Re: 15 mo. child + Reaction to Vaccine

[Guest guest]

The ear infection suggests the likelihood that the child was low in

glutathione, thus may still have had impaired immunity and impaired

detoxification with the injections occurred.

Impairments in a glutathione-transferase gene as fairly common. If the

child has one or more such weak alleles in GSH-related genes, then

" mildly " impaired detox and " mildly " impaired immunity will be lifelong,

and *perhaps* alleviated with certain supplements.

1: Laryngoscope. 2001 Aug;111(8):1486-9.

Management of chronic otitis media with effusion: the role of glutathione.

Testa B, Testa D, Mesolella M, D'Errico G, Tricarico D, Motta G.

Department of Otolaryngology-Second University School of Medicine of Naples,

Italy.

BACKGROUND: The inflammatory cells documented in chronic otitis media with

effusion (OME) spontaneously release oxidants which can induce middle ear (ME)

epithelial cell damage. Glutathione (GSH), a major extracellular antioxidant in

humans, plays a central role in antioxidant defense. PURPOSE: To evaluate the

effects of GSH treatment on chronic otitis media with effusion (OME). SUBJECTS

AND INTERVENTION: Sixty children with chronic OME were enrolled, 30 of whom were

randomly assigned to the treatment group and 30 to the placebo group. Patients

in the treatment group received 600 mg glutathione in 4 mL saline per day

subdivided into five 2-minute administrations given by nasal aerosol every 3 or

4 waking hours for 2 weeks. Patients in the control group received 4 mL saline

per day following the same procedure as for GSH treatment. RESULTS: Three months

after therapy improvement had occurred in 66.6% of patients in the GSH-treated

group and in 8% of the control subjects (P <.01). CONCLUSION: On the basis of

these results, GSH treatment could be considered for the nonsurgical management

of chronic OME.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 11568588 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

princessjuscuz wrote:

>I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are the

>experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever since

>of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

>long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well baby

>visit (mother had back surgery)

>Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

>given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

>noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

>swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

>

>4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

>infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

>

>He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

>antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

>Breast feed baby for 1 year.

>

>I told her to give lots of Vit C & ALL the supplements 3-4 X a day

>

>What have I missed to tell her?

>My son was not affected by these two (that I'm aware off)

>Knowledge from ya'll will be GOD sent for her - When I told her I

>would e-mail my list & see if they had advise/input etc...she got

>really emotional.

>

>She asked if she should call her doctor & tell him about it & asked

>what I thought he might say - I told her he would tell her this is a

>normal reaction (like they told me many times)I also told her if he

>said it was something else & wanted to give a antibiotic to REALLY

>do her research becasue it might make this situation worse....

>correct?

>

>I told her YES call him & if he does not report it - she could-

>

>Thanks,

>Marisha

>(Lake 3 1/2)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>=======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Find out if they've been giving infant tylenol and if they have, tell

them to STOP it now. Tylenol lowers the body's glutathione levels

and contributes to the problems. I would also tell her that this is

a pretty significant reaction and she really ought to look into them

closer and consider stopping them. The vitamin C is good, she may

also want to start doing epsom salt baths... I really don't know what

else can be done. Maybe someone else has more suggestions. But,

just wanted to let you know about the tylenol...

W

> I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are

the

> experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever

since

> of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

> long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well baby

> visit (mother had back surgery)

> Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

> given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

>

> 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

>

> He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

> antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

> Breast feed baby for 1 year.

>

> I

[Guest guest]

Marisha

Here are some great websites for addition treatment options and

information about Post-Vaccination Syndrome. I will keep your

friend in my prayers.

http://www.tinussmits.nl/english/dynamic.htm?main=pvs/dynamic.htm?

main1=http://www.tinussmits.nl/english/pvs/Post-Vaccination%

20Syndrome.htm

http://www.1st-autism-body-brain-connection.com/

> I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are

the

> experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever

since

> of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

> long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well

baby

> visit (mother had back surgery)

> Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

> given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

>

> 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

>

> He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

> antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

> Breast feed baby for 1 year.

>

> I told her to give lots of Vit C & ALL the supplements 3-4 X a day

>

> What have I missed to tell her?

> My son was not affected by these two (that I'm aware off)

> Knowledge from ya'll will be GOD sent for her - When I told her I

> would e-mail my list & see if they had advise/input etc...she got

> really emotional.

>

> She asked if she should call her doctor & tell him about it &

asked

> what I thought he might say - I told her he would tell her this is

a

> normal reaction (like they told me many times)I also told her if

he

> said it was something else & wanted to give a antibiotic to REALLY

> do her research becasue it might make this situation worse....

> correct?

>

> I told her YES call him & if he does not report it - she could-

>

> Thanks,

> Marisha

> (Lake 3 1/2)

[Guest guest]

I am in Germany and had an appointment with Dr. Tinus Smits, M.D., last

Friday in Holland.

He was amazing. A tall, gentle giant who has hands like angelo's

. .

He put my daughter on Saccharum Officianalis. (Weirdly enough, her

persistent cold disppeared that day..This was my daughter's observation

...not mine and she was determined to persuade me from the outside that he

didn't need to see amymore " stupid " doctors who like taking blood.) She

will take increasing doses of this for the next year until she reaches the

LM version.

He will also be giving her homeopathic detox versions of the vaccines she

received.This entails procuring a vial of the vaccine, sending it to a lab

in Belgium which makes a homeopathic version.

