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Marsha, everything is open for discussion here.....its been talked about

before. If I were you I'd go see a urologist to get a better picture of what

is

happening. A lot of us use bladder control medication for our bladder

urgencies. Yes it means another pill unforunately, I'm on detrol LA and it

helps.

I still wear protection when I know I'm going out for a long time tho. I

have a lot of bladder infection and have had kidney stones. Don't wish that

on anyone!! Gosh they hurt..............................Flora

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kidney stones OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fortunately i only exp the urgencies occasionally. the leaks/dribbling

drive me nuts. go potty. wipe, stand up and dribble. or just stand up after

sitting, not needing to go potty but leak. grrrrrr

have you found any pads that work yet are more comfortable to wear? at this

point I don't need something for heavy lose, so have tried brands for

bladder issues, tried brands for menstural issues but just hate how they

feel. ones with wings at least tend to stay in place better than ones

without. but still even with wings they bunch up, so uncomfortable.

i had a hysterectomy in 2001 and was so glad i didn't need pads ever again.

grrrr now few years later back to some kind of pads at times.

hope you don't have more kidney stones or bladder infections. neither are

fun.

take care of you

marfla

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> Marsha, everything is open for discussion here.....its been talked about

> before. If I were you I'd go see a urologist to get a better picture of

> what is

> happening. A lot of us use bladder control medication for our bladder

> urgencies. Yes it means another pill unforunately, I'm on detrol LA and

> it helps.

> I still wear protection when I know I'm going out for a long time tho. I

> have a lot of bladder infection and have had kidney stones. Don't wish

> that

> on anyone!! Gosh they hurt..............................Flora

>

>

>

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kidney stones OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fortunately i only exp the urgencies occasionally. the leaks/dribbling

drive me nuts. go potty. wipe, stand up and dribble. or just stand up after

sitting, not needing to go potty but leak. grrrrrr

have you found any pads that work yet are more comfortable to wear? at this

point I don't need something for heavy lose, so have tried brands for

bladder issues, tried brands for menstural issues but just hate how they

feel. ones with wings at least tend to stay in place better than ones

without. but still even with wings they bunch up, so uncomfortable.

i had a hysterectomy in 2001 and was so glad i didn't need pads ever again.

grrrr now few years later back to some kind of pads at times.

hope you don't have more kidney stones or bladder infections. neither are

fun.

take care of you

marfla

Be Blessed

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> Marsha, everything is open for discussion here.....its been talked about

> before. If I were you I'd go see a urologist to get a better picture of

> what is

> happening. A lot of us use bladder control medication for our bladder

> urgencies. Yes it means another pill unforunately, I'm on detrol LA and

> it helps.

> I still wear protection when I know I'm going out for a long time tho. I

> have a lot of bladder infection and have had kidney stones. Don't wish

> that

> on anyone!! Gosh they hurt..............................Flora

>

>

>

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kidney stones OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fortunately i only exp the urgencies occasionally. the leaks/dribbling

drive me nuts. go potty. wipe, stand up and dribble. or just stand up after

sitting, not needing to go potty but leak. grrrrrr

have you found any pads that work yet are more comfortable to wear? at this

point I don't need something for heavy lose, so have tried brands for

bladder issues, tried brands for menstural issues but just hate how they

feel. ones with wings at least tend to stay in place better than ones

without. but still even with wings they bunch up, so uncomfortable.

i had a hysterectomy in 2001 and was so glad i didn't need pads ever again.

grrrr now few years later back to some kind of pads at times.

hope you don't have more kidney stones or bladder infections. neither are

fun.

take care of you

marfla

Be Blessed

Re: bladder?

> Marsha, everything is open for discussion here.....its been talked about

> before. If I were you I'd go see a urologist to get a better picture of

> what is

> happening. A lot of us use bladder control medication for our bladder

> urgencies. Yes it means another pill unforunately, I'm on detrol LA and

> it helps.

> I still wear protection when I know I'm going out for a long time tho. I

> have a lot of bladder infection and have had kidney stones. Don't wish

> that

> on anyone!! Gosh they hurt..............................Flora

>

>

>

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Marsha I've learned so much about bladder issues in neurological

patients so let me share.

If your spasticity is increasing, the bladder being a special type of

muscle will spasm upon changing torso position and can overpower the

valve (sphinter) at the base of the bladder. This can occur even if

you just left the bathroom 15 min. earlier. Urispas is the best drug

for this but some also use Detrol or ditropan.

If you are taking too much muscle relaxant then the valve or sphinter

gets floppy which is also a common problem in otherwise healthy

females. Readjusting the relaxant or countering the problem with

Detrol or ditropan will work if the valve hasn't become infected.

When the bladder sphinter becomes weak and floppy it exposes the

inside of the bladder and itself to bacteria. The sphinter can

become inflamed and weaker in the process. Bladder infections cause

worsening of neuro symptoms with more spasticity and worse balance

problems. Even recoevering stroke patients fall more due to bladder

infections.

So a doctor needs to run a urinalysis and urine culture before

deciding which direction to take. There is also an exercise to

strengthen the sphinter that the doc can clue you in on if needed.

Hope that helps

Eva

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Thanks Eva

I know I need to stress this issue more to my docs. I do mention it but do

so as in a fly by manner. As I really don't want to see a urologists.

Knowing the type test they do, not sure I can handle. So I have informed

docs of the problem but honestly I probably have played it down so not to

bring too much attention. its so embarrassing though to experience this esp

when out and about, but for me embarrassing to discuss, plus fear/concern of

being referred to urologist.

I know get over it LOL. I am sure I will get over that feeling when I have

had enough of dealing with it best way I know how.

Again thanks, and gentle hugs

marfla

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Re: bladder?

> Marsha I've learned so much about bladder issues in neurological

> patients so let me share.

> If your spasticity is increasing, the bladder being a special type of

> muscle will spasm upon changing torso position and can overpower the

> valve (sphinter) at the base of the bladder. This can occur even if

> you just left the bathroom 15 min. earlier. Urispas is the best drug

> for this but some also use Detrol or ditropan.

>

> If you are taking too much muscle relaxant then the valve or sphinter

> gets floppy which is also a common problem in otherwise healthy

> females. Readjusting the relaxant or countering the problem with

> Detrol or ditropan will work if the valve hasn't become infected.

>

> When the bladder sphinter becomes weak and floppy it exposes the

> inside of the bladder and itself to bacteria. The sphinter can

> become inflamed and weaker in the process. Bladder infections cause

> worsening of neuro symptoms with more spasticity and worse balance

> problems. Even recoevering stroke patients fall more due to bladder

> infections.

> So a doctor needs to run a urinalysis and urine culture before

> deciding which direction to take. There is also an exercise to

> strengthen the sphinter that the doc can clue you in on if needed.

>

> Hope that helps

> Eva

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I too take Detrol LA. I have also using a catheter. I find that it gives

me more freedom. Allows me to go out for about 4 hours with out using the

bathroom. Instead on getting up every hour at night. I may only get up

about 3 times a night. It stops wetting accidents. My urologist wanted me

to try it a few years ago. As I was working I wouldn't consider it. Now it

helps. What I do is go the usual way then use the catheter and it

completely empties the bladder.

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