Re: OT: mothers with Chronic Fatigue or FMS?

[Guest guest]

Hi

In my case I do not know if I have " classic chronic fatigue "

but I think I have candidiasis

neither is officially diagnosed

I would CRRAAVE sugar, chocolates, carbs

eat till I hit the spot

(a whole box of popsicles, chocolates by myself, etc)

and crash/foul mood/depressed/totally tired/achy breaky

in the evenings

and sense of impeding doom

that was gone

when I went on the GFCF, no refined sugar diet

(coz I was nursing child #2)

and I felt so healthy, energetic like I was 18 again

(I am 33)

no more fogginess, mood swings, etc

and eventually, I lost 40 lbs, and looked sexy and felt

very efficient and great..

no more perpetual runny/itchy nose, sore throat, seasonal eczemas,

suddenly realized, not sick ever, since the diet

but when I eat processed sugar, I feel achy and tired and depress

within the hour

so is this " chronic fatigue " brought on by candidiasis/sugars/wheat-

milk intolerance?

not sure if this is the question you asked

but I feel I may have passed on my candida to my son

(and his heavy antibiotic use during my GBS+ childbirth

and vaccination minutes after childbirth may contribute to his

regressive autism (fully vaccinated child)

I am curious to see what others answers may be

Jzin Teng

California

[Guest guest]

I too have not been diagnosed with anything, but very suspicious

that something is going on. My legs hurt so badly last night I

walked like I was crippled (I'm only 30). My husband wants me to go

to the doctor, but I'm worried they'll just laugh at me when I say

my legs hurt all the time and I have bad gas. I exercise daily, but

it gets worse, not better. I eat healthily, but that hasn't helped

either.

I'm going to start taking away dairy and cutting back on sugar, see

what that does, and expand it if necessary. I don't think I could

get a doc to treat me for yeast, though I think I really need it.

I do believe also that I passed something along to my son that

predisposed him to autism. He had a couple ear

infections/antibiotics, but was addicted to milk once we started

that and became terribly anemic. His delays began after his MMR

vaccine. I recently discovered that though he was vaccinated in

2000/2001, and though his doc assured me his shots had no

thimerasol, all his vaccine lots were from before thimerasol was

ordered out of the shots. Makes me ill.

Thanks!

> Hi

>

> In my case I do not know if I have " classic chronic fatigue "

> but I think I have candidiasis

> neither is officially diagnosed

> I would CRRAAVE sugar, chocolates, carbs

> eat till I hit the spot

> (a whole box of popsicles, chocolates by myself, etc)

> and crash/foul mood/depressed/totally tired/achy breaky

> in the evenings

> and sense of impeding doom

>

> that was gone

> when I went on the GFCF, no refined sugar diet

> (coz I was nursing child #2)

> and I felt so healthy, energetic like I was 18 again

> (I am 33)

> no more fogginess, mood swings, etc

> and eventually, I lost 40 lbs, and looked sexy and felt

> very efficient and great..

> no more perpetual runny/itchy nose, sore throat, seasonal eczemas,

> suddenly realized, not sick ever, since the diet

> but when I eat processed sugar, I feel achy and tired and depress

> within the hour

> so is this " chronic fatigue " brought on by

candidiasis/sugars/wheat-

> milk intolerance?

>

> not sure if this is the question you asked

> but I feel I may have passed on my candida to my son

> (and his heavy antibiotic use during my GBS+ childbirth

> and vaccination minutes after childbirth may contribute to his

> regressive autism (fully vaccinated child)

>

> I am curious to see what others answers may be

>

> Jzin Teng

> California

[Guest guest]

My husband has a fibromyalgia dx.

His Organic Acid Test showed similar abnormalities to our 23 y.o.

autistic son. Both had indication of yeast overgrowth, vitamin

deficiencies, low seratonin and impaired detox system.

We are fighting yeast with GSE and probiotics. They are taking many

supplements.

Both take Paxil and my husband takes Skelaxin as needed.

> Hi,

>

> I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

> children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done to

> remedy the symptoms?

