Introduction

September 8, 2003

Welcome to the group wish u all the luck in ur TR journy.

PATRICIA GRIDER

HAVE A GOOD DAY

-- Introduction

Hi everyone. I want to thank everyone for letting me join what seems

to be a wonderful and very informative group. My name is . I am

47 and my husband is 51. The age thing doesn't stop us from

wanting a child of our own though. But boy oh boy! Talk about the

clock ticking!!! I have a daughter that is 26 with 2 little girls and

a third on the way. has a daughter that is 26 and a son that

is 22. I had my TL 27 *ouch* years ago. I'm waiting now for the

hospital report so I can set things in motion. Any suggestions,

hints, tips and info that anyone can give me will be greatly

appreciated. I live in northern West Virginia and hope to find a TR

doc near here for convenience, but I'd travel the world over if need

be to be able to have another child. Many blessings to all of you.

Thanks again.

September 8, 2003

- I used Dr L and he is wonderful..... I had my Reversal in March and

I had some ovulation problems but Hope to be PG soon. Welcome to the group

and I am glad you do not let age stop you Its just a number.......

Cindy

Introduction

> Hi everyone. I want to thank everyone for letting me join what seems

> to be a wonderful and very informative group. My name is . I am

> 47 and my husband is 51. The age thing doesn't stop us from

> wanting a child of our own though. But boy oh boy! Talk about the

> clock ticking!!! I have a daughter that is 26 with 2 little girls and

> a third on the way. has a daughter that is 26 and a son that

> is 22. I had my TL 27 *ouch* years ago. I'm waiting now for the

> hospital report so I can set things in motion. Any suggestions,

> hints, tips and info that anyone can give me will be greatly

> appreciated. I live in northern West Virginia and hope to find a TR

> doc near here for convenience, but I'd travel the world over if need

> be to be able to have another child. Many blessings to all of you.

> Thanks again.

>

September 8, 2003

welcome to the group.im lori and im from wva just outside of charleston.what

part are you from?i had my reversal in feb of this yr.got preg.in april but

it died at 7 weeks into the pregancy,so we r trying again.oh i had my surgery

in tn.

lori

April 20, 2004

>

> So I guess at this point it's just a waiting game.

> Rose

>

No, it's time to get a new doctor, one who wants to help you keep

your fertility and your uterus. Reproductive Endocrinologists are

the doctors who do this. Don't let your doctor's biases keep you

from doing what is right for you.

April 20, 2004

Do reproductive endocrinologists work with women who are essentially past

their child-bearing years and just don't want to have a hysterectomy? I

have hardly any symptoms with the exception of my " pot belly " from my

uterine size and urinary frequency at night. I don't feel ready to have a

hysterectomy for these indications, but wondered if there was anything else

to do instead of watching and waiting, too. Myomectomy is out of the

question for me; three gyn surgeons with skills in this area (two in

particular) have indicated this may produce heavy bleeding for me. All

three of my consults are not yet recommending UAE until there is more of a

history with this procedure and I personally agree at this point. Given all

us, is there still any reason I would see a RE, especially since I do not

plan to have any more children?

-- Re: Introduction

So I guess at this point it's just a waiting game.

No, it's time to get a new doctor, one who wants to help you keep

your fertility and your uterus. Reproductive Endocrinologists are

the doctors who do this.

April 20, 2004

Rose,

You have GOT to get a second opinion!

Your doctor should do what YOU want, not what he wants.

I am 41 years old and had a huge (10cm!) fibroid as well as 5

smaller ones. I told my doctor that I wanted to keep my uterus for

any possible future pregnancies and she totally understood. I had my

myomectomy 3 weeks ago without a hitch.

Don't let the doctor talk you into a hysterectomy.

Find someone who will really listen to your wants & needs.

Good luck.

-- In uterinefibroids , Rose Chaplain

wrote:

> I told the doctor I had hoped to have another baby and he

basically said no way. I am 38, which he considers far too old, and

he doubts I will get pregnant with the fibroid. He is against doing

a Myomectomy and wants to do a Hysterectomy instead.

April 21, 2004

Hi Rose!

Blood loss, anaemia and dizzyness tieing in with each other

makes perfect sense.

Are you getting enough iron from foods in your diet to help as

well? Tea and coffee may inhibit iron absorption so it's better to

have something like fruit juice with a meal, which aids iron

absorption.

Make sure whatever contraception you take is appropriate for the

scan findings (Mind you, that's a very confusing topic) and also

make sure that you stop and re-start any medicaton at the right

times prior to and following any operation or other procedure,

where relevant.

While you are very low blood-wise, take it easy.

It would be interesting to try and find out what that might be/have

been.

Sometimes smaller ones can actually be more symptomatic

than a larger one...it depends on type and position I believe.

Ordinarily I'd say it might be worth putting up with a lack of

bedside manner if the surgeon is a good one. Then again, it

could show a lack of general respect and consideration, An

overly inflated sense of self-importance might make someone

dismissive of some advice or information they ought to be

listening to. Or they could just have been having a really lousy

day.

