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At 05:06 PM 11/15/05, Alan wrote:

>Hi All

>

>We've had quite a few new arrivals lately. Some are new to type 2,

>some are experienced. Welcome to you all.

>

>As you've seen, we don't all agree here. However, we all hope to help

>you as best we can to gain control of this thing. You will have to

>decide for yourself what advice makes sense to you and is applicable

>to you, and what doesn't.

oh, is THIS the message you thought I'd been replying to and didn't read?

You were right...I hadn't read it yet. Just got to it. Seems pretty much

the same as your usual one save that in this you *did* acknowledge that we

all don't agree on the best way to do things.

There's been a pretty standard " newly diagnosed " letter that's been going

out for years from this list, and it offers resources in both books to read

and websites to visit but doesn't go into how folks should handle their

testing and BG's. Your letter seems like too much information. It almost

seems like you're racing to be " the one " who gets out information to a new

member the fastest. Maybe, in your own letter you should suggest that there

many ways to get BG's under control and then wait for someone to indicate

interest before you go into all of the " how-to-do-it-my-way " details? Just

a thought. This isn't a competition, after all. Or shouldn't be, IMO.

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Lee here:

Thanks Alan...this will help answer some of my previous questions.

Must be patient and take my time.

I will print this out and read it again to remind myself to keep

testing and experimenting.

>

> Hi All

>

> We've had quite a few new arrivals lately. Some are new to type 2,

> some are experienced. Welcome to you all.

>

> As you've seen, we don't all agree here. However, we all hope to

help

> you as best we can to gain control of this thing. You will have to

> decide for yourself what advice makes sense to you and is

applicable

> to you, and what doesn't.

>

> The best practical self-help advice I received from anywhere after

> diagnosis came from a lady named . It dramatically

improved my

> control of my diabetes when used in conjunction with a regular

daily

> exercise routine. I've since chatted with her, and received

permission

> to repeat that advice in any forum I wish to.

>

> I strongly recommend that you read it a couple of times, and put it

> into practice. I've copied it below but you can also find it on a

few

> web-sites, this is a link to one of them:

> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

>

> 's advice to the newly diagnosed, also known as the " test,

> test, test " advice:

>

> " Sounds like you're planning a move to take control of your

> diabetes... good for you.

>

> There is so much to absorb... you don't have to rush into anything.

> Begin by using your best weapon in this war, your meter. You won't

> keel over today, you have time to experiment, test, learn, test and

> figure out just how your body and this disease are getting along.

The

> most important thing you can do to learn about yourself and

diabetes

> is test, test, test.

>

> The single biggest question a diabetic has to answer is: What do I

eat?

>

> Unfortunately, the answer is pretty confusing. What confounds us

all

> is the fact that different diabetics can get great results on

wildly

> different food plans. Some of us here achieve great blood glucose

> control eating a high complex carbohydrate diet. Others find that

> anything over 75 - 100g of carbs a day is too much. Still others

are

> somewhere in between.

>

> At the beginning all of us felt frustrated. We wanted to be handed

THE

> way to eat, to ensure our continued health. But we all learned

that

> there is no one way. Each of us had to find our own path, using the

> experience of those that went before, but still having to discover

for

> ourselves how OUR bodies and this disease were coexisting. Ask

> questions, but remember each of us discovered on our own what works

> best for us. You can use our experiences as jumping off points, but

> eventually you'll work up a successful plan that is yours alone.

>

> What you are looking to discover is how different foods affect

you. As

> I'm sure you've read, carbohydrates (sugars, wheat, rice... the

things

> our Grandmas called " starches " ) raise blood sugars the most

rapidly.

> Protein and fat do raise them, but not as high and much more

slowly...

> so if you're a T2, generally the insulin your body still makes may

> take care of the rise.

>

> You might want to try some experiments.

>

> First: Eat whatever you've been currently eating... but write it

all

> down.

>

> Test yourself at the following times:

>

> Upon waking (fasting)

>

> 1 hour after each meal

>

> 2 hours after each meal

>

> At bedtime

>

> That means 8 x each day. What you will discover by this is how

long

> after a meal your highest reading comes... and how fast you return

to

> " normal " . Also, you may see that a meal that included bread,

fruit or

> other carbs gives you a higher reading.

>

> Then for the next few days, try to curb your carbs. Eliminate

breads,

> cereals, rice, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, fruit...

get

> all your carbs from veggies. Test at the same schedule above.

>

> If you try this for a few days, you may find some pretty good

> readings. It's worth a few days to discover. Eventually you can

> slowly add back carbs until you see them affecting your meter. The

> thing about this disease... though we share much in common and we

need

> to follow certain guidelines... in the end, each of our bodies

dictate

> our treatment and our success.

>

> The closer we get to non-diabetic numbers, the greater chance we

have

> of avoiding horrible complications. The key here is AIM... I know

> that everyone is at a different point in their disease... and it is

> progressive. But, if we aim for the best numbers and do our best,

we

> give ourselves the best shot at heath we've got. That's all we can

do.

>

> Here's my opinion on what numbers to aim for, they are non-diabetic

> numbers.

>

> FBG....................under 110

>

> One hour after meals...under 140

>

> Two hours after meals..under 120

>

> or for those in the mmol parts of the world:

>

> Fasting..................under 6

>

> One hour after meals.....under 8

>

> Two hours after meals...under 6.5

>

> Recent studies have indicated that the most important numbers are

your

> " after meal " numbers. They may be the most indicative of future

> complications, especially heart problems.

>

> Listen to your doctor, but you are the leader of your diabetic care

> team. While his /her advice is learned, it is not absolute. You

> will end up knowing much more about your body and how it's handling

> diabetes than your doctor will. Your meter is your best weapon.

>

> Just remember, we're not in a race or a competition with anyone but

> ourselves... Play around with your food plan... TEST TEST TEST.

Learn

> what foods cause spikes, what foods cause cravings... Use your

body as

> a science experiment.

>

> You'll read about a lot of different ways people use to control

their

> diabetes... Many are diametrically opposed. After awhile you'll

learn

> that there is no one size fits all around here. Take some time to

> experiment and you'll soon discover the plan that works for you.

>

> Best of luck! "

>

> Reprinted with permission from , a regular on the newsgroup

> alt.support.diabetes.

>

> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

> --

> I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.

> Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be

> an expensive teacher.

>

> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter

>

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> Lee here:

> Thanks Alan...this will help answer some of my previous questions.

> Must be patient and take my time.

> I will print this out and read it again to remind myself to keep

> testing and experimenting.

>

Hi Lee

Good luck. Follow that advice by , it's better for you than

anything else I could say.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia

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