Guest guest Posted May 5, 2000 Report Share Posted May 5, 2000 Delaine, I completely agree with you. My ex was an engineer who was incredibly intelligent. He couldn't make it in the world either, and died last year. When I left my ex five years ago after our daughter died of Leukemia, I had no skills and was lost in the world. I began working as a cashier at a grocery store and worked there for a year before I went back to college and loved it! I went full time and worked part time as a cashier. I had all the plans to be an Administrative Assistant, and currently I am only two or three courses short of getting a degree. Two years ago, I met my current husband and moved away from the local college. I have not gone back, nor do I have any desire to. I would never be able to work full time now because of the progression of my RA. I am not any less intelligent because I do not have that degree in my hand. I have done DTP for my sister's company, written some brochures, and done websites. There is this stigma that some people have that if you don't have a degree you are not smart. That is bull. I agree that I think it is terrific that a goes back to college, for herself! I think it is great that she is able to back to get a degree in something she can work at that she loves. I think we would all agree that education is training for something, not making someone more intelligent! Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Delaine, Thanks for the compliment! Maybe you'll give me a job? My decision to go back was to help me get a job. I haven't worked for 16 years, and since having my knees replaced and finally being able to sleep, and having less pain with Enbrel, I think I can handle a part time job. The only job I feel I can physically handle is an office job. For all of the office jobs that I've looked into, they want people that know programs such as Office 2000 and Quickbooks. I've used Office 97, but only parts of it, and only for personal use. I am hoping that if I get certification from Microsoft, it will help me get a job. Sitting in a classroom for 4 hours will also give me an idea if I can really go back to work. On my good days I can conquer the world, on my bad days I lay here and read. I know many people that have done nothing with their degrees, and others that have done well without them. I don't care if I get a piece of paper, I just want to take computer courses. I am an absolute computer addict, and I enjoy helping others learn how to use it. This degree will qualify me as Computer System Support. For now I am only interested in getting out of this house and around people. I am alone all day, and it is starting to drive me bonkers! Delaine you can wander an blab all you want LOL! I've missed you and I'm glad you have more time to come blab with us! a ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim & Delaine Lowry <keywest@...> onelist < egroups> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: [ ] Education > a > > Congratulations on going back to college. But, you're already VERY > SMART > & it won't make you smarter. > > My ex-husband had 2 master degrees and spent 9 years in college. He > hasn't had a job since he left me 9 years ago. He is extremely > intelligent > but has trouble coping with the world. > > Jim, my wonderful husband, does not have a college degree. However, he > was making over $100,000 a year at MCI. Of course, he started working > at MCI years ago when a college degree wasn't required. > > Jim was working on getting his college degree and only has a little bit > of > paperwork to finish getting the degree. But, since MCI fired him and we > > started running the bed & breakfast, he doesn't have the desire to > finish it > anymore. > > I have 9 hours of my master degree and I have no more desire to get > anymore > education. > > I used my degree when I taught school...but I quit teaching 19 years ago > and > haven't needed the degree yet. > > So, I believe that education is great if you want to take courses for > yourself or > that a certain degree is necessary for your particular career goal. > > But, education doesn't make one smarter. > > I think everyone that is on this RA list is very intelligent. > > I'm probably babbling here...but, after living with my ex-husband that > was SO > smart, making straight A's all the time for years and seeing how messed > up he was, > I know that just because one takes a lot of courses in college and has a > lot of > degrees doesn't mean that that person will be a success in life or even > be a happier > person for having taken all the courses. > > My ex-husband won the Old Testament award in Seminary...he was > considered to > be the top student in the entire school for that year. He was accepted > into the PHD > program as a candidate for a PHD in Theology. They took only 3 students > the year > that he was accepted and were going to give him a full scholarship. He > decided that > he'd had enough school and couldn't handle the pressure of going to > school anymore. > > Jim has a wonderful friend that didn't get his PHD in Psychology because > he > couldn't finish the written exam. He was given 2 chances. His problem > - he > printed everything so nicely that he didn't have time to finish the > exam. He was > just too anal retentive. > > Jim's nephew is really brilliant and was an economics professor