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Not really in the elbows, knees yay, back if bent over

to long hard to upright myself.

Yesterday at the doc's, his test caused such cramping,

which was good for him to see, but bad for me. He

worked a lot on my facial muscles and neck strength

and today, it feels like I have talked for the last 24

hours none stop, if I turn my head a certain way,

while talking, I feel a pull and then it feels like

the blod has been cut off to my head. Really weird

feeling. My toes have yet to settle down. They want to

do the Spock sign with not much movement.

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ouch on the test causing cramping and double ouch on the toes spock think. i

can relate to the spock toes

Oh and also totally relate to the back issue, i too if i am bending over a

bit, then really painful and hard to straighten back up.

ever feel too bottom of feet, ankles, knees, lower back, hips hurt when

getting up after being sitting/laying stil for length of time? like in the

mornings? or for me when have MRI's done or similiar test where have to lay

still, boy getting up and moving is close to impossible. or after sitting

in meetings same thing. can be embarassing when this happens like after a

test, or meetings etc.. I must look like a 100 yo woman trying to move

again LOL. well if dont look like it i definitely feel like that LOL.

||\_/| spock toes

marfla

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Re: knees and elbows?

> Not really in the elbows, knees yay, back if bent over

> to long hard to upright myself.

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> Yesterday at the doc's, his test caused such cramping,

> which was good for him to see, but bad for me. He

> worked a lot on my facial muscles and neck strength

> and today, it feels like I have talked for the last 24

> hours none stop, if I turn my head a certain way,

> while talking, I feel a pull and then it feels like

> the blod has been cut off to my head. Really weird

> feeling. My toes have yet to settle down. They want to

> do the Spock sign with not much movement.

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hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and mostly

while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It requires

manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to pool therapy

was having too many of the joints lock up without another body part to manually

move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one side at a time so that

i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck. doc said this is increase

in spasm activity that has been trying to permanently contract my shoulders for

about a year or so now. this is why doc feels best hope is baclofen pump

because of the uncontrollable level of spasms and spasticity. i wake up

probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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tawny

wow, so sorry you are experiencing so much, and pain grrrr. I really hope

they can get you on something that helps and offers relief.

I can't say i have couldn't to where you are. but for sure the problem in

knees, elbows effects me almost daily. especially though when doing

something like driving, working on computer with arms bent, sitting in

meetings, etc....

I agree it can be so painful. I wake in the night at time with

shoulder/neck cramps. the leg cramps have decreased quite a bit by being on

klonopin at bedtime, a dose of baclofen and zanaflex at bedtime.

I often have neck spasms that go into shoulder during the night or day. I

find that at times during the day my neck will feel like gets stuck/cramps.

having to work it out about only thing to do. i have had episodes of

neck/shoulder spasms that my neck it drawn toward my shoulder. neuro told

me to wear a soft neck collar when having issue of neck being pulled to

side. thankfully i haven't had a major bout of this in a few months. still

have about daily some neck cramps where feels getting stuck, or locks.

by you waking up so many times at night, you aren't getting the best sleep

either. that has to play on your body. have they offered anything that may

help you at night at least to get better sleep?

wishing you the best, and hope things get better for you.

gentle hugs

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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hey marsha,

pain is relative at this point and i just go on and try to not focus on

it.....as for the sleep, actually, i take something for sleep, but those pesky

pain messages override it. tried something else lately and it had me hardly

able to function for 2 days after i took it and still woke up with the

stuckness/pain issues. it is hard to override the pain messages with meds. i

am already on near max of baclofen and xanaflex and lyrica and just about every

other damn thing i am on, so that is why baclofen pump is only next option for

me. the trial was a blissful hour and 1/2 and it even got rid of the essential

tremor in rt hand. just praying that the pool and botox will keep me going

until i am eligible for medicare in jan 07.

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

tawny

wow, so sorry you are experiencing so much, and pain grrrr. I really hope

they can get you on something that helps and offers relief.

I can't say i have couldn't to where you are. but for sure the problem in

knees, elbows effects me almost daily. especially though when doing

something like driving, working on computer with arms bent, sitting in

meetings, etc....

