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Hi, I'm fairly new to this site and have been lurking for about a

week. I'e had fibroids for a number of years and this year (turning

46) I was told by my gynecologist that they have grown and was

recommended to have the embolization. She made it out that this or a

hysterectomy would be my only choices and I have held out. I am

against surgery for several reasons even though my synptoms have

gotten very uncomfortable heavy bleeding,cramping(during menses),

pressure on bladder and it has been interfering with many aspects of

my lifestyle. After reading some of the posts from other here who

have shared their experiences with surgeries I am still inclinedto

find another way maybe just to manage the symptoms until menopause.

Does anyone have any knowlegde or personal experience with natural

alternatives such as changing diet vitamin therapy? I would really

appreciate to hear from anyone about this who could shed some light.

I am commited to living with this condition unless the situation

would become lifethreatening. Any feedback would be great!

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Hi Cyndi,

You may want to also post your question to

the " HealingFibroidsNaturally " group as well as this one.

Thanks,

Shaunah

> Hi, I'm fairly new to this site and have been lurking for about a

> week. I'e had fibroids for a number of years and this year (turning

> 46) I was told by my gynecologist that they have grown and was

> recommended to have the embolization. She made it out that this or

a

> hysterectomy would be my only choices and I have held out. I am

> against surgery for several reasons even though my synptoms have

> gotten very uncomfortable heavy bleeding,cramping(during menses),

> pressure on bladder and it has been interfering with many aspects

of

> my lifestyle. After reading some of the posts from other here who

> have shared their experiences with surgeries I am still inclinedto

> find another way maybe just to manage the symptoms until menopause.

> Does anyone have any knowlegde or personal experience with natural

> alternatives such as changing diet vitamin therapy? I would really

> appreciate to hear from anyone about this who could shed some

light.

> I am commited to living with this condition unless the situation

> would become lifethreatening. Any feedback would be great!

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Hi there cyndi

< was recommended to have the embolization. She made it out

that this or a hysterectomy would be my only choices>

What about the myomectomy option if those two are mentioned?

The above mentioned three treatments all get rid of, or relieve

symtoms. You can discuss symptom relief with the GP. They

may have suggestions to offer about the bleeding.

*Get a copy of Lark's pink pamphlet book about food and

symptoms.

*Check out Yahoo's Healing Fibroids Naturally forum

* Beware miracle cures....we should be so lucky.

* Make sure you are getting all the food groups and that the diet

is normal and balanced.

Aztek

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Hello Cyndi & welcome to the list. I am a couple years ahead of you,

48, and it sounds like we have a similar history. I tried some

alternative methods during the many years we " watched " my fibroids

(altho I never tried homeopathy). My experience, and my opinion, is

that diet and exercise in particular help with symptoms and for that

reason alone are WELL WORTH the effort especially if you want to try

to make it " intact " to menopause. But in my case there was no impact

on growth.

Symptoms also depend a lot on the location of your fibroid. Mine was

on top of my uterus, growing out into the abdomen (it never affected

the uterine lining at all and I did not have heavy bleeding). This is

the least symptomatic kind of fibroid until it gets large enough to

create bladder and bowel pressure, which mine finally did and after a

year or two of further investigation and more intensive work with an

integrative doctor, I finally had an abdominal myo on 12/8/03.

I am very glad I had the surgery, finally, after trying many other

things. I would also say to you that it is NOT necessary to " live

with this condition unless it becomes life-threatening " especially

since you say you are having heavy bleeding and it is affecting your

lifestyle. We are often only too willing to put up with a lot that we

shouldn't put up with, and over time you may not even realize how

affected your life really is. So consider options. Ask the women

here.

This is a list of what I tried and what happened. NONE of these

remedies caused the fibroid to stop growing -- it just kept on

keeping on for 10 years, oblivious to my many efforts to shut it

down. But several things helped me feel good anyway:

Acupuncture and Chinese herbs (prescribed by a doctor of Chinese

medicine, not self-prescribed) -- I had acupuncture before I knew I

had fibroids; I had it for carpal tunnel syndrome, but several months

of acupuncture (once a week for several visits, then once a month)

and herbs reduced premenstrual carpal tunnel flare-ups and general

PMS symptoms.

Progesterone cream: yes, I made sure I had the real thing. I tried it

for 3 months, it had no affect on anything at all that I could tell.

Vitex: this is supposed to be either an " adaptogenic " (makes hormones

balance themselves) or a progesterone-supporting herb, depending what

you read, and some practitioners claim it will shrink fibroids. I

took it for nine months. It improved general PMS symptoms and

lengthened my cycles a little, from 26-28 days, to 28-30 days; might

have made my periods slightly lighter but hard to tell since that's

my general trend over the past few years anyway. No effect on fibroid

growth.