at the > age of 27. > He writes economic articles for the governor of Ohio. His father, > extremely > intelligent, could never hold a job...too many mental problems. > > I don't really know if any of you can understand what I'm trying to > explain > here. > > But, the most important thing that any of us can achieve is to be happy > with > ourselves and to realize that our intelligence and happiness is not > dependent > on a degree or passing a course, whatever. > > a, I always thought of you as extremely smart. And, if the courses > make > you happy, then that is wonderful, & marvelous. > > Hope you didn't mind my wandering and babbling. > > Delaine > > > > URL to change your membership options: /group/ > RA-support website: http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Our chat room: www.delphi.com/RheumatoidArth1/start > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 a, While others help you with Algebra, I will help you with Quickbooks - I am a pro with that program! It is a great software program. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Judy, Thanks! I don't think I'll be taking it. This course is all Microsoft. When I was looking at the employment ads, I saw Quickbooks mentioned and MS Office. They seem to be industry standard. Isn't quickbooks all accounting? ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy <rrjsen@...> < egroups> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Education > a, > > While others help you with Algebra, I will help you with Quickbooks - I am > a pro with that program! It is a great software program. > > Judy > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets > you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. > 1/3012/6/_/478567/_/957668211/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > URL to change your membership options: /group/ > RA-support website: http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Our chat room: www.delphi.com/RheumatoidArth1/start > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 Yes, and it is a really easy program, but one you need to figure out before you go to a job interview. If you are going to need it, let me know. At 11:16 PM 5/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Judy, >Thanks! I don't think I'll be taking it. This course is all Microsoft. >When I was looking at the employment ads, I saw >Quickbooks mentioned and MS Office. They seem to be industry standard. >Isn't quickbooks all accounting? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2000 Report Share Posted May 7, 2000 I agree with you, Delaine and Judy. A degree or a whole handful of them doesn't necessarily make you smarter. I do believe that formal education gives a person the opportunity to learn about things that you might not otherwise though and, in the best case, it affords one the chance to learn how to learn. I think if you choose to go to school and really try hard, it can only enhance your natural abilities. It's not for everyone though. And there is nothing wrong with that. There are many people who go to school with the wrong attitude and waste the chance, too (several of my physicians - OOPS! Did I say that?). I come from a family of educators, and education was always stressed as something very important. My family's view was one of balance though and the recognition that there are many types of intelligence and education. We all know people who have received numerous academic awards, but have no social intelligence or charm whatsoever. We also know people who never had any sort of formal education who are some of the most fascinating, wonderful people we ever met. In addition, how one attempts to maximize his or her potential is a very personal decision. School? Work? Which school? What job? How does a family enter into all of it? What is one's goal? Is money that important? Prestige? Helping others? Faith? The paths we choose are as individual as we are, and that's the way it should be. I say, just be the best you can be. Be true to yourself and develop your God-given gifts to maximize your potential. How you get there is your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 Hi , I am Bobbi Ryder, CEO at the National Center for Farmworker Health and our agency facilitates this egroup. There are several types of conferences and staff training opportunities that come up each year on a regular basis. The next and most geographically close is the Western Farmworker Stream Forum in Portland Oregon which takes place the first weekend in Feb, Fri, Sat and Sunday. It is hosted by the North West Regional Primary Care Association. The brochure is out and reservations and registration should be made now. You can contact them at their web site. I am responding to this message from home, early am as you can see and do not have the particular details in front of me. If you would contact McKay@..., egroup moderator she can fill you in immediately. There are also Eastern and Midwestern Stream Forums held annually in November and December and an Annual Farmworker Health Conference being held in April in Puerto Rico this year. The latter is hosted by the National Association of Community Health Centers located in DC, contact Ruiz at 202-6598008. There are also scholarships available for Clinicians thru the Migrant Clinician's Network located here in Austin. ALL of these