Re: Where is the equity????

[Guest guest]

> Incidently in the past 8 years the State of California has invested

over $8,000,000 building a prison hospital at Corcoran State Prison.

Nurses make over $100,000 a year. It is staffed with doctors, and RN's.

>

> Where is the equity?

>

> PS Manson, Surhan Surhan, Carona, and reprsentatives of

all major gangs that have ever existed in California are residents.

Question: Isn't Corcoran strictly a men's facility?

As for that compensation...I don't know how much they earn...but I do

know it must certainly be one of the most dangerous environments a

medical professional could face and/or work in. Why? Because of the

high prison load cases of HIV/AIDS and hepatitis C -- combined with

the violent instability/propensity of so many prisoners who have been

placed there. Add to that, from what I read online, Corcoran is a

" dumping ground " for all HIV/AIDS patients in the state and is also

rated the #1 most violent prison in the entire United States. You

couldn't pay me enough to work in that sort of environment.

But, the United States Supreme Court has confirmed that the Americans

with Disabilities Act protects everyone. Including prisoners.

" ...no qualified individual with a disability shall, by reason of such

disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the

benefits of the services, programs, or activities of a public entity,

or be subjected to discrimination by any such entity... "

Beyond all of this, my original post was about women. Not men.

ly, I could care less about the men who end up in prison --

particularly the violent offenders and gang members.

However, women are, by and large, NOT the violent offenders that men

are in this nation. sure, some are. ~14% of imprisoned violent

offenders are indeed women. But, the vast majority of imprisoned

women are property or drug felons.

From my view, NO woman deserves to be castrated without her permission

or outside the presence of cancer and NO woman should undergo a

surgical treatment she doesn't need or desire. Being behind bars for

a year or so for stealing or selling/using drugs is hardly reason for

society to justify placing an imprisoned woman under immediate risks

of a surgery she doesn't want, endangering her long-term health, or

removing her right to bear children altogether. Is it?

And, even if one considers or thinks it IS social justice for

*someone* to decide those women don't need to be adding to the

population of the planet...how far away is that sort of thinking from

the very same *social justice* that gyns thought they were acting out

upon women on Native reservations in this nation back in the

1960-1970's?????? A hysterectomy with every birth to keep the

population down...the government subsidies down...the poverty level

down, etc. With little to NO regard for Native culture, women's

desires, or even women's health -- mental and/or physical....

I don't know. As I wrote previously, this is an issue that has long

been on my periphery, but for which I haven't really researched

in-depth just yet. I honestly don't feel I know enough about all the

details of what is going on to truly be making commentary on this at

all. Other than, well, the simple fact that I believe ALL women

deserve more than what they're currently getting from the

gynecological community in this nation.

Carla Dionne

[Guest guest]

Carla pointed out in writing about medical care for women in prison:

And, even if one considers or thinks it IS social justice for

*someone* to decide those women don't need to be adding to the

population of the planet...how far away is that sort of thinking from

the very same *social justice* that gyns thought they were acting out

upon women on Native reservations in this nation back in the

1960-1970's?????? A hysterectomy with every birth to keep the

population down...the government subsidies down...the poverty level

down, etc. With little to NO regard for Native culture, women's

desires, or even women's health -- mental and/or physical....

Very important point. To add to it:

Same practice has gone on in Puerto Rico, which has a

disproportionately high level of hysterectomized surgically and

sterilized women (compared to the " average " level in the US).

And need it be said that the " logic " of depriving " undesirables "

(Jews, gypsies, political opponents, petty criminals, gay people,

disabled people, etc. etc.) of the ability to reproduce was also

employed by the Nazis in Germany?

Sunny