>

> The best way to explain my symptoms is that if you've read Karyn

> Seroussi's book, you'll have read my story. My biggest complaints

> are morning stiffness, joint pain following any physical exertion,

> and constipation. I also have headaches, back pain, and fatigue.

>

> If anyone can share a similar story and how you've handled it, I

> would appreciate it. Please email me off-list if you'd like.

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

> I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

> children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done to

> remedy the symptoms?

Chronic fatigue here. Enzymes, especially No-Fenol, have been very

helpful. I still need to avoid certain foods [enzymes don't address

all the food-related fatigue symptoms], but overall much better.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think there is HUGE connection with this. I think the thyroid and adrenal

connection is key. I am making huge gains by addressing this. Get Peatfields

book, and dr lowe's below. Check out the THYROID group and NATURALTHYOID

HORMONE groups on . There are many women there with fibro. Many are

self treating too. Doctors are NOT good at figuring this out, and give

anti-depressants instead of thyroid. It is a HUGE SCANDAL. You will feel

just as outraged that this is going on, as you do about vaccination.

I was incapacitated with fibro after getting some fillings removed. I

happened immediately, so was very easy to see. The mercury really messes

with the thyroid. I was already taking Armour thyroid, but not enough. I

have increased it, added T3 and adreanal support.

I had the best day yesterday that I have had in the past year. I am sleeping

better; I can think clearly, had energy all day...cleaned the house, cleaned

the yard. Went to the store,...I had continuous energy all day. I haven't

done any of those things in 9 months....I felt like myself. No pains all

over my body...I could go on an on, it was like I was a different person.

Before, I was napping every afternoon, not sleeping at night, every step on

the floor was painful, you know how it is.... But I am taking almost 3 times

the thyroid I was taking before, and you have to work up slowly. It is a

miracle I think, but there is a lot to learn about it.

I have had my son's thyroid tested to. He is hypo. He is beginning on

thyroid, and doing so great. I don't know if the mercury messes up the

thyroid first, or that because the thyroid doesn't work, you accumulate the

mercury that otherwise would be excreted. I am sure this is all connected,

and I am going to figure it all out.

http://www.drlowe.com/

http://www.baronsdownpublishing.com/

http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

I have many more links saved and if you are interested I will try and send

them along.

nne

[ ] OT: mothers with Chronic Fatigue or FMS?

Hi,

I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done to

remedy the symptoms?

The best way to explain my symptoms is that if you've read Karyn

Seroussi's book, you'll have read my story. My biggest complaints

are morning stiffness, joint pain following any physical exertion,

and constipation. I also have headaches, back pain, and fatigue.

If anyone can share a similar story and how you've handled it, I

would appreciate it. Please email me off-list if you'd like.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Mercury fillings will cause chronic fatigue.

[Guest guest]

It was only after reading other mothers' stories on here almost three

years ago that I decided to try the enzymes for my fibromyalgia. I

was very skeptical about the application of enzymes for fibro, but

with pep and zyme consistently, I had at least 90% reduction in the

soreness - to say 98% might even be appropriate. It helped my

rheumatoid arthritis quite a bit, too, but I would still sometimes

have a bad day with pain in hips and knees until I added fish oil for

the omega-3 fatty acids. Actually, it's krill oil, but I believe any

good quality omega three fish oil would be helpful.

I had been to numerous specialists and none had recommended any of

these applications, learned it all here!

> Hi,

>

> I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

> children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done to

> remedy the symptoms?

>

> The best way to explain my symptoms is that if you've read Karyn

> Seroussi's book, you'll have read my story. My biggest complaints

> are morning stiffness, joint pain following any physical exertion,

> and constipation. I also have headaches, back pain, and fatigue.

>

> If anyone can share a similar story and how you've handled it, I

> would appreciate it. Please email me off-list if you'd like.

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Well add me to the list! I got diagnosis this week of CFS and I

think it is mercury induced. I am getting amalgams removed now but

we have had trouble with one of them. My doctor suspected thyroid

problems and just tested for that but that test is not back...I told

him I felt there were metals issues involved and remarkably, he was

open to learning about that.

Just thought I'd chime in.

