Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 It'll be interesting to see what they come up with on the " sulf " issue. Sulf-drugs have been around a long time, they work & they are cheap. As prescribed, they do cause possible hypo's, but I'm finding out that MDSPD dosing (Multiple Daily Small Pill Doses) that they do work satisfactorily. But then, what Dr has the time or inclination to develop such a plan for their patients. What'ya bet they'll decide to get rid of them in favor of one of the " newer " , " more expensive " meds that don't have a long safety record! I get " antsey " about any of the new wonder drugs since the " fox is guarding the henhouse " as far as FDA approval is concerned! Oops my cynicism is creeping out of it's hidey-hole! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> This is the proposed agenda for a congress on diabetes in Berlin next fall. I don't think any of us are going to go, but I find some of the topics interesting, for example, " should the use of sulf be discontinued. " <<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 > And their " goal " will be to encourage patients > to use diet, exercise and non-prescription drugs? Well, somebody has to pay for it all and the sponsors' primary interest has to be in selling stuff! But instead of going all the way to Berlin to pay $720 to hear lectures it might be worth taking in those that are available free on the Internet first. For example, a German company (Diabetes Research Institute, Munich) has a series of diabetes lectures in English at www.diabetes-symposium.org. The lectures consist of an automatic slide show and the voice of the lecturer. You will need to have a sound card in your computer and loudspeakers connected to hear the lectures and a cheap Internet connection because the complete set will take HOURS to get through! That is still better than trying to find a place to park your hire car in Berlin. Symposia -------- There are lectures from: - the Annual Meeting of the EASD* in Athens, Greece, on September 11th, 2005 (21 lectures), - two seminars in Berlin, Germany, on April 13th, 2005 and May 5th, 2005 (4 lectures each), - the Annual Meeting of the EASD* in Munich, German, on September 4th & 5th, 2004 (34 lectures) at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=events * EASD = European Association for the Study of Diabetes Other lectures (58 total): ------------------------- at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=topics 1. Cardiovascular disease (4 lectures) 2. Microvascular complications (7 lectures) 3. Blood glucose monitoring (6 lectures) 4. Continuous glucose monitoring (16 lectures) 5. Oral antidiabetic agents (1 lecture) 6. Hypertension (4 lectures) 7. Diabetic foot (4 lectures) 8. Epidemiology and pathophysiology of Type 2 diabetes (6 lectures) 9. Incretins, incretin mimetics ans DPP-4 inhibitors (10 lectures) Named lecturers (57 total): -------------------------- Another series of lectures by big names in the business at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=authors Archived lectures (22 total): ---------------------------- A set of miscellaneous archived lectures at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=archive 1. Cardiovascular disease (4 lectures) 2. Microvascular complications (2 lectures) 3. Insulin pump therapy (3 lectures) 4. Continuous glucose monitoring (13 lectures) I have been through a few of them and it is clear that these too are primarily intended for professional health care personnel, for example, for the lecture on the FreeStyle Navigator continuous glucose monitor, you are expected to know what " bidentate polymetric mediators " are and in another they assume that you already know what a " longitudinal cohort analysis " is all about. It will not be any different in Berlin in September, I don't suppose! Good luck T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 > And their " goal " will be to encourage patients > to use diet, exercise and non-prescription drugs? Well, somebody has to pay for it all and the sponsors' primary interest has to be in selling stuff! But instead of going all the way to Berlin to pay $720 to hear lectures it might be worth taking in those that are available free on the Internet first. For example, a German company (Diabetes Research Institute, Munich) has a series of diabetes lectures in English at www.diabetes-symposium.org. The lectures consist of an automatic slide show and the voice of the lecturer. You will need to have a sound card in your computer and loudspeakers connected to hear the lectures and a cheap Internet connection because the complete set will take HOURS to get through! That is still better than trying to find a place to park your hire car in Berlin. Symposia -------- There are lectures from: - the Annual Meeting of the EASD* in Athens, Greece, on September 11th, 2005 (21 lectures), - two seminars in Berlin, Germany, on April 13th, 2005 and May 5th, 2005 (4 lectures each), - the Annual Meeting of the EASD* in Munich, German, on September 4th & 5th, 2004 (34 lectures) at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=events * EASD = European Association for the Study of Diabetes Other lectures (58 total): ------------------------- at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=topics 1. Cardiovascular disease (4 lectures) 2. Microvascular complications (7 lectures) 3. Blood glucose monitoring (6 lectures) 4. Continuous glucose monitoring (16 lectures) 5. Oral antidiabetic agents (1 lecture) 6. Hypertension (4 lectures) 7. Diabetic foot (4 lectures) 8. Epidemiology and pathophysiology of Type 2 diabetes (6 lectures) 9. Incretins, incretin mimetics ans DPP-4 inhibitors (10 lectures) Named lecturers (57 total): -------------------------- Another series of lectures by big names in the business at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=authors Archived lectures (22 total): ---------------------------- A set of miscellaneous archived lectures at: http://www.diabetes-symposium.org/index.php?menu=archive 1. Cardiovascular disease (4 lectures) 2. Microvascular complications (2 lectures) 3. Insulin pump therapy (3 lectures) 4. Continuous glucose monitoring (13 lectures) I have been through a few of them and it is clear that these too are primarily intended for professional health care personnel, for example, for the lecture on the FreeStyle Navigator continuous glucose monitor, you are expected to know what " bidentate polymetric mediators " are and in another they assume that you already know what a " longitudinal cohort analysis " is all about. It will not be any different in Berlin in September, I don't suppose! Good luck T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 > Maybe this conference will actually address > the reality of diabetes. Highly unlikely, Carol. There are three realities - the health care industry's reality (clouded by special interest), the patient's reality (apathetic and totally disorganized) and the medical scientists' reality (changes depending on the source of funding). T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 > They have a section on the Brain & DM - so > I'm tempted to write a paper - Web site for the conference is: http://www.codhy.com/index.asp Deadline for submitting Abstracts is June 15th, 2006 > Of course I do have to get a wriggle on and > sell my house - and downsize - to have the funds, > but going to a couple of professional conferences > this year was always part of my plan for 2006. How about getting somebody or some organization to fund you? It is usually more fun spending other people's money rather than your own! There is an early-registration rate of EUR 385 (about US$ 462) for nurses, dietitians and psychiatrists up to June 14th, 2005. T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 > I've been keeping up with other conference > papers - and read all the pages on the CODHy > conference website the other day so I'm looking > at all the possibilities. There is probably at least one international diabetes conference every week somewhere in the world, Bea, so why this particular one? In the scientific program for the Berlin conference in October, I miss any trace of patient-orientierung. The entire conference appears to be about treatment and methods and strategies but without any particular regard for the patient's point of view, it could just as well be a conference of veterinarians! They want us to have no more say in the treatment of OUR disease than do cats, dogs and horses! It would only be a few hours train ride for me, maybe I could get a few sympathizers together and have a little " peaceful " demo outside the hall, burn tires in the street, smash a few shop windows, etc., just like the globalization protesters? How about a parade of diabetes amputees in their invalid chairs blocking all traffic? It is much the same principle - far-reaching decisions are being taken without the active participation of those most affected! I would like to go to a conference in which patients are adequately represented and are given an opportunity to express themselves. Regards T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 > There is a Diabetes Congress in Cape Town, SA > in December. Thanks for the info, a, Cape Town is a nicer place than Berlin, at least the surroundings are nice - I was there 40 years ago and would like to see it again. The conference set-up sounds a lot better from the patient's point of view. I see that US patients will be represented there by the ADA. T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 > ...and what's up with the 'must be under 40'?? That is only if you want them to pay your fare there and back. They are apparently trying to encourage students to participate. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 > Well, the " early registration " date of > June 14, 2005 is long gone, , so I > can only assume that your finger slipped Yes, sorry about that - I must be getting diabetic finger. T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 > Are you implying we have no regard for > our patient's point of view. The only difference between a physician and a veterinarian is the clientele. If a physician does not make the most of the theoretically better communication with human patients then he/she might just as well be treating horses. In my modest opinion, a medical conference (designed to send clinicians back to their clients familiar with the latest trends in medical controversy) that implicitely excludes patients' representatives is not exactly displaying a high regard for the patient's point of view. Just my controversial opinion! T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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