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Yeah, i know the animal thing. We have 1 newt, 4 goldfish, 1 crab

and 1 snail in a 10 gallon tank. Then we have a salamander in a

nother 10 gallon tank. Then we have 1 male hamster in a cage and 1

female hamster in another cage with 6 babies. (My daughters'

project. They sell the babies.) I also have a golden retriever, 3

persian cats, 1 main coon cat, 180 gallon saltwater fish tank, and a

30 gallon saltwater fish tank. So, as you can see, i live in a pet

store. lol but I am kind of a germ freak so I feel like i am

constantly cleaning, scooping, vacuuming, or scrubbing something. My

youngest daughter wants to be a vet when she grows up. I was

thinking of sending her to college for it right now so I can get free

service. For some reason, they won't accept her....something about

only being 7 years old. :)

Dena

> > Well my teeth are feeling a little better, yeah right. I've only

> > eaten rice. LOL! Going to the fair this morning for the day with

> my

> > mom and the girl's, all that fair food and I can barely open my

> > mouth! URGGG! Oh well s#@% happens! This will be the first thing

> > I've done with my gir's all summer, can you believe that? I have

> not

> > had the money to do anything. However I think I'm going to try

and

> > take them to Ceader Point for the Halloween show. That is so

> > exciting. Wish you all could go! It starts the 26th of this month

> I

> > think.

> > Aimee~I e-mailed you and I hope you got it! Seems like I've wrote

> > you lots but you are not getting them. They always come back to

me.

> > Just so you know...you and Donnie are in my thoughts and prayer's

> > and I wish you the best of luck next week! Can't wait to hear the

> > news of your TR surgery!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > ~&~~You are such sweeties! Thanks for making my days

> > brighter! I feel like you all are my sister's who wear wings!

> > When I think my days are going to be filled with missery you guys

> > always find good things to say that helps me make it thro the day!

> > Everyone here has touched me in some way! I just wanted to say

> thank

> > you from the bottom of my heart!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > Everyone~I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! The weather

here

> > is great, sunny and not to cold (during the day) and not too hot!

> > Perfect for the fair. My mom will be here at 8:00 this morning

and

> I

> > guess we are going to make a day of it! Going to see what all the

> > free things they have there this year, I know I'm awful! LOL!

> > I hope you all get the +++++answers you are looking for! I can't

> > wait to be among all of you TTC! I'll get there it's just a

matter

> > of time! And to all you preggo's take it easy and relax! Eat a

lot

> > and be happy! To all getting ready for your TR's I wish you all

> long

> > and healthy tubes! All newbies, welcome to great awesome group of

> > ladies! Now you are one too!

> > Well I'll be in and out this weekend but wanted to say " hi " to

all

> > and wish you all a great weekend! Keep your chins up and remember

> > God works in mysterious ways! Just when you least expect it!

> (listen

> > to me!)LOL! I'm sure everything will work out for the best! I'm

> > trying to keep my chin up and with all the help I get from you

> > ladies it really helps me to keep it up!

> > Take care and I'll talk to you all soon!

> > Big Hugs~

> > Penny B.32 in Ohio

> > DF Jim 45

> > DD Kendra 9

> > DD Shlanea 8

> > TL 95'

> > TR ASAP!!!!I HOPE!

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Yeah, i know the animal thing. We have 1 newt, 4 goldfish, 1 crab

and 1 snail in a 10 gallon tank. Then we have a salamander in a

nother 10 gallon tank. Then we have 1 male hamster in a cage and 1

female hamster in another cage with 6 babies. (My daughters'

project. They sell the babies.) I also have a golden retriever, 3

persian cats, 1 main coon cat, 180 gallon saltwater fish tank, and a

30 gallon saltwater fish tank. So, as you can see, i live in a pet

store. lol but I am kind of a germ freak so I feel like i am

constantly cleaning, scooping, vacuuming, or scrubbing something. My

youngest daughter wants to be a vet when she grows up. I was

thinking of sending her to college for it right now so I can get free

service. For some reason, they won't accept her....something about

only being 7 years old. :)

Dena

> > Well my teeth are feeling a little better, yeah right. I've only

> > eaten rice. LOL! Going to the fair this morning for the day with

> my

> > mom and the girl's, all that fair food and I can barely open my

> > mouth! URGGG! Oh well s#@% happens! This will be the first thing

> > I've done with my gir's all summer, can you believe that? I have

> not

> > had the money to do anything. However I think I'm going to try

and

> > take them to Ceader Point for the Halloween show. That is so

> > exciting. Wish you all could go! It starts the 26th of this month

> I

> > think.

