question on how to prevent fibroids

[Guest guest]

I had a myo on April 22nd and am seeing an acupuncturist who is doing

treatments, trying to limit scar tissue formation, and working with herbs to

balance my hormones. You could see a naturopathic doctor who would also do this

- probably in more detail (herbs, supplements, etc.).

There are a number of good books out there also that have dietary and lifestyle

suggestions for limiting/preventing fibroid growth. " Women's Bodies, Women's

Wisdom " by Christianne Northrup MD & " Healing Fibroids: A Doctor's Guide to a

Natural Cure " by by Allan, Md Warshowsky. I like both of these books.

I'm with you on preventing re-growth - I don't want them back ever!

Pi567@... wrote:

What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book that lists foods

to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet, and have been

limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we can do to

prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them growing back.

And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really appreciate it if

you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

Thanks

Nina

[Guest guest]

If fibroids were easily preventable with diet, herbs, exercise,

accupuncture, visualization therapy, biofeedback, massage therapy,

stress management therapy, yoga, belly dancing,etc., then there

probably wouldn't be much need for this group.

> What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book that

lists foods

> to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet, and

have been

> limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we

can do to

> prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

>

> Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them

growing back.

> And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really

appreciate it if

> you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

>

> Thanks

> Nina

[Guest guest]

If fibroids were easily preventable with diet, herbs, exercise,

accupuncture, visualization therapy, biofeedback, massage therapy,

stress management therapy, yoga, belly dancing,etc., then there

probably wouldn't be much need for this group.

> What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book that

lists foods

> to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet, and

have been

> limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we

can do to

> prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

>

> Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them

growing back.

> And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really

appreciate it if

> you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

>

> Thanks

> Nina

[Guest guest]

If fibroids were easily preventable with diet, herbs, exercise,

accupuncture, visualization therapy, biofeedback, massage therapy,

stress management therapy, yoga, belly dancing,etc., then there

probably wouldn't be much need for this group.

> What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book that

lists foods

> to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet, and

have been

> limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we

can do to

> prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

>

> Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them

growing back.

> And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really

appreciate it if

> you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

>

> Thanks

> Nina

[Guest guest]

I don't agree with that statement at all.

I think as women it is important to feel empowered to help heal our own bodies.

I'm not suggesting that Eastern medicine alone can prevent or cure fibroids - I

myself had a myomectomy to remove an 8cm submucosal. But there is medical

research and literature as well as books by many highly regarded Western and

Eastern practitioners on how we can help ourselves. To dismiss these is not

only arrogant, but dis-empowering to any woman taking an active role in her own

healing.

terricecile terricecile@...> wrote:

If fibroids were easily preventable with diet, herbs, exercise,

accupuncture, visualization therapy, biofeedback, massage therapy,

stress management therapy, yoga, belly dancing,etc., then there

probably wouldn't be much need for this group.

> What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book that

lists foods

> to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet, and

have been

> limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we

can do to

> prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

>

> Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them

growing back.

> And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really

appreciate it if

> you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

>

> Thanks

> Nina

[Guest guest]

But that idea makes women feel that having fibroids is somehow their

own fault. That somehow they didn't try hard enough to " heal

themselves " . I agree that it is important to take an active role in

our own health care and learning to eat better, exercise more and

destress can help anyone feel better, but it's important that we

know that nothing that we DID or DIDN'T DO caused these fibroids.

We were born with the genes that gave us the propensity to grow

fibroids. Is it possible that some diets/habits may make fibroids

worse? Probably, but the predisposition has to be there, and I hate

to see women blaming themselves for failing at whatever alternative

treatment that they may try, or wasting time suffering with fibroids

when there may be a reasonably safe medical alternative that can

relieve their suffering.

> > What can we do to prevent fibroids? Is there a site or book

that

> lists foods

> > to avoid (I've already cut coffee and alcohol out of my diet,

and

> have been

> > limiting my meat intake, as well). Are there exercises that we

> can do to

> > prevent them from growing back? Any other supplements?

> >

> > Once I have these fibroids removed, I reeally don't want them

> growing back.

> > And if there are ways to limit their growth, I would really

> appreciate it if

> > you someone could lead me to a book or website etc.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Nina

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> I think as women it is important to feel empowered to help heal our

> own bodies. I'm not suggesting that Eastern medicine alone can > >

> prevent or cure fibroids - I myself had a myomectomy to remove an >

> 8cm submucosal. But there is medical research and literature as > >

> well as books by many highly regarded Western and Eastern > > > > >

> practitioners on how we can help ourselves.

Yes, there is some research on how we can help ourselves to feel

better and be less symptomatic. But, if there is medical research of

ANY kind which is definitive in prevention or cure of fibroids, I am

entirely unaware of it.

> To dismiss these is not only arrogant, but dis-empowering to any > >

> woman taking an active role in her own healing.

Wow. This is an incredibly strong statement to make. Dismissing a

multitude of treatments that didn't work for me didn't dis-empower me

in the least. If anything, it made me road weary (and wary) of the

broad range of quackery that exists " out there " for desperately ill

people. I want to see the science. Proof. Not hypothesis

(typically, never to be tested).

