Steve:Amyloid and nose bleeds/copper

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> This extract explains copper and amyloid relationship..It went through

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> German press recently and watered down considerably in the international

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> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/2332818100v1

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> There was a French doctor in the Toulouse area who maintained that

> drinking red wine protected against Alzheimers.

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> Red wine is apparently a good source of copper.

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> My Goodness think of all the children who have had ear problems. Seems

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> be so common with ASD. I read somewhere they might be amyloid deposits

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> low copper owing to pesticides which quietly chelate the copper.

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> Throw in the antibiotics which is the conventional treatment..

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> Throw in the mercury in the vaccines..

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> I forgot too that copper is used in the water supply to kill yeast..

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> So a child with low copper may not have the ability to deal with

yeast!

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> > > What is glue ears?

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> > The fluid builds up in the middle ear due to the fact that it can't

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[Guest guest]

a few hours ago I spoke with another Alzheimer's expert, Prof Ralph

s of Edith Cowan University. In the mid-80s he was the first to

publish on oxidative stress and Alzheimer's.

He believes the science behind the German article is good, but it's

early days yet and more work has to be done. Basically we need plasma

copper studies of people with AD.

My problem with the low copper thesis is that I know Australian

metropolitan water supplies are almost universally high in copper,

yet our AD (and ASD) rates are on a par with the rest of the

developed world. Perhaps the copper is in a form that many people

cannot use. Or perhaps unbalanced copper - high or low - is a risk

factor. But copper does seem to be relevant in some way.

If unbalanced copper is a factor we could actually start off with

kids who have high copper, then after months or years of high zinc

and molyb supplmentation we could cause them to be low in copper.

Carnosine seems to modulate zinc and copper levels. I have no idea

how DMSA affects copper but I would love to know.

I do trust my craniosacral therapist's ability with kinesiology

testing and this is something I will have him assess in my son.

Just another thing to worry about. I'm getting a bit sick of the

intellectual adventure of treating autism, frankly. Will someone

please come up with a nice, simple, effective program so I can catch

up on two years of lost sleep.

Steve

[Guest guest]

My Handle therapist wants the same - a nice easy therapy protocol for biomed

to recommend to her patients and a doctor to do it. But I don't think it is

so simple. Unfortunately all ASD is probably not caused by the same things

and we don't know enough yet to determine which is which. Maybe in 20

years.

I'm just glad that there is enough information to do something even if it is

trial and error. But I would love to catch up on my sleep too. Maybe in a

year or two as things are going better all the time.

Abby

[ ] Re: Steve:Amyloid and nose bleeds/copper

a few hours ago I spoke with another Alzheimer's expert, Prof Ralph

s of Edith Cowan University. In the mid-80s he was the first to

publish on oxidative stress and Alzheimer's.

He believes the science behind the German article is good, but it's

early days yet and more work has to be done. Basically we need plasma

copper studies of people with AD.

My problem with the low copper thesis is that I know Australian

metropolitan water supplies are almost universally high in copper,

yet our AD (and ASD) rates are on a par with the rest of the

developed world. Perhaps the copper is in a form that many people

cannot use. Or perhaps unbalanced copper - high or low - is a risk

factor. But copper does seem to be relevant in some way.

If unbalanced copper is a factor we could actually start off with

kids who have high copper, then after months or years of high zinc

and molyb supplmentation we could cause them to be low in copper.

Carnosine seems to modulate zinc and copper levels. I have no idea

how DMSA affects copper but I would love to know.

I do trust my craniosacral therapist's ability with kinesiology

testing and this is something I will have him assess in my son.

Just another thing to worry about. I'm getting a bit sick of the

intellectual adventure of treating autism, frankly. Will someone

please come up with a nice, simple, effective program so I can catch

up on two years of lost sleep.

Steve

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[Guest guest]

I agree!!! Specifically for my son?

Barb

[ ] Re: Steve:Amyloid and nose bleeds/copper

> a few hours ago I spoke with another Alzheimer's expert, Prof Ralph

> s of Edith Cowan University. In the mid-80s he was the first to

> publish on oxidative stress and Alzheimer's.

> He believes the science behind the German article is good, but it's

> early days yet and more work has to be done. Basically we need plasma

> copper studies of people with AD.

>

> My problem with the low copper thesis is that I know Australian

> metropolitan water supplies are almost universally high in copper,

> yet our AD (and ASD) rates are on a par with the rest of the

> developed world. Perhaps the copper is in a form that many people

> cannot use. Or perhaps unbalanced copper - high or low - is a risk

> factor. But copper does seem to be relevant in some way.

>

> If unbalanced copper is a factor we could actually start off with

> kids who have high copper, then after months or years of high zinc

> and molyb supplmentation we could cause them to be low in copper.

> Carnosine seems to modulate zinc and copper levels. I have no idea

> how DMSA affects copper but I would love to know.

>

> I do trust my craniosacral therapist's ability with kinesiology

> testing and this is something I will have him assess in my son.

>

> Just another thing to worry about. I'm getting a bit sick of the

> intellectual adventure of treating autism, frankly. Will someone

> please come up with a nice, simple, effective program so I can catch

> up on two years of lost sleep.

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