conferences are designed to assist Migrant Health Centers with their staff training and leadership development needs and the audiences often include farmworker board members and lay health outreach workers as well as staff of all disciplines. At the Forums we have placed a strong emphasis on facilitating research relationships and occupational health issues, lay health and sharing models and experiences among health center staff. Hope you can join us. I will be at the Portland meeting if you attend and look forward to meeting you. You may also want to check out the NCFH Web site at www.ncfh.org. We have a comprehensive multi media resource center and two types of newsletters and a directory as well as a large variety of patient education materials available. Stay in touch... Bobbi Ryder Fieber wrote: Hello, my name is Fieber. I am new to the list. I work in a rural clinic in Livingston, CA I see a large population of migrant farm workers. I enjoy working with this population very much and I would like to know how I could obtain further training and education to help this group of workers. If anyone know of any seminars or conferences that would really help. If there is any opportunity to provide health education to the migrant farm workers oustside of my clinic, I would also like to be involved. Thanks in advance for your help. To Post a message, send it to: eGroups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribeeGroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 --great to see you contacting this listserv- I am a P.A. as well and have worked for a migrant and comunity health center here in Hood River, Oregon for 16 years and also worked at Sea-Mar in Seattle for about a year(these represent very different ends ot the spectrum) one rural and one big city but serving a very similar population. I applaud your efforts to get oriented. If you come to the migrant stream conference and I hope you will, please look me up. Both Bobbi and Alice are abosolutely right they are a great way to meet other clinicians,share experieinces, and attend interesting and appropriate continuing education. La Clinica del Carino ----- Original Message ----- From: Fieber egroups Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Education Bobbi thanks so much for all this information it will really help. I am a Physician Assistant and have worker for two years in my rural clinic. My desire is to educate myself as much as possible to better help the patients I see. Thank You again. Ryder wrote: Hi , I am Bobbi Ryder, CEO at the National Center for Farmworker Health and our agency facilitates this egroup. There are several types of conferences and staff training opportunities that come up each year on a regular basis. The next and most geographically close is the Western Farmworker Stream Forum in Portland Oregon which takes place the first weekend in Feb, Fri, Sat and Sunday. It is hosted by the North West Regional Primary Care Association. The brochure is out and reservations and registration should be made now. You can contact them at their web site. I am responding to this message from home, early am as you can see and do not have the particular details in front of me. If you would contact McKay@..., egroup moderator she can fill you in immediately. There are also Eastern and Midwestern Stream Forums held annually in November and December and an Annual Farmworker Health Conference being held in April in Puerto Rico this year. The latter is hosted by the National Association of Community Health Centers located in DC, contact Ruiz at 202-6598008. There are also scholarships available for Clinicians thru the Migrant Clinician's Network located here in Austin. ALL of these conferences are designed to assist Migrant Health Centers with their staff training and leadership development needs and the audiences often include farmworker board members and lay health outreach workers as well as staff of all disciplines. At the Forums we have placed a strong emphasis on facilitating research relationships and occupational health issues, lay health and sharing models and experiences among health center staff. Hope you can join us. I will be at the Portland meeting if you attend and look forward to meeting you. You may also want to check out the NCFH Web site at www.ncfh.org. We have a comprehensive multi media resource center and two types of newsletters and a directory as well as a large variety of patient education materials available. Stay in touch... Bobbi Ryder Fieber wrote: Hello, my name is Fieber. I am new to the list. I work in a rural clinic in Livingston, CA I see a large population of migrant farm workers. I enjoy working with this population very much and I would like to know how I could obtain further training and education to help this group of workers. If anyone know of any seminars or conferences that would really help. If there is any opportunity to provide health education to the migrant farm workers oustside of my clinic, I would also like to be involved. Thanks in advance for your help. To Post a message, send it to: eGroups To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribeeGroups To Post a message, send it to: eGroupsTo Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribeeGroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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