I agree it can be so painful. I wake in the night at time with

shoulder/neck cramps. the leg cramps have decreased quite a bit by being on

klonopin at bedtime, a dose of baclofen and zanaflex at bedtime.

I often have neck spasms that go into shoulder during the night or day. I

find that at times during the day my neck will feel like gets stuck/cramps.

having to work it out about only thing to do. i have had episodes of

neck/shoulder spasms that my neck it drawn toward my shoulder. neuro told

me to wear a soft neck collar when having issue of neck being pulled to

side. thankfully i haven't had a major bout of this in a few months. still

have about daily some neck cramps where feels getting stuck, or locks.

by you waking up so many times at night, you aren't getting the best sleep

either. that has to play on your body. have they offered anything that may

help you at night at least to get better sleep?

wishing you the best, and hope things get better for you.

gentle hugs

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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hey marsha,

pain is relative at this point and i just go on and try to not focus on

it.....as for the sleep, actually, i take something for sleep, but those pesky

pain messages override it. tried something else lately and it had me hardly

able to function for 2 days after i took it and still woke up with the

stuckness/pain issues. it is hard to override the pain messages with meds. i

am already on near max of baclofen and xanaflex and lyrica and just about every

other damn thing i am on, so that is why baclofen pump is only next option for

me. the trial was a blissful hour and 1/2 and it even got rid of the essential

tremor in rt hand. just praying that the pool and botox will keep me going

until i am eligible for medicare in jan 07.

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

tawny

wow, so sorry you are experiencing so much, and pain grrrr. I really hope

they can get you on something that helps and offers relief.

I can't say i have couldn't to where you are. but for sure the problem in

knees, elbows effects me almost daily. especially though when doing

something like driving, working on computer with arms bent, sitting in

meetings, etc....

I agree it can be so painful. I wake in the night at time with

shoulder/neck cramps. the leg cramps have decreased quite a bit by being on

klonopin at bedtime, a dose of baclofen and zanaflex at bedtime.

I often have neck spasms that go into shoulder during the night or day. I

find that at times during the day my neck will feel like gets stuck/cramps.

having to work it out about only thing to do. i have had episodes of

neck/shoulder spasms that my neck it drawn toward my shoulder. neuro told

me to wear a soft neck collar when having issue of neck being pulled to

side. thankfully i haven't had a major bout of this in a few months. still

have about daily some neck cramps where feels getting stuck, or locks.

by you waking up so many times at night, you aren't getting the best sleep

either. that has to play on your body. have they offered anything that may

help you at night at least to get better sleep?

wishing you the best, and hope things get better for you.

gentle hugs

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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hey marsha,

pain is relative at this point and i just go on and try to not focus on

it.....as for the sleep, actually, i take something for sleep, but those pesky

pain messages override it. tried something else lately and it had me hardly

able to function for 2 days after i took it and still woke up with the

stuckness/pain issues. it is hard to override the pain messages with meds. i

am already on near max of baclofen and xanaflex and lyrica and just about every

other damn thing i am on, so that is why baclofen pump is only next option for

me. the trial was a blissful hour and 1/2 and it even got rid of the essential

tremor in rt hand. just praying that the pool and botox will keep me going

until i am eligible for medicare in jan 07.

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

tawny

wow, so sorry you are experiencing so much, and pain grrrr. I really hope

they can get you on something that helps and offers relief.

I can't say i have couldn't to where you are. but for sure the problem in

knees, elbows effects me almost daily. especially though when doing

something like driving, working on computer with arms bent, sitting in

meetings, etc....

I agree it can be so painful. I wake in the night at time with

shoulder/neck cramps. the leg cramps have decreased quite a bit by being on

klonopin at bedtime, a dose of baclofen and zanaflex at bedtime.

I often have neck spasms that go into shoulder during the night or day. I

find that at times during the day my neck will feel like gets stuck/cramps.

having to work it out about only thing to do. i have had episodes of

neck/shoulder spasms that my neck it drawn toward my shoulder. neuro told

me to wear a soft neck collar when having issue of neck being pulled to

side. thankfully i haven't had a major bout of this in a few months. still

have about daily some neck cramps where feels getting stuck, or locks.

by you waking up so many times at night, you aren't getting the best sleep

either. that has to play on your body. have they offered anything that may

help you at night at least to get better sleep?

wishing you the best, and hope things get better for you.

gentle hugs

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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yes, actually january is close to 6 months away!! not to worry, i hang in

there no matter what!!