As I have had personally, two good experiences with homeopathy, I am indeed

curious to see how this progresses.

Homeopathy is very common here and people almost take it for granted...Kids

love it because it's gentle and effective and avoids painful procedures.

in Germany

From: " jaelen_n_faithsmom " <jaelen_n_faithsmom@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:22 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: 15 mo. child + Reaction to Vaccine

> Marisha

>

> Here are some great websites for addition treatment options and

> information about Post-Vaccination Syndrome. I will keep your

> friend in my prayers.

>

> http://www.tinussmits.nl/english/dynamic.htm?main=pvs/dynamic.htm?

> main1=http://www.tinussmits.nl/english/pvs/Post-Vaccination%

> 20Syndrome.htm

>

> http://www.1st-autism-body-brain-connection.com/

>

>

> > I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are

> the

> > experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever

> since

> > of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

> > long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well

> baby

> > visit (mother had back surgery)

> > Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

> > given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> > noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> > swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

> >

> > 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> > infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

> >

> > He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

> > antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

> > Breast feed baby for 1 year.

> >

> > I told her to give lots of Vit C & ALL the supplements 3-4 X a day

> >

> > What have I missed to tell her?

> > My son was not affected by these two (that I'm aware off)

> > Knowledge from ya'll will be GOD sent for her - When I told her I

> > would e-mail my list & see if they had advise/input etc...she got

> > really emotional.

> >

> > She asked if she should call her doctor & tell him about it &

> asked

> > what I thought he might say - I told her he would tell her this is

> a

> > normal reaction (like they told me many times)I also told her if

> he

> > said it was something else & wanted to give a antibiotic to REALLY

> > do her research becasue it might make this situation worse....

> > correct?

> >

> > I told her YES call him & if he does not report it - she could-

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Marisha

> > (Lake 3 1/2)

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely stop the tylenol. Perhaps, advil, but don't give the

tylenol. I think my son seized because we gave him tylenol when his

system was depleted of the glutathione, vitamin c and Proefa would be

what I would give, the proefa has GLA to decrease the inflamation

going on, and the epsom salts too.

> > I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are

> the

> > experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever

> since

> > of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

> > long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well

baby

> > visit (mother had back surgery)

> > Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

> > given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> > noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> > swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

> >

> > 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> > infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

> >

> > He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

> > antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

> > Breast feed baby for 1 year.

> >

> > I

[Guest guest]

Definitely stop the tylenol. Perhaps, advil, but don't give the

tylenol. I think my son seized because we gave him tylenol when his

system was depleted of the glutathione, vitamin c and Proefa would be

what I would give, the proefa has GLA to decrease the inflamation

going on, and the epsom salts too.

> > I have a friend which is really worried right now......Ya'll are

> the

> > experts ...(I just stated @ this in Jan. with my son) - & ever

> since

> > of course I have been preaching to this friend... anyways it's a

> > long story but the mother-in-law took her 15 mo. in for a well

baby

> > visit (mother had back surgery)

> > Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

> > given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> > noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> > swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

> >

> > 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> > infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

> >

> > He has never had any reaction till now..I think he has only had 2

> > antibiotic scripts his lifetime.

> > Breast feed baby for 1 year.

> >

> > I

[Guest guest]

> Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

HepB is what made my son autistic.

> given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

I would give lots of vitamin C and/or other antioxidants, to remove

any metals injected with the vax. You might also consider giving

anti-virals like olive leaf extract.

> 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

Stop giving milk, it is a prime contributor of ear infections.

> I told her to give lots of Vit C & ALL the supplements 3-4 X a day

This sounds good.

> said it was something else & wanted to give a antibiotic to REALLY

> do her research becasue it might make this situation worse....

> correct?

I would not recommend antibiotics unless it is really required.

> I told her YES call him & if he does not report it - she could-

Yes, she can report it also.

Dana

[Guest guest]

If thisw child shows ANY further deterioration, a competent homeopath should

be consulted on an emergency basis. This reaction should be documented and

VIDEOTAPED. LArch bark or mullein might be good first aid. Probiotic

chewables or coconut milk might be useful too.

[ ] Re: 15 mo. child + Reaction to Vaccine

>

>

> > Baby was given a Hep B + Hib 4 (What damage can these do?)

>

>

> HepB is what made my son autistic.

>

>

> > given it Thursday - running fever now for 3 days

> > noticed today on his neck she believes one of his lymph glands is

> > swollen - Does not really want to walk either.

>

>

> I would give lots of vitamin C and/or other antioxidants, to remove

> any metals injected with the vax. You might also consider giving

> anti-virals like olive leaf extract.

>

>

> > 4 weeks before this he was given 10 days of antibiotics for a ear

> > infection (this didn't help the immune system-I do know that much)

>

>

> Stop giving milk, it is a prime contributor of ear infections.

>

>

> > I told her to give lots of Vit C & ALL the supplements 3-4 X a day

>

>

> This sounds good.

>

>

> > said it was something else & wanted to give a antibiotic to REALLY

> > do her research becasue it might make this situation worse....

> > correct?

>

>

> I would not recommend antibiotics unless it is really required.

>

>

> > I told her YES call him & if he does not report it - she could-

>

>

> Yes, she can report it also.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

I would also consider some CLO if she isn't already doing it. Found

to stop the Aboriginees (sp?) from dying after MMR I think it was.

Debi