> > Aimee~I e-mailed you and I hope you got it! Seems like I've wrote

> > you lots but you are not getting them. They always come back to

me.

> > Just so you know...you and Donnie are in my thoughts and prayer's

> > and I wish you the best of luck next week! Can't wait to hear the

> > news of your TR surgery!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > ~&~~You are such sweeties! Thanks for making my days

> > brighter! I feel like you all are my sister's who wear wings!

> > When I think my days are going to be filled with missery you guys

> > always find good things to say that helps me make it thro the day!

> > Everyone here has touched me in some way! I just wanted to say

> thank

> > you from the bottom of my heart!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > Everyone~I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! The weather

here

> > is great, sunny and not to cold (during the day) and not too hot!

> > Perfect for the fair. My mom will be here at 8:00 this morning

and

> I

> > guess we are going to make a day of it! Going to see what all the

> > free things they have there this year, I know I'm awful! LOL!

> > I hope you all get the +++++answers you are looking for! I can't

> > wait to be among all of you TTC! I'll get there it's just a

matter

> > of time! And to all you preggo's take it easy and relax! Eat a

lot

> > and be happy! To all getting ready for your TR's I wish you all

> long

> > and healthy tubes! All newbies, welcome to great awesome group of

> > ladies! Now you are one too!

> > Well I'll be in and out this weekend but wanted to say " hi " to

all

> > and wish you all a great weekend! Keep your chins up and remember

> > God works in mysterious ways! Just when you least expect it!

> (listen

> > to me!)LOL! I'm sure everything will work out for the best! I'm

> > trying to keep my chin up and with all the help I get from you

> > ladies it really helps me to keep it up!

> > Take care and I'll talk to you all soon!

> > Big Hugs~

> > Penny B.32 in Ohio

> > DF Jim 45

> > DD Kendra 9

> > DD Shlanea 8

> > TL 95'

> > TR ASAP!!!!I HOPE!

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Yeah, i know the animal thing. We have 1 newt, 4 goldfish, 1 crab

and 1 snail in a 10 gallon tank. Then we have a salamander in a

nother 10 gallon tank. Then we have 1 male hamster in a cage and 1

female hamster in another cage with 6 babies. (My daughters'

project. They sell the babies.) I also have a golden retriever, 3

persian cats, 1 main coon cat, 180 gallon saltwater fish tank, and a

30 gallon saltwater fish tank. So, as you can see, i live in a pet

store. lol but I am kind of a germ freak so I feel like i am

constantly cleaning, scooping, vacuuming, or scrubbing something. My

youngest daughter wants to be a vet when she grows up. I was

thinking of sending her to college for it right now so I can get free

service. For some reason, they won't accept her....something about

only being 7 years old. :)

Dena

> > Well my teeth are feeling a little better, yeah right. I've only

> > eaten rice. LOL! Going to the fair this morning for the day with

> my

> > mom and the girl's, all that fair food and I can barely open my

> > mouth! URGGG! Oh well s#@% happens! This will be the first thing

> > I've done with my gir's all summer, can you believe that? I have

> not

> > had the money to do anything. However I think I'm going to try

and

> > take them to Ceader Point for the Halloween show. That is so

> > exciting. Wish you all could go! It starts the 26th of this month

> I

> > think.

> > Aimee~I e-mailed you and I hope you got it! Seems like I've wrote

> > you lots but you are not getting them. They always come back to

me.

> > Just so you know...you and Donnie are in my thoughts and prayer's

> > and I wish you the best of luck next week! Can't wait to hear the

> > news of your TR surgery!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > ~&~~You are such sweeties! Thanks for making my days

> > brighter! I feel like you all are my sister's who wear wings!

