Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 hi sonia well i will double check with my husband re addiction but as far as i remember the gradual withdrawal process is coz a sudden withdrawal would be likely to trigger reoccurance of the depression..and yes ...it is VITAL to withdraw very very slowly over several months...going down half a tablet at a time. of course there is a chemical reaction in the brain to introducing or withdrawing from anti dep.... that is why they work.. but that is different to the shaking/collapsing/vomiting/weakness etc that physical addiction withdrawal symptoms causes and that Dorit mentioned on coming off amphetamines. the phrase 'all in the mind' suggests that these symptoms are not real....of course they are real...just coz something is caused by the mind it doesn't mean that the pain etc felt is any less real than that felt when u break a leg! depression can be a time of breakthrough to new growth and strength...and should not be seen as a sign of weakness...but more a sign that someone is in touch with their feelings and/or has a chemical imbalance in the brain which needs treatment (just as diabetics need treatment for their chemical imbalance). as u can see this is a bit of an emotive subject for me so sorry if i sound as if i am lecturing or anything...i have just had so much **** from my parents on the lines of 'all in the mind' ...'pull yourself together'... 'snap out of it' when i have had periods of severe depression. I think that anyone who manages to 'hang on in there' when faced with a period of depression (whatever it is caused by) is truely strong and brave. helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 Hi Helen...I have an appointment on Monday night to talk to my Dr about this.... Helen on wrote: > > > Hi all > just one more word about anti depressants like the ones that have > been mentioned in here, e.g. prozac.... they are not physiologically > addictive (ie won't cause purely physical withdrawal symptoms like > amphetamines will) but of course there is a psychological dependance > which is why when u come off them it should be done very gradually > .half a tablet less over a period of several weeks in little steps. > > the reason why i suggested prozac to was not particularly coz > i thought she was depressed (although i would be if i was in her > shoes) but because there has been quite a lot of research to show > that many ppl with overeating problems find prozac actually helps > them to control compulsive eating and actually loose weight. maybe > just another avenue to explore. > > Helen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? > http://www.ONElist.com > Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 , That is great!! WTG on the 2 pounds, and I hope that the meds work for you. I know how that can go!! Hugs Penny---Ohio 173/157/130 Goal for Oct 31st-----155 List Moderator http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 In a message dated 10/15/99 10:53:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raggedy@... writes: << I am pretty excited about changing meds. >> That is great news !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 I was lucky because I defused that bomb before it went off and for that my family are truly grateful as I have put them through hell. Regards At 09:21 AM 9/04/1999 +0800, you wrote: > > >Hi > >I was on antidepressants for 4 years ( I lost a child,,little boy born prem. >and sadly only lived for an hour )this sent me over the edge,,I tried many >times to quite the anti d's but fell into that big black whole again. >It funny though when I had the lapband surgery I went of them ( again ) as I >thought one less drug in my system. I haven't taken one since 8th Feb,,my >husband keeps telling me to go back on them >( as he knows how bad it can get )but I really want to give them up,,,since the >OP I haven't been depressed ( abit pissed of ) but not depressed ( other wise I >would have gone straight back on them because when I am depressed every one >suffers and that's no fair )But I have this feeling it wont last,,hopefully if >I can reduce my weight this will help,,,who knows it's a bit like " a waiting >game " ,,,will the bomb go of,,,or not??????????? > >Dave & Neale wrote: > >> >> >> I have been on antidepressants since my second baby who is nearly six. >> Everytime I try to come off them, well I get depressed and sometimes >> suicidal. I stopped taking them last year for about six months and by the >> end of that time I was feeling quite strange and finally suicidal. After >> about three weeks back on zoloft 50mg a day I was fine. Zoloft is a >> relative of prozac as prozac was not compatible with me. >> >> Only you know yourself well enough to know if you are not feeling 100%. I >> have come to terms with the fact that my depression is long term. Having >> said that, I function " normally " and have " normal " feelings and emotions >> now and just don't get suicidal anymore. I have been seeing a psych for >> three years and finally feel as though I am at the point where I don't need >> to see her anymore. Dad is worried I will become addicted to >> anti-depressants but as I point out to him, he is not addicted to his blood >> pressure tablets, they just perform a function in his body. >> >> Regards >> >> At 12:16 PM 8/04/1999 PDT, you wrote: >> > >> > >> >Hi >> >I have been desparately thinking about anything I could suggest to >> >help you coz I really feel for you. I can well understand your >> >desparation...I felt the same pre-op and i know that you don't >> >need/want lectures. However, appetite suppressents that act to >> >speed up metabolism and stop u eating(amphetamines) are just sooooo >> >addictive and have so many bad side effects (including much increased >> >danger of heart probs as they work by speeding up many body processes >> >including heart rate). After all you have been through it is surely >> >not worth risking your life for..and anyway all research has shown >> >that as soon as the amphetamines are stopped the weight is quickly >> >regained! In UK it is now illegal for any doctor to prescribe >> >amphetamines. >> > >> >Anti-depressants are totally different.... Have you thought about >> >asking your doctor for the anti-depressant 'Prozac'?? This is a non- >> >addictive tablet that has been shown to help many people with binge- >> >eating problems. It might also help u to feel less down after all >> >your trauma. My husband is a psychotherapist that works with doctors >> >who have had success with this if it is properly prescribed (must be >> >60 mg per day). >> >If you want any more info on this i would be happy to help in any way >> >i can >> >take care of yourself >> >Helen >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? >> >http://www.ONElist.com >> >Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. >> http://www.ONElist.com >> ONElist: The leading provider of free e-mail list services! > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Have you visited the new ONElist home page lately? >http://www.ONElist.com >ONElist: The Leading e-mail list and community service on the Internet! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Are you sure they are not physiologically addictive. I was told to come off them gradually. Cutting back over several months. Psychological dependence suggests that it is all in our head rather than our bodies. Regards At 02:38 PM 9/04/1999 PDT, you wrote: > > >Hi all >just one more word about anti depressants like the ones that have >been mentioned in here, e.g. prozac.... they are not physiologically >addictive (ie won't cause purely physical withdrawal symptoms like >amphetamines will) but of course there is a psychological dependance >which is why when u come off them it should be done very gradually >.half a tablet less over a period of several weeks in little steps. > >the reason why i suggested prozac to was not particularly coz >i thought she was depressed (although i would be if i was in her >shoes) but because there has been quite a lot of research to show >that many ppl with overeating problems find prozac actually helps >them to control compulsive eating and actually loose weight. maybe >just another avenue to explore. > >Helen > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? >http://www.ONElist.com >Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Hey, you are preaching to the converted here. I have had two bouts of postnatal depression. One hospitalisation for suicidal feelings and have been on antidepressants for five years and in therapy for three. I finally feel that my life has turned around and I am back to my old self again. But I have worked bloody hard for this. Seeing a psych for three years is one hell of a commitment something my family cannot see. I wrote down my life history and all my feelings over those three years and have enough to publish a book. If I had a car accident and broke my leg, they would all gather round and help, but because this is sometime I could have snapped out of anytime I wanted and stopped acting like a spoilt brat, I cannot even get my family to babysit while I visit my psych. I could go on and on about the lack of support here. But you know what I mean. There will never be public acceptance or even tolerance about mental illness because the general population at large are terrified that it just may be real after all and that is why we are shunned. Witches were burned at the stake for less than what we are going through. OK off my pulpit (for the time being) Regards Does being married to a therapist mean you get free quality therapy. I married an electrician and I pay someone else to change my light globes for me. At 06:06 PM 9/04/1999 PDT, you wrote: > > >hi sonia >well i will double check with my husband re addiction but as far as i >remember the gradual withdrawal process is coz a sudden withdrawal >would be likely to trigger reoccurance of the depression..and yes >..it is VITAL to withdraw very very slowly over several >months...going down half a tablet at a time. > > of course there is a chemical reaction in the brain to introducing >or withdrawing from anti dep.... that is why they work.. but that is >different to the shaking/collapsing/vomiting/weakness etc that >physical addiction withdrawal symptoms causes and that Dorit >mentioned on coming off amphetamines. > >the phrase 'all in the mind' suggests that these symptoms are not >real....of course they are real...just coz something is caused by the >mind it doesn't mean that the pain etc felt is any less real than >that felt when u break a leg! > >depression can be a time of breakthrough to new growth and >strength...and should not be seen as a sign of weakness...but more a >sign that someone is in touch with their feelings and/or has a >chemical imbalance in the brain which needs treatment (just as >diabetics need treatment for their chemical imbalance). > >as u can see this is a bit of an emotive subject for me so sorry if i >sound as if i am lecturing or anything...i have just had so much **** >from my parents on the lines of 'all in the mind' ...'pull yourself >together'... 'snap out of it' when i have had periods of severe >depression. I think that anyone who manages to 'hang on in there' >when faced with a period of depression (whatever it is caused by) is >truely strong and brave. > >helen > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? >http://www.ONElist.com >Sign up for a new e-mail list today! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Thats great - its not an easy step to take - you're awfully brave. Good Luck. Regards At 01:33 PM 10/04/1999 +0800, you wrote: > > >Hi Helen...I have an appointment on Monday night to talk to my Dr about >this.... > >Helen on wrote: > >> >> >> Hi all >> just one more word about anti depressants like the ones that have >> been mentioned in here, e.g. prozac.... they are not physiologically >> addictive (ie won't cause purely physical withdrawal symptoms like >> amphetamines will) but of course there is a psychological dependance >> which is why when u come off them it should be done very gradually >> .half a tablet less over a period of several weeks in little steps. >> >> the reason why i suggested prozac to was not particularly coz >> i thought she was depressed (although i would be if i was in her >> shoes) but because there has been quite a lot of research to show >> that many ppl with overeating problems find prozac actually helps >> them to control compulsive eating and actually loose weight. maybe >> just another avenue to explore. >> >> Helen >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Did you know that ONElist hosts some of the largest lists on the Internet? >> http://www.ONElist.com >> Our scaleable system is the most reliable free e-mail service on the Internet! > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? >http://www.ONElist.com >Come join one of the 115,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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