Aerobic exercise: this probably makes the most dramatic difference in

PMS symptoms and general feeling of well-being. I will tell anybody,

DO IT! If I go through a cycle without regular exercise my (fibro-

cystic) breasts really hurt before my period. If I exercise

regularly, they don't hurt or swell ever, at all. It's very dramatic.

But my fibroids were discovered several years after I started

running, so it's certainly not preventative. BTW I also have been

doing yoga 1-2 times a week for over ten years; this is great for

general wellbeing and stress-busting, but again, didn't prevent

fibroids from starting or growing.

Castor oil packs: my integrative doctor recommended this. It was

relaxing and felt good (who knows whether the oil has anything to do

with it, but the heat felt good). I tried it 3-4 days/week for 2-3

months. No affect on anything that I could tell, and I prefer yoga

for relaxation.

Diet: besides exercise, I think diet also makes a big difference in

overall wellbeing, and a lowfat diet is important for keeping

hormones balanced (human female fat cells manufacture estrogen, and

high fat foods like red meat and dairy, if they are not organic,

often contain hormones that were given to the animals). But my

fibroids were discovered years AFTER I'd already been eating a

lowfat, almost-vegetarian diet with lots of veggies and fruit.

So my suspicion is that these kinds of measures may help with

symptoms but are generally not enough to be protective against

whatever causes the fibroids in the first place -- perhaps a mix of

genetics (one of my sisters, my mom and grandmother all have had

fibroids) and exposure to toxic environmental estrogens etc.

There is a poll re. vitex and progesterone cream on the site right

now. Go to the group website and check out the pink column on the

left of the screen, where you can click " polls " . The numbers don't

look too promising for either one, though some women here say they

have helped.

Good luck to you,

Sunny

> Hi, I'm fairly new to this site and have been lurking for about a

> week. I'e had fibroids for a number of years and this year (turning

> 46) I was told by my gynecologist that they have grown and was

> recommended to have the embolization. She made it out that this or

a

> hysterectomy would be my only choices and I have held out. I am

> against surgery for several reasons even though my synptoms have

> gotten very uncomfortable heavy bleeding,cramping(during menses),

> pressure on bladder and it has been interfering with many aspects

of

> my lifestyle. After reading some of the posts from other here who

> have shared their experiences with surgeries I am still inclinedto

> find another way maybe just to manage the symptoms until menopause.

> Does anyone have any knowlegde or personal experience with natural

> alternatives such as changing diet vitamin therapy? I would really

> appreciate to hear from anyone about this who could shed some

light.

> I am commited to living with this condition unless the situation

> would become lifethreatening. Any feedback would be great!

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In answer to your question, I have been having problems for a few years. Last

year it got so bad I had to have transfusions. After that I was told only a

hystorectomy. I said no. After doing alot of research and talking to my PCP I

decided to ry vitamins. I take a multi vitamin, multi mineral, iron supplement,

zinc, vitamins A, E, B multi, B6, B12, C(with the iron to help absorb it), and I

don't eat red meat any time I have spotting or bleeding. This seems to be

working. My iron levels are now normal, I have very little problems with

bleeding. May be heavy for a day or two but it stops . My only complaint is I

still have lower back pain but I take Motrin for that which also helps with the

bleeding. I found a site that discussed vitamin therapy and diet for fibroids.

Thereason I don't eat the red meat is it produces bad prostaglandins that cause

more bleeding. So on those days I stick to fish and chicken.

I can't find the site but I do have a copy of the information.It says VIt. Ais

for red blood cell production, B6 produces benificial prostaglandins and stop

abnormal clotting, C has been shown to stop heavy bleeding in doses of 200mg or

higher, zinc helps the reproductive system and hormones,and red meat and dairy

producea bad type of prostaglandin that increases blood flow.The article says

that using these vitamins helps to control excess levels of estrogen which

increases growth of fibroids.

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My doctor also recommended hysterectomy (she does it)

or Embo. There were two doctors at her hospital

advertising heavily. The question is: do doctors get

referral fee?

Jacky

--- cyndiplatt cyndi248fl@...> wrote:

> Hi, I'm fairly new to this site and have been

> lurking for about a

> week. I'e had fibroids for a number of years and

> this year (turning

> 46) I was told by my gynecologist that they have

> grown and was

> recommended to have the embolization. She made it

> out that this or a

> hysterectomy would be my only choices and I have

> held out. I am

> against surgery for several reasons even though my

> synptoms have

> gotten very uncomfortable heavy

> bleeding,cramping(during menses),

> pressure on bladder and it has been interfering with

> many aspects of

> my lifestyle. After reading some of the posts from

> other here who

> have shared their experiences with surgeries I am

> still inclinedto

> find another way maybe just to manage the symptoms

> until menopause.

> Does anyone have any knowlegde or personal

> experience with natural

> alternatives such as changing diet vitamin therapy?

> I would really

> appreciate to hear from anyone about this who could

> shed some light.

> I am commited to living with this condition unless

> the situation

> would become lifethreatening. Any feedback would be

> great!

>

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