> > When I think my days are going to be filled with missery you guys

> > always find good things to say that helps me make it thro the day!

> > Everyone here has touched me in some way! I just wanted to say

> thank

> > you from the bottom of my heart!

> > Big Hugs~

> >

> > Everyone~I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! The weather

here

> > is great, sunny and not to cold (during the day) and not too hot!

> > Perfect for the fair. My mom will be here at 8:00 this morning

and

> I

> > guess we are going to make a day of it! Going to see what all the

> > free things they have there this year, I know I'm awful! LOL!

> > I hope you all get the +++++answers you are looking for! I can't

> > wait to be among all of you TTC! I'll get there it's just a

matter

> > of time! And to all you preggo's take it easy and relax! Eat a

lot

> > and be happy! To all getting ready for your TR's I wish you all

> long

> > and healthy tubes! All newbies, welcome to great awesome group of

> > ladies! Now you are one too!

> > Well I'll be in and out this weekend but wanted to say " hi " to

all

> > and wish you all a great weekend! Keep your chins up and remember

> > God works in mysterious ways! Just when you least expect it!

> (listen

> > to me!)LOL! I'm sure everything will work out for the best! I'm

> > trying to keep my chin up and with all the help I get from you

> > ladies it really helps me to keep it up!

> > Take care and I'll talk to you all soon!

> > Big Hugs~

> > Penny B.32 in Ohio

> > DF Jim 45

> > DD Kendra 9

> > DD Shlanea 8

> > TL 95'

> > TR ASAP!!!!I HOPE!

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Okay, I said my last post was it for the weekend! Just one more?

Sound like my lil boy! Ya, I getcha. My youngest is not the only pet

crazy one in our house. My 10 yr. old ( Asia ) is an animal lover

and wants to be a vet too. She & her cousin have plans to buy my

parents property where they are not still living and open a

shelter/vet office. They have shared these plans with my mom who

says if they get ready the property is theirs. I think she said it

because she thinks their plans will change. They just may call her

on that one. When her cousin stays with us they are always getting

on the net and searching on shelter sites dreaming of giving a home

to many dogs they see. I love animals too and also planned to be a

vet until about 8th grd. when I decided I didn't have the stomach

for the blood and did not want to see them hurt. It's hard after you

have kids to give the attention to them they deserve so I don't get

to enjoy them as much as I once did. But the kids help in that

department. We have a male chow who is my boy- I love him & a had a

female 1/2 chow 1/2 german shepard who died getting hit at camp this

summer. We had 4 litters of puppies before getting mom fixed. We had

so much fun with them each time. But after the girls started

searching all these shelter sites I started feeling guilty and we

finally got mom fixed. This was just before she got hit and we still

had one pup who was also with us at camp. There was no way we could

part with him after this happened to moma. He was sad all day - he

knew. Well I'v rambled on. Enjoy your critters!

Abundant Blessings,

Macky

> > > Well my teeth are feeling a little better, yeah right. I've

only

> > > eaten rice. LOL! Going to the fair this morning for the day

with

> > my

> > > mom and the girl's, all that fair food and I can barely open

my

> > > mouth! URGGG! Oh well s#@% happens! This will be the first

thing

> > > I've done with my gir's all summer, can you believe that? I

have

> > not

> > > had the money to do anything. However I think I'm going to try

> and

> > > take them to Ceader Point for the Halloween show. That is so

> > > exciting. Wish you all could go! It starts the 26th of this

month

> > I

> > > think.

> > > Aimee~I e-mailed you and I hope you got it! Seems like I've

wrote

> > > you lots but you are not getting them. They always come back

to

> me.

> > > Just so you know...you and Donnie are in my thoughts and

prayer's

> > > and I wish you the best of luck next week! Can't wait to hear

the

> > > news of your TR surgery!

> > > Big Hugs~

> > >

> > > ~&~~You are such sweeties! Thanks for making my

days

> > > brighter! I feel like you all are my sister's who wear wings!

> > > When I think my days are going to be filled with missery you

guys

> > > always find good things to say that helps me make it thro the

day!

> > > Everyone here has touched me in some way! I just wanted to say

> > thank

> > > you from the bottom of my heart!