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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yes, actually january is close to 6 months away!! not to worry, i hang in

there no matter what!!

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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yes, actually january is close to 6 months away!! not to worry, i hang in

there no matter what!!

tawny

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote:

WOW. fingers crossed that things won't worsen, and the pool/botox give you

relief until medicare kicks in. I know Jan 07 must feel and sound so far

away when you are in pain, need and want relief, but Jan isn't too far.

Hang in there.

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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oh don't forget to send good thoughts Tuesday around 1p or so. will see Dr

Khamisani then. I feel good about this appointment for some reason.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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oh don't forget to send good thoughts Tuesday around 1p or so. will see Dr

Khamisani then. I feel good about this appointment for some reason.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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Hey thanks Flora

Will let you guys know something when i can. Right now I am feeling

positive about this appt, and although dont expect a confirm dx leaving on

tuesday, still believe this appt will aid in that direction.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

> Hey Marsha I'll be thinking about you to on Tuesday good thoughts already

> building up for you...................Flora

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Hey thanks Flora

Will let you guys know something when i can. Right now I am feeling

positive about this appt, and although dont expect a confirm dx leaving on

tuesday, still believe this appt will aid in that direction.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

> Hey Marsha I'll be thinking about you to on Tuesday good thoughts already

> building up for you...................Flora

>

>

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Hey thanks Flora

Will let you guys know something when i can. Right now I am feeling

positive about this appt, and although dont expect a confirm dx leaving on

tuesday, still believe this appt will aid in that direction.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

> Hey Marsha I'll be thinking about you to on Tuesday good thoughts already

> building up for you...................Flora

>

>

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got ya! and good luck

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote: oh don't forget to send good thoughts

Tuesday around 1p or so. will see Dr

Khamisani then. I feel good about this appointment for some reason.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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got ya! and good luck

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote: oh don't forget to send good thoughts

Tuesday around 1p or so. will see Dr

Khamisani then. I feel good about this appointment for some reason.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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got ya! and good luck

Marfla marfla04@...> wrote: oh don't forget to send good thoughts

Tuesday around 1p or so. will see Dr

Khamisani then. I feel good about this appointment for some reason.

later gator

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: knees and elbows?

hey marsha,

my latest symptom with my last wave of progression has included (and

mostly while sleeping) locking up of shoulders, elbows, hips and knees. It

requires manual movement of that joint and the problem i was having prior to

pool therapy was having too many of the joints lock up without another body

part to manually move it. is very painful, still happens, but usually one

side at a time so that i can use my other one to pry the damn thing unstuck.

doc said this is increase in spasm activity that has been trying to

permanently contract my shoulders for about a year or so now. this is why

doc feels best hope is baclofen pump because of the uncontrollable level of

spasms and spasticity. i wake up probably anywhere from 5-10 times a nite

shreeking as i try to undo myself.

tawny

marfla04 marfla04@...> wrote:

hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

fun for the weekend.

wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

more in knees, then elbows.

its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten knee

or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had knees/elbows

bent.

not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i get

in calves at times too.

be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

marfla

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Hi Marfla...yes....I do get these tendon and ligament probs if i try

to kneel or have my elbows in one position too long. I have to

stretch them out very slowly!

Take care!

Di

>

> hi everyone, hope each of you are doing ok. and planning something

> fun for the weekend.

>

> wondering if anyone has experienced something like your knee/s,

> and/or elbow/s sorta like lock up? esp when sitting a while like

> driving, or elbow bent while on the computer.

>

> its like tendons, or ligaments, or muscles, something cramps up or

> like twisting until it's too short. happens in wrist sometimes but

> more in knees, then elbows.

>

> its not like the joint locking up though. trying to straighten

knee

> or elbow out doesn't feel good either. but once do that does offer

> some relief, until return to whatever was doing that had

knees/elbows

> bent.

>

> not sure if can explain very well and may have nothing to do with

> everything else. yet i believe it is as its close the cramping i

get

> in calves at times too.

>

> be sure do to something nice for yourself this weekend

>

> marfla

>

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