Re: SBD & Boca Burgers (orchid)

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I am not the one who said anything about Atkins. Don't recall who it

was, but it wasn't me.

What I said was that you are misreading/misapplying the Good Carb

book and that you cannot go by that alone. Here is what I meant.

Certain things in the Good Carb book are very specific, such

as " Cheerios. " Other things are nonspecific, Such as " veggie

burgers. " Not all veggie burgers are the same.

When something is nonspecific, you need to check ingredients. Dr. A.

is very, very, very clear that you need to check ingredients on ALL

processed foods to find out if they are really SBD compliant, and

that includes veggie burgers. His nutritionist at the SBD site is

also very, very clear on this.

Some veggie burgers are compliant, as they have no foods from

the " foods to avoid " list. Some Boca burgers are compliant because of

this. But, the specific burgers we are discussing are the " spicy

chicken " ones. They do NOT have the SBD seal of approval on them.

They are NOT specifically mentioned in the Good Carb book. And if you

read the list of ingredients which I posted, you can see they are NOT

compliant. later said that they were not compliant and had

no SBD seal.

The whole point of checking the Good Carb book and then checking to

see if nonspecific items have compliant ingredients in them is

because that's what Dr. A. said to do. We have to use our heads by

going to the " allowed foods list " and see if the ingredients on

individual non-specific foods are okay. We can't just say that

all " veggie burgers " must be okay when there are so many varying

veggie burgers.

The current " guides " to go by are the guides that SBD provides on the

site--they are the updated " foods to enjoy " lists and " foods to

avoid " lists for each phase. The reason you go by those is that they

are very specific.

So, if you want to use the Good Carb book, we have to do it the way

SBD says to do it, and that is to check non-specific processed foods

to see if the ingredients are on the " allowed foods " lists for each

phase.

For specific foods, it is somewhat different. If it says " Cheerios "

are limited, then " Cheerios " are limited. But, even then, " Honey Nut

Cheerios " would not be allowed, as they have ingredients that are not

allowed at all.

ann

> Ann- I know that they have changed a lot of things about Dr.

Atkins diet since he died. In the past, I have done Dr. Atkins diet

& am totally familiar with what he wrote & how they changed those

things after he died (& I also agree with you that it is a shame & I

have often thought that Dr. Atkins would not be at all pleased to

hear what they have done to his diet after he died). Dr. A. of the

SBD diet though, has not died & it is HE who endorses these

products. How can the SBD Good Fats & Good Carbs Guide (that was

written by Dr. A.) & that has been revised to reflect other changes

to his original diet be wrong when there have been changes to the

original list that Dr. A. does point out with each new revision to

his Guide? The Guide was written to be a help & more complete list

that the books devoted to the list of foods to eat & avoid, is, & it

was written by Dr. A. (so how could the books be right & the Guide is

wrong)? The real truth is that the foods to eat & foods to avoid

lists in the books have later been changed & if anything is wrong it

is those & not the revised up to date & current Guide.

>

> Orchid