> > > Big Hugs~

> > >

> > > Everyone~I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! The weather

> here

> > > is great, sunny and not to cold (during the day) and not too

hot!

> > > Perfect for the fair. My mom will be here at 8:00 this morning

> and

> > I

> > > guess we are going to make a day of it! Going to see what all

the

> > > free things they have there this year, I know I'm awful! LOL!

> > > I hope you all get the +++++answers you are looking for! I

can't

> > > wait to be among all of you TTC! I'll get there it's just a

> matter

> > > of time! And to all you preggo's take it easy and relax! Eat a

> lot

> > > and be happy! To all getting ready for your TR's I wish you

all

> > long

> > > and healthy tubes! All newbies, welcome to great awesome group

of

> > > ladies! Now you are one too!

> > > Well I'll be in and out this weekend but wanted to say " hi " to

> all

> > > and wish you all a great weekend! Keep your chins up and

remember

> > > God works in mysterious ways! Just when you least expect it!

> > (listen

> > > to me!)LOL! I'm sure everything will work out for the best!

I'm

> > > trying to keep my chin up and with all the help I get from you

> > > ladies it really helps me to keep it up!

> > > Take care and I'll talk to you all soon!

> > > Big Hugs~

> > > Penny B.32 in Ohio

> > > DF Jim 45

> > > DD Kendra 9

> > > DD Shlanea 8

> > > TL 95'

> > > TR ASAP!!!!I HOPE!

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Hi i had my tubal in 1994, and i have had real bad feelings about my self i

have been so hateful plus laughing one minute then crying the next. I feel like

my new husband doesn,t love me but i know he does. I have 4 kids from a

formal marriage my ex made me get the tubal, now he is 34 and married a 19 year

old

and they are going to start a family, it really hurts me because my husband

has no kids and i can,t give him any right now because of money but some day

maybe. I want to thank you for your letter, i really thought that i was looseing

my mind. i feel sorry for my kids and husband.

THANKS ALOT

Marsha

Collman

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Ya know, half way is a huge accomplishment. Congratulations! Let me

know how church service goes if you get a chance. My 13 year old son

went to an out of town youth conference last Fri. and Sat. He never

complains about church but does not get real involved during the

singing during praise & worship. Last Sun. after his youth

conference he gave a short testimony about his experience at the

conference and during singing he was actually clapping his hands to

the music! I had to elbow my husband to be sure he didn't miss it!-

The only time he has got involved in the singing was last Dec. when

we took a group to the Newsboys concert(christian) and even then I

was kind of pushing him to join the rest of us. It is exciting to

see God working in my childrens lives! Take care Bobby.

Abundant Blessings,

Macky- In

TubalLigationReversal , " Bobbie Ann "

wrote:

> It's great to hear from you!I'm still making payments,$2,400 so

> far.It seems so close,yet so far away.Yeah,I got the e-mail about

> church.This sunday will be my first sunday back.They said they

made

> some changes.We'll see.I hope so,I want to serve there,it's really

> hands on.On my payments..this month will put me on the half way

mark!

> We're sending in $600 a month!The Lord really is sending in the

> funds on a regular basis.Gotta luv em!

> Bobbie Ann!

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Marsha, hang in there! I honestly had never been the jelous type and

I came home from the tubal right after the birth of my son feeling

like my husband was going to find a a new woman. I think it had

everything to do with these deep feelings of disgust with myself. I

felt so terrible about myself with no good reason except that I had

a tubal. It did not bother me at the time that I had the tubal. The

effects from the tubal bothered me huge but the thought did not

bother me. Does that make sense? Anyway I questioned everything back

then. Was it the tubal? Was it post partum which I didn't know as I

had not felt it with my first two. Now I think maybe it was both! I

know I got alot better yet I still had alot of symtoms. I loved my

lil' boy so much and we were so glad to have him but it was real

rough, the first year especially. I was so convinced my husband did

not want to be with me yet he stayed and was so forgiving of me. He

said he believed it was the tubal too when I started to figure the

timing out. I'm so thankful to my husband in all of this. If I had

been on the other end I don't think I could have beared what he did.

