Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hospital admission forms most likely do NOT allow any kind of alterations on them at all. To alter this form is simply not an option in most cases. However, you can get a copy of this admitting form PRIOR to the day of admission and read it over carefully. If you have issues with any of the content, some hospitals allow your explanation of these issues and your wishes attached in a separate document submitted by you. However, this separate statement cannot negate the admitting form you sign -- it may only serve as an expression of your concerns. Surgical consent and anesthesiology consent are typically two additional forms signed AFTER you are admitted and sometime just prior to the procedure. These forms also serve as a verification that you are the right patient submitting to the procedure the entire team believes it is about to perform on you. Both of these forms should be signed BEFORE an IV is started and BEFORE any medication that would sedate you is administered. It may be possible for you to ask for and receive copies of these forms prior to the day of procedure. It is definitely worth asking about so there are no surprises thrown at you the day of the procedure. Both the surgical consent and anesthesiology consent forms are typically quite broad and also created and/or reviewed by legal staff. The breadth of these forms often indicate you are signing away all rights to whatever treatment the doc deems necessary for your appropriate medical care. These forms often have blank lines on them and you can indeed -- and SHOULD! -- write in that statement regarding your desire to have the procedure you've chosen and NOT a hysterectomy unless necessary to save your life. While you may also choose to discuss this with your doc and get it in your medical records prior to the procedure....please understand that that information (your entire medical chart) doesn't necessarily make it's way to the surgical and/or anesthesiology team. It is important to reiterate your wishes with " the team " while signing this consent form, as well as writing it onto the form. Why? Well, what if your doc has another emergency and gets called away? What if your doc has a heart attack in the middle of the procedure? What if your doc has something else in mind for you...and figures that once you're under it won't matter because you've signed the consent form for her/him to do whatever s/he deems necessary? What if your doc has a scheduled tee-off time and this myo is taking too long? (Hate to say it, but this did in fact happen to someone I know. One of the surgical nurses was so upset about it that she actually told the patient precisely what occurred during surgery so the patient could choose for herself whether to attempt legal action against the doc.) When I underwent myomectomy, the surgical time was delayed (and almost cancelled!) due to issues I had with UCLA's admitting form. It was NOT the form I had seen and received prior to the day of my procedure, as the hospital had just rewritten it with new provisions added. I was a mess that morning with trying to decide what to do and, in the end and after speaking to my doc, I wrote out a quick letter on blank paper expressing my disagreement with several items. I had to rewrite it 3 times because of wording that came off as negating the content of the admitting form. When I finally got down to the surgical team...the anesthesiologist had a resident attempt to put the IV line in. Only, he forgot to get me to sign the consent form first. That would have been a major fiasco and would have resulted in cancelling the surgery -- except for the fact that he was unsuccessful in getting the IV in and the anesthesiologist in charge had to be called down to do it instead. At that point a consent form was placed in front of me and we briefly reiterated a prior discussion we had had over the phone regarding my history and high tolerance to narcotic pain meds. After the IV was in...but prior to meds getting started...the surgical consent was given to me. At that point, the anesthesiologist nearly came a wee bit unglued. Why? Because it hadn't been signed prior to his putting in the IV line and he ALMOST started meds without their having this signature. With the team present -- but sans my doctor (which upset me terribly and still does to this day), I signed the surgical consent form only AFTER I wrote in my wishes for myomectomy only. I wrote it in -- and also verbalized it to the team of nurses/residents and my spouse who were all there with me. Politely and firmly. I didn't much care for the head surgical nurse though, or her attitude over my taking the time to write this in. Actually, she ticked me off royally. In the end, I knew I could trust my doc and that was the ONLY thing that allowed me to continue with the procedure. I don't have very many kind things to say about the UCLA Medical Center, how it uses residents AND interns -- and how they don't always identify themselves appropriately, the surgical nursing staff who has apparently assisted at primarily hysterectomies, and the short-handed, undertrained floor nurses who can't seem to listen to a single word you say and are spread too thin to respond in an appropriate manner to all the patients assigned to them. Also, that medical center wouldn't know what a vegetarian was if it hit them square in the face -- and the phrase " glucose intolerant " apparently escapes them to no end, as they repeatedly brought me Novartis juice drinks laden with vitamins, minerals, and a crap-load of sugar. ~86% sugar, according to the label. Criminy. Vegetable broth and unsweetened juice is truly not that hard of a concept, is it? Had it not been for Beth Tiner (from Sans Uteri) and her partner showing up to care for me after my surgery, I would not have eaten or drank much of anything during my time in the hospital. In fact, I highly recommend the hiring of a doula for the time one spends in the hospital, as Beth was truly my savior in recovering from my myomectomy and quite the gentle advocate in getting me the simplest of things -- that vegetable broth. A cup of tea. Some unsweetened juice. A wash cloth. Leg/foot message and assistance with getting up and walking around. She was also simply good company with a soothing influence that helped tremendously. If you can afford a post-op doula, it is absolutely worth considering when entering the hospital for surgery. It's truly too bad that nurses today are spread too thin and far too often can't do the job that would put them in the role of caring for patients in this type of appropriate manner. One final note...the laws on informed consent are different in every single state (and vary around the world, as well) in regard to " sterilization " . To truly know whether or not you are appropriately protected with how you sign a consent form most likely requires the oversight of an attorney from your state. Given this support group has members from every state and all over the world -- the responsibility for verification on how to apply this information in an appropriate legal manner per your own situation simply must be each member's individual responsibility. No single legal review of the information supplied here would be appropriate for ALL surgical situations or ALL regions of the U.S./world. Carla Dionne Executive Director National Uterine Fibroids Foundation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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