So, fundamentally, I disagree with your statement. Having a lack of

confidence in the broad range of alternative treatments potentially

available to " try " has little to do with empowerment or the healing

process. For me, it is the free and open discussion of all the

treatment options and broad range of experiences, perspectives,

confounding factors, etc., that has empowered me.

That said, at this time I would ask that ALL of us on this group think

a bit more deeply before we empower ourselves with the " Send " button

on our email. Sometimes strong definitive statements with less than

flattering adjectives...can be taken quite personally...it's one thing

to discuss and debate the virtues of treatments...quite another to

venture into the land of " judging " each other publicly....

Rules of the Game

1. Work together to build a better sand castle

2. Talk to your playmates (fairly!)

3. Share your toys

4. Don't throw sand

5. If you say you're gonna bring the pail, bring it!

6. When done, clean up the mess with a friend

Just a thought.

Carla

[Guest guest]

I'm with Carla on this one. There are definitely a lot of books,

articles, seminars, advice, etc. that offer a variety of approaches

outside the boundaries of conventional western medicine. I guess

most of them do no harm, but I'm not sure how much good they do.

My SIL has been a vegetarian, meditating, alternative medicine

devotee her whole adult life, yet she developed huge fibroids at a

younger age than I did. She didn't heal very well after her myo,

either. Me, I'm a coffee drinking, prepared foods and meat eating

stressoholic, and I have new fibroids after my successful UAE four

years ago. I know there is no definitive answer, but I'm beginning

to believe it's genetic and perhaps aggravated by stress. Stress is

an unavoidable part of life, I think. We have to work, and we have

relationships that occasionally cause us flare-ups of stress.

Good luck to everyone, may your chosen approach work.

[Guest guest]

a little irony to share: most " natural/vegetarian " diets have soy as

a prominent component.

There is some degree of evidence that soy impacts hormone production

(increasing it), which may actually increase the likelihood of fibroid

growth.

S

> I'm with Carla on this one. There are definitely a lot of books,

> articles, seminars, advice, etc. that offer a variety of approaches

> outside the boundaries of conventional western medicine. I guess

> most of them do no harm, but I'm not sure how much good they do.

>

> My SIL has been a vegetarian, meditating, alternative medicine

> devotee her whole adult life, yet she developed huge fibroids at a

> younger age than I did. She didn't heal very well after her myo,

> either. Me, I'm a coffee drinking, prepared foods and meat eating

> stressoholic, and I have new fibroids after my successful UAE four

> years ago. I know there is no definitive answer, but I'm beginning

> to believe it's genetic and perhaps aggravated by stress. Stress is

> an unavoidable part of life, I think. We have to work, and we have

> relationships that occasionally cause us flare-ups of stress.

>

> Good luck to everyone, may your chosen approach work.

[Guest guest]

I am getting the feeling that these things grow because we have a

genetic predisposition to them when we come into contact with

stressers....there are the breakdowns of plastics and two thousand new

chemicals we are exposed to yearly, many of these that have the

potential to do genetic and reproductive harm. Last count way upwards of

20,000 chemicals exposed or ingested since the turn of the century. Look

what DDT did.

Recently there were studies done with mice that " proved " vaccines did

not " cause " autism. The studies were flawed. It was found the strain of

mice used did not develop " autism " but when a different strain was used

they did. Somewhat off track musings

gigi

jowortman wrote:

>I'm with Carla on this one. There are definitely a lot of books,

>articles, seminars, advice, etc. that offer a variety of approaches

>outside the boundaries of conventional western medicine. I guess

>most of them do no harm, but I'm not sure how much good they do.

>

>My SIL has been a vegetarian, meditating, alternative medicine

>devotee her whole adult life, yet she developed huge fibroids at a

>younger age than I did. She didn't heal very well after her myo,

>either. Me, I'm a coffee drinking, prepared foods and meat eating

>stressoholic, and I have new fibroids after my successful UAE four

>years ago. I know there is no definitive answer, but I'm beginning

>to believe it's genetic and perhaps aggravated by stress. Stress is

>an unavoidable part of life, I think. We have to work, and we have

>relationships that occasionally cause us flare-ups of stress.

>

>Good luck to everyone, may your chosen approach work.

>

>

>

>

>MEETUP! with other local women who have Uterine Fibroids.

http://uterinefibroids.meetup.com

>

[Guest guest]

Dear :

YOU GO GIRL! Well said - I fully agree!

Best, Edie

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Re: question on how to prevent fibroids

I don't agree with that statement at all.

I think as women it is important to feel empowered to help heal our own bodies.

I'm not suggesting that Eastern medicine alone can prevent or cure fibroids - I

myself had a myomectomy to remove an 8cm submucosal. But there is medical

research and literature as well as books by many highly regarded Western and

Eastern practitioners on how we can help ourselves. To dismiss these is not

only arrogant, but dis-empowering to any woman taking an active role in her own

healing.