I guess a mans strong emotional side is a great thing. If you have

not shared the stories from other women here with your husband, you

gotta! That can really help for your husband to see it really

effects alot of women this way and it's not just how you tend to

handle it. Many of us felt like we were going crazy after our tubal.

Just seeing the stories from others made me finally feel like I was

not alone in this and helped me be able to just go to my husband and

say " I really need you to hold me for a few minutes. " Well it would

end up being longer than a few min. usually and I would just cry and

cry into his shoulder instead of punching it! Because I finally did

not judge myself so hard when these feelings crept up and I did not

have to be so embarrassed that I needed a good cry. I grew up being

such a tough child and hardly shed a tear and if I did I wanted to

be in private. I had a hard time leaning on anyone. I've had good

friends and family comment on this. With the symtoms I kind of

thought I was making up for lost time! I did not talk about what was

going on for so long out of embarrassment and shame. At times I felt

like we were like druggies or alcoholics because of the fighting. It

tore me up and yet every month I would say " okay I will do better

next month - next cycle! I really don't feel the anger towards the

medical field I did for awhile either so I think that's why I have

not persued ideas to figure out how to get the word out. I've let it

rest and then when I start talking & hearing others stories I

think " boy we really should try to get the word out in every way we

can to save others from what we went through. " As far as your ex, I

can understand how you would feel. I can only say that prayer asking

God to help you forgive your husband can really help. It has dome

amazing things between me and my ex. Sometimes I have to go back and

cover it in prayer again as I feel bad feling creep up again. My

situation is not the same as yours but with God my ex's family and

ours are doing surprisingly well together. I am a way I could not be

with them without God - really! Sorry so dang long!

Abundant Blessings,

Macky --

In TubalLigationReversal , collmane@w... wrote:

> Hi i had my tubal in 1994, and i have had real bad feelings about

my self i

> have been so hateful plus laughing one minute then crying the

next. I feel like

> my new husband doesn,t love me but i know he does. I have 4 kids

from a

> formal marriage my ex made me get the tubal, now he is 34 and

married a 19 year old

> and they are going to start a family, it really hurts me because

my husband

> has no kids and i can,t give him any right now because of money

but some day

> maybe. I want to thank you for your letter, i really thought that

i was looseing

> my mind. i feel sorry for my kids and husband.

>

THANKS ALOT

>

Marsha

> Collman

>

>

>

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Of course you can. I would be too scared to tell a psyco PTS girl

no. You know how we can get!! LOL.

> > > > Before I had my tubal, a friend told me that they made her

> > period

> > > SO much worse and painful, and I thought " no way, what's the

> > > connection? " . OMG I have had NOT ONLY the most painful periods

> > since

> > > my tubal, but I have the same problems when I ovulate...cramps,

> > > backache, leg aches, boob aches. My poor husband gets about

six

> > days

> > > of " normal me " a month. It's kinda neat to think that could

> > change...

> > > >

> > > > Tam

> > > >

>

>

>

>

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He HE HE!! That is too funny!!! I have been all over the place today!!!

Re: Macky

Of course you can. I would be too scared to tell a psyco PTS girl

no. You know how we can get!! LOL.

> > > > Before I had my tubal, a friend told me that they made her

> > period

> > > SO much worse and painful, and I thought " no way, what's the

> > > connection? " . OMG I have had NOT ONLY the most painful periods

> > since

> > > my tubal, but I have the same problems when I ovulate...cramps,

> > > backache, leg aches, boob aches. My poor husband gets about

six

> > days

> > > of " normal me " a month. It's kinda neat to think that could

> > change...

> > > >

> > > > Tam

> > > >

>

>

>

>

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I tried to send you a post.I guess I accidently erased it.I'm just

sitting here looking forward to my tr.I know I still have a few more

months.How's the pts?All gone I hope!Soon mine will be gone too!My

dh and I am really making sacrifices for this.I went with my pg sis

to register at different stores for her baby shower,it really

encouraged me.I really don't think I'm ready at this moment to have

another baby,but I'm putting it all in God's timming!I'm so grateful

for everything he has done in my life!

Bobbie Ann

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