> Hi ,

> I think there is HUGE connection with this. I think the thyroid

and adrenal

> connection is key. I am making huge gains by addressing this. Get

Peatfields

> book, and dr lowe's below. Check out the THYROID group and

NATURALTHYOID

> HORMONE groups on . There are many women there with fibro.

Many are

> self treating too. Doctors are NOT good at figuring this out, and

give

> anti-depressants instead of thyroid. It is a HUGE SCANDAL. You

will feel

> just as outraged that this is going on, as you do about

vaccination.

>

> I was incapacitated with fibro after getting some fillings

removed. I

> happened immediately, so was very easy to see. The mercury really

messes

> with the thyroid. I was already taking Armour thyroid, but not

enough. I

> have increased it, added T3 and adreanal support.

>

> I had the best day yesterday that I have had in the past year. I

am sleeping

> better; I can think clearly, had energy all day...cleaned the

house, cleaned

> the yard. Went to the store,...I had continuous energy all day. I

haven't

> done any of those things in 9 months....I felt like myself. No

pains all

> over my body...I could go on an on, it was like I was a different

person.

> Before, I was napping every afternoon, not sleeping at night,

every step on

> the floor was painful, you know how it is.... But I am taking

almost 3 times

> the thyroid I was taking before, and you have to work up slowly.

It is a

> miracle I think, but there is a lot to learn about it.

>

> I have had my son's thyroid tested to. He is hypo. He is beginning

on

> thyroid, and doing so great. I don't know if the mercury messes up

the

> thyroid first, or that because the thyroid doesn't work, you

accumulate the

> mercury that otherwise would be excreted. I am sure this is all

connected,

> and I am going to figure it all out.

>

> http://www.drlowe.com/

>

> http://www.baronsdownpublishing.com/

>

>

> http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

>

>

> I have many more links saved and if you are interested I will try

and send

> them along.

>

> nne

>

>

>

> [ ] OT: mothers with Chronic Fatigue or FMS?

>

> Hi,

>

> I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

> children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done to

> remedy the symptoms?

>

> The best way to explain my symptoms is that if you've read Karyn

> Seroussi's book, you'll have read my story. My biggest complaints

> are morning stiffness, joint pain following any physical exertion,

> and constipation. I also have headaches, back pain, and fatigue.

>

> If anyone can share a similar story and how you've handled it, I

> would appreciate it. Please email me off-list if you'd like.

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

, you should get that leg looked at. You could have a blood clot and that

is very dangerous. Don't put that off.

[ ] Re: OT: mothers with Chronic Fatigue or FMS?

I too have not been diagnosed with anything, but very suspicious

that something is going on. My legs hurt so badly last night I

walked like I was crippled (I'm only 30). My husband wants me to go

to the doctor, but I'm worried they'll just laugh at me when I say

my legs hurt all the time and I have bad gas. I exercise daily, but

it gets worse, not better. I eat healthily, but that hasn't helped

either.

I'm going to start taking away dairy and cutting back on sugar, see

what that does, and expand it if necessary. I don't think I could

get a doc to treat me for yeast, though I think I really need it.

I do believe also that I passed something along to my son that

predisposed him to autism. He had a couple ear

infections/antibiotics, but was addicted to milk once we started

that and became terribly anemic. His delays began after his MMR

vaccine. I recently discovered that though he was vaccinated in

2000/2001, and though his doc assured me his shots had no

thimerasol, all his vaccine lots were from before thimerasol was

ordered out of the shots. Makes me ill.

Thanks!

> Hi

>

> In my case I do not know if I have " classic chronic fatigue "

> but I think I have candidiasis

> neither is officially diagnosed

> I would CRRAAVE sugar, chocolates, carbs

> eat till I hit the spot

> (a whole box of popsicles, chocolates by myself, etc)

> and crash/foul mood/depressed/totally tired/achy breaky

> in the evenings

> and sense of impeding doom

>

> that was gone

> when I went on the GFCF, no refined sugar diet

> (coz I was nursing child #2)

> and I felt so healthy, energetic like I was 18 again

> (I am 33)

> no more fogginess, mood swings, etc

> and eventually, I lost 40 lbs, and looked sexy and felt

> very efficient and great..

