am in myregular 12s (8-10 is my goal for size) and I have 40more pounds to lose to get to my goal weight of 130and I am not rusing because my one year anniversary isFeb 8, 2006 (still a long way to go).I sort

of wish the surgeons will tell the preops thatthe weight loss for some will be slower than othersbecause I know I went into this thinking that it wouldjust melt off. It has but in some sense, IT HAS NOTand I am alright with that now.Pam Marsh--- Robynn VanPatten wrote:> Honey, get some perspective. You've lost 20 lbs. in> three weeks! That's something you never would have> been able to do before the surgery, right? I mean,> sure, the first few weeks of a crash diet, you might> lose 12 lbs or so...but, you already lost that water> weight in the 10 percent battle pre-surgery. Think> of a box of butter, one pound. Stack up 20 of> those. That's what you have lost. Imagine those 20> boxes on your body. They aren't there anymore! > Don't be afraid that you will only lose 2 lbs a

week> forever.> > If you've ever lost a lot of weight before, you> should remember that the body adjusts and modulates> all of the time. In my weight loss, I'd frequently> lose a lb or two one week, half a lb the second> week...and then eight lbs the third week, four lbs> the fourth week...half a lb the next week...you> know? i mean, no rhyme or reason to it...just> shifts.> > So you may find that the next time you lose weight,> you lose quite a lot. Or maybe you'll lose slowly> for a couple of weeks, and then you'll have a big> jump. It's normal to do that.> > Don't lose heart. You'll get there. You have two> less lbs. of butter on your ass. That's something> to cheer about. 20 less boxes of butter on your> body. That's REALLY something.> > Please remind

me of all of this when I experience my> first slow down, will ya?> > Today, I weighed 229. I started at 235, gained five> of water during the surgery. So, I've lost six lbs.> which is great. And yet, it feels slow. How> absurd is that? It isn't. I've been out of surgery> for only a bit more than four days, and I've lost> six real lbs. But, I seriously doubt that rate will> continue for very long.> > SO, take heart. You are smaller than you were! > Nearly sixty lbs. smaller all together! That's> AMAZING. Think about 60 boxes of butter. SIXTY> boxes of butter are no longer on your body. SIXTY> BOXES OF BUTTER!!!! Good work, my friend!!> > Robynn> > Tina wrote:> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind>

of...HORRIBLY disappointed) > when I got on the scale this morning and the scale> has only moved 2 > pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating> anything, I've been > walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF> Zoo yesterday > chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water,> taking my > vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only> weighing myself > once a week (because I become obsessed with the> scale and start > weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone> else experience > this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad> thing) at least the > first couple of months, that the weight would just> fall off. > > Feeling depressed, > Tina> > Dr. Baggs/Richmond> Lap RNY 05/24/05> Orientation: 330> Surgery: 294> Current: 274.5> > > >

> --------------------------------->

June 13, 2005

Thanks for the perspective. I needed that! 20 boxes of butter not on

my ass is a great way to think of it!!

Before surgery, I would of been okay with a 2 pound weight loss in

one week but after surgery...it just seems like it should come off

quicker.

I'm done feeling sorry for myself. Maybe I'll take my measurements

and see where I'm at. I know I've already gone down a pant size +

and things up top are fitting much better so I'll be happy! (or at

least I'll try!)

Thanks Robynn!

Tina

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY

disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved

2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've

been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing

myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else

experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least

the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

>

> ---------------------------------

>

June 13, 2005

2 pounds. Do not fret. Think of it as 8 sticks of butter. now

that is NICE!

> I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY

disappointed)

> when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved

2

> pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've

been

> walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday

> chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my

> vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing

myself

> once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start

> weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else

experience

> this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least

the

> first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off.

>

> Feeling depressed,

> Tina

>

> Dr. Baggs/Richmond

> Lap RNY 05/24/05

> Orientation: 330

> Surgery: 294

> Current: 274.5

June 13, 2005

Unfortunately, some of the surgeons don't BELIEVE in plateaus. They

think that if your weight loss stalls for a while, you're doing

something wrong! Right ?

ARGH! Don't get me started!

Pamela A Marsh wrote:

> I sort of wish the surgeons will tell the preops that the weight loss

> for some will be slower than others because I know I went into this

> thinking that it would just melt off. It has but in some sense, IT

> HAS NOT and I am alright with that now.

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

June 13, 2005

Unfortunately, some of the surgeons don't BELIEVE in plateaus. They

think that if your weight loss stalls for a while, you're doing

something wrong! Right ?

ARGH! Don't get me started!

Pamela A Marsh wrote:

> I sort of wish the surgeons will tell the preops that the weight loss

> for some will be slower than others because I know I went into this

> thinking that it would just melt off. It has but in some sense, IT

> HAS NOT and I am alright with that now.

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

June 13, 2005

Unfortunately, some of the surgeons don't BELIEVE in plateaus. They

think that if your weight loss stalls for a while, you're doing

something wrong! Right ?

ARGH! Don't get me started!

Pamela A Marsh wrote:

> I sort of wish the surgeons will tell the preops that the weight loss

> for some will be slower than others because I know I went into this

> thinking that it would just melt off. It has but in some sense, IT

> HAS NOT and I am alright with that now.

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

June 13, 2005

Actually Tina, I am not surprised. I kind of expected it when you told me

that you were feeling tired the other day. Your body is adjusting, that's

all. When I was about five or six weeks out, I hit a plateau for sixteen

days, and I wasn't doing anything different either. This too shall pass

and you will start losingn at the rate you expect again. LaWanda At 08:08

AM 6/13/05, you wrote:

>I was kind of disappointed (okay, not kind of...HORRIBLY disappointed)

>when I got on the scale this morning and the scale has only moved 2

>pounds in the last week. I mean, I'm not eating anything, I've been

>walking quite a bit (spent 5 hours walking at the SF Zoo yesterday

>chasing 4 kids around), have been drinking my water, taking my

>vitamins and the scale only moves 2 pounds! I'm only weighing myself

>once a week (because I become obsessed with the scale and start

>weighing myself multiple times in a day). Did anyone else experience

>this? I'm only 3 weeks out. I just expected (bad thing) at least the

>first couple of months, that the weight would just fall off.

>

>Feeling depressed,

>Tina

>

>Dr. Baggs/Richmond

>Lap RNY 05/24/05

>Orientation: 330

>Surgery: 294

>Current: 274.5

>

June 13, 2005