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Thanks Bea for the explanation---

It makes sense if I think about it. Learn something new every day!

This perhaps explains why many of us like to nap after Thanksgiving dinner

pig-out!

Some of that's probably the triptophan (sp?) in the turkey, but your reason

could be a large part of it.

I'm going to file away your dialog for future reference.

, T2, Diagnosed 4/98, with fasting bg 350mg/dl & HbA1c 15.5%

controlling until last month with LC-D & E

Past Average Fasting bg 105mg/dl, Last HbA1c 6.0%

Historical HbA1c 5.6%-6.0%

Now experimenting with Metformin & Glyburide to get HbA1c neareer 5.0%

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For many years I persisted in demanding answers as to why I kept dosing off

driving back from attending a meeting or somesuch in the nearest city. It

seemed to me that there was a common pattern. Usually we had been served

finger foods, or " posh " yummy sandwiches - free. So I ate enough to save

cooking or buying a meal - before or after.

On other occasions I ate a big breakfast - e.g. cereal, egg, toast before a

3 hour drive. When I did this I had to stop frequently, and drank several

cups of coffee. Also when I ate out with friends I fell asleep or nodded

off during the evening. Embarrassed, I would depart for home. This was OK if

I did not have far to drive but not if it was over say 20 minutes.

Eventually in March 2001 - after many years of these incidents - I was

diagnosed with DM T2. My A1c at the time

was 13.4 - which in the driving and diabetes literature is not considered

high. (Over 20 or 25 - is c

ommon for research.)

It is a serious problem. I've written lots about driver fatigue, and

attended conferences, presented submissions on inattention and fatigue in

transportation and find it very frustrating that the focus re diabetes is

only on the problem of lows. Truck drivers of provide plenty data - they

eat lots of fries, pastry, bread etc - and if asked will say they get sleepy

about 90 -120 minutes after eating a big meal. Many also have sleep apnea

which gets treated - but rarely are they tested for diabetes -only if other

symptoms stand out (which they don't always as in my case)

When I give talks I often ask the audience if anyone has dosed off after a

heavy meal, then I ask if they have ever felt they were becoming drowsy when

driving, etc etc. Often I find people who could be at risk driving after a

heavy meal.

Bea

wrote

>

> You're correct Bea, but typically that would have been after being high

> for

> a relatively long-time, as I understand it. But then, I may not

> " understand

> it " !

>

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>

>>>> Highs could potentially kill you (or someone else) on the road. You

>>>> can

> become very very sleepy with a high.

> Bea <<<

>

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> roger wrote

>

>> They worry about a " low " because it can kill you " on their watch " .

>> They aren't concerned about highs because they kill you slowly & you'll

>> be

>> somewhere else or being cared-for by someone else when that happens!!!

>> Oops " cynical time of morning " ! :<)

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