< I told the doctor I had hoped to have another baby and he

basically said no way. I am 38, which he considers far too old, >

If age is the issue, isn't that rubbish at 38? When did Cherie Blair

have her baby? I certainly hope it's rubbish as I still want children

and I'm in my mid 30's.

If the scan suggested that there was a real physical problem

inside preventing pregnancy that would be different. Now it may

be that another gynaecological problem alongside could be a

factor, but they haven't told you of one it seems. The position and

type of fibroids can cause problems in a pregnancy. Some

women are advised to hve them removed before getting

pregnant and some women are able to have a baby with fibroids.

because their fibroids won't be posing as much of a problem.

Check out the ttc myomectomy Yahoo forum.

Get a second or if necc. a third or 4th opinion. As far as can be

said from a forum post, it sounds like you are a normal

candidate for a myomectomy, and don't be too quick to write off

yourself as past child-bearing either. Go with a surgeon that is

comfortable an confident about he myomectomy, with experience

and a good succes track record. Ask lots of pre-prepared

questions too.

Um...that's a very confusing subject. I don't know the answer.

Biopsy? I didn't have one of those. I had blood tests, an external

ultrasound and phsyical examination from a GP and a

gynaecologist.

I recommend internet info sites and fibroid book reading. Check

out a recent recorded programme on fibroids at the BBC

website.

Aztek

November 4, 2005

- Ann had a great summary!!! I had an MRI first which they

stated as BU. Months later I went for an HSG which showed that I

actually had a very large septum. I have had 2 surgeries to 'resect'

the septum to help our chances of having a successful pregnancy.

If you are actually SU, you would have the option of the surgery.

The surgery really isn't bad at all! But if you are truly BU, that

shouldn't effect your ability to concieve. What BU effects is in the

later stages of pregnancy (it doesn't cause infertility). It would

probably mean that you might deliver early, but with a good OB they

really can help you through the whole pregnancy.

Good luck with your MRI! I hope that it gives them more information

to work with. I definitely think the HSG would be the next step test

prior to doing the lap/hys. Good luck! I'm so sorry that people

around you have given you such negative, inaccurate information!

Keep us posted!

>

> ,

>

> Welcome. I am so sorry that you were " diagnosed " by a sono tech

that

> had no business telling you something that was patently wrong.

>

> The MRI is a much more useful (relatively high accuracy rates) than

the

> sono for diagnostic purposes. This is with the caveat that the MRI

is

> performed correctly (in plane with your uterus, not in plane with

your

> body - you would *not* believe the number of people who get bad MRIs

> because the techs are not following the protocol). This is also

with

> the caveat that it is read by someone who really understands MAs.

>

> Many techs and radiologists automatically use the term " bicornuate "

> when there are 2 chambers to the uterus - even though the correct

> diagnosis may in fact be something totally different. The

importance

> of figuring out WHAT you are is crucial, because different MAs have

> totally different treatment protocols.

>

> When in doubt, the gold standard for diagnosing MAs is a combination

> laparascopy + hysteroscopy. The lap looks at the outside shape of

your

> uterus, the hyst looks at the inside shape of your uterus. If

needed,

> corrective surgery can also be performed at this time.

>

> > I have been asking lots of questions, particularly of a relative

who

> > is in nursing school and she came back to me with not so good

news.

> > Her professort told her that if it were a BU that I would

probably

> > end up needing IVF and that I would more than likely not carry

past

> > 2nd trimester. This is so difficult to hear because my husband

and

> > I have not even begun to ttc.

>

> Not to be too blunt, but your relative's professor is what my boss

> refers to as " F.A.W. " - as in Flat Ass Wrong. Many, many women on

this

> board are BU and have not only conceived " the old fashioned way " ,

but

> have managed to carry to term or near term. In fact, the

reproductive

> outcome for BU is typically pretty good, and generally DOES NOT

WARRANT

> ANY SURGERY in most cases. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE BU DOES NOT

> AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU WILL NEED IVF. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE BU DOES

NOT

> AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY PAST 2nd TRIMESTER.

>

> You should also be aware that many, many women have been mis-

diagnosed

> as having a BU when they REALLY have a septate uterus ( " SU " ). While

> the prognosis for an uncorrected SU is much worse than the other

types

> of MA, SU has a pretty easy surgical fix that can bring the odds of

> pregnancy up to that of a non-MA uterus. (Also, you should note

that

> while surgery is the recommended course of action in this case,

there a

> several women with uncorrected SU on this board that have had

sucessful

> pregnancies).

>

> I would encourage you to seek out a reproductive endocrinologist (an

> " RE " ) to help you get a full diagnosis. The typical MD is NOT on

top

> of MAs, and even the typical, and otherwise competent, OB/GYN does

not

> see MAs regularly to properly diagnose ( " dx " ) and treat MAs -

> particulary if the particular MA doesn't match up perfectly with the

> little med school textbook diagrams.

>

> I would encourage you to peruse the photos section on the board -

there

> are many, many sucess stories there.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Ann

>

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November 4, 2005