> no more perpetual runny/itchy nose, sore throat, seasonal eczemas,

> suddenly realized, not sick ever, since the diet

> but when I eat processed sugar, I feel achy and tired and depress

> within the hour

> so is this " chronic fatigue " brought on by

candidiasis/sugars/wheat-

> milk intolerance?

>

> not sure if this is the question you asked

> but I feel I may have passed on my candida to my son

> (and his heavy antibiotic use during my GBS+ childbirth

> and vaccination minutes after childbirth may contribute to his

> regressive autism (fully vaccinated child)

>

> I am curious to see what others answers may be

>

> Jzin Teng

> California

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

I had been dx'd by a MD with fibro. This was within 6 months of

receiving a Flu shot followed 3 months later with a Tetnus booster.

I wont be having any more.

Michele

> > Hi ,

> > I think there is HUGE connection with this. I think the thyroid

> and adrenal

> > connection is key. I am making huge gains by addressing this. Get

> Peatfields

> > book, and dr lowe's below. Check out the THYROID group and

> NATURALTHYOID

> > HORMONE groups on . There are many women there with fibro.

> Many are

> > self treating too. Doctors are NOT good at figuring this out, and

> give

> > anti-depressants instead of thyroid. It is a HUGE SCANDAL. You

> will feel

> > just as outraged that this is going on, as you do about

> vaccination.

> >

> > I was incapacitated with fibro after getting some fillings

> removed. I

> > happened immediately, so was very easy to see. The mercury

really

> messes

> > with the thyroid. I was already taking Armour thyroid, but not

> enough. I

> > have increased it, added T3 and adreanal support.

> >

> > I had the best day yesterday that I have had in the past year. I

> am sleeping

> > better; I can think clearly, had energy all day...cleaned the

> house, cleaned

> > the yard. Went to the store,...I had continuous energy all day.

I

> haven't

> > done any of those things in 9 months....I felt like myself. No

> pains all

> > over my body...I could go on an on, it was like I was a different

> person.

> > Before, I was napping every afternoon, not sleeping at night,

> every step on

> > the floor was painful, you know how it is.... But I am taking

> almost 3 times

> > the thyroid I was taking before, and you have to work up slowly.

> It is a

> > miracle I think, but there is a lot to learn about it.

> >

> > I have had my son's thyroid tested to. He is hypo. He is

beginning

> on

> > thyroid, and doing so great. I don't know if the mercury messes

up

> the

> > thyroid first, or that because the thyroid doesn't work, you

> accumulate the

> > mercury that otherwise would be excreted. I am sure this is all

> connected,

> > and I am going to figure it all out.

> >

> > http://www.drlowe.com/

> >

> > http://www.baronsdownpublishing.com/

> >

> >

> > http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

> >

> >

> > I have many more links saved and if you are interested I will try

> and send

> > them along.

> >

> > nne

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] OT: mothers with Chronic Fatigue or FMS?

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I would like to know if there are any other mothers of autistic

> > children who have chronic fatigue or FMS and what you have done

to

> > remedy the symptoms?

> >

> > The best way to explain my symptoms is that if you've read Karyn

> > Seroussi's book, you'll have read my story. My biggest

complaints

> > are morning stiffness, joint pain following any physical

exertion,

> > and constipation. I also have headaches, back pain, and fatigue.

> >

> > If anyone can share a similar story and how you've handled it, I

> > would appreciate it. Please email me off-list if you'd like.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Properly done colonics usually makes major improvement in such

conditions, along with getting rid of mercury sources. There is an accumulation

of plaque with toxic residues in the intestines, which causes leaky gut,

toxicity, allergic reactions, etc. and which needs to be cleaned out and

replaced by things that promote intestinal healing and probiotics. Properly

done colonics do these things.

For documentation of mercury's connection to CFS, FMS see

www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/cfsfm.html

Chelation using BioCleanse(IonCleanse) usually alleviates such conditions also.

But the intestinal issues also need to be dealt with where relevant, which is

usually the case. There is also a high incidence of parasites in such cases,

and parasite cleanses such as from Health Food Store or Hulda

(www..net) are also often useful.

Bernie