Re: Dr's! Do we have a hunting season for them??

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Donna,

If they ever open that season, I'll grab my syringes and go at them!

I hope that you are able to get her back into her old Dr. Sometimes convenience is wonderful.. seems like in this case it is not.

I do not understand why some Drs. take chest pains so lightly, regardless of test results. There could be other things causing this pain, yet he dismisses it as "nothing".

Hope Mom is feeling somewhat better now.

Hugs,

Jo

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Jo

Hes taking it " lightly " cuz she has been in and out alot recently in

the last 6 months with seemingly the same issues...without finding

out what the issue is and why its bothering her more now than say 6

months ago or a yr ago. Im honestly looking into the whole chronic

pain issue and also into something I read about thorasic outlet

syndrome and how alot her symptoms seem to be tied around that,

however shes had them so long that I dont know if they will be able

to do much at this point to correct it. Thats my only concern.

Will keep all posted...Thank you!

Hugs

Donna

> I do not understand why some Drs. take chest pains so lightly,

regardless of

> test results. There could be other things causing this pain, yet

he

> dismisses it as " nothing " .

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Donna - What a pompous incompetent cad. Write a letter to the hospital administrator and cc it to everyone involved (head of E.R., etc.). Yank her records quietly and get her to someone who is competent compassionate. God, that's scary. BarbaraDonna wrote:

Hi allI have had a rather infuriating experience with a "young" dr this morning who has been treating my mother for about 6 months. She decided to go to this dr because he was convenient to where she got her blood work done and he was taking over for a dr that she used to go to. Anyway, hes always rubbed me the wrong way in regards to his treatment of her..to give s little history on her she is an old 65..she has had a lonnnnngggg cardiac history, emphasemia, pulmonary disease, several ischemic strokes and in my opinion has been on way too many meds for treatment. He has always appeared for lack of a better word perplexed when he has treated her. For the last 2 months or so he has had her on various diuretics for increased fluid, altering her potassium to keep up with the diuretics, adjusting her coumadin etc ect ect.This

morning she called 911 because she woke up with chest pain radiating down her arm that she couldnt control with nitroglycerin. She has been instructed to do just this when she has these bouts...by who else but HIM...so, she goes to the ER..they do the usual cardiac workup, chest xray, ekg and bloodwork..everything as usual for her checks out normal. These have ALWAYS checked out normal even when she was about to have a triple bypass almost 20 yrs ago! He waltzes in while her pain is still at about a 5 and asks "whats the matter" like he was being disturbed instead of being her caring dr. She goes on to tell him whats going on and he asks her if she has ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?!?!?!? I stood there for a minute with my mouth wide open and said "ummm...excuse me?? Did I hear you right?" he says well...everything is normal..and she has been in and out of here almost every month for the last 6 months..dont you find that

to be odd...I told him I have been dealing with her for 25 yrs with this..yup since I was a child...we have been in and out of hospitals here to Boston..she had open heart surgery based on normal tests, she has had reccomendations to possibly have it done again but they feel she wouldnt survive it again...how dare he come in and say she is "acting". He wanted to reccomend a pain clinic for her and I asked based on what diagnosis? He was like I dont know yet...you cant go to a clinic and not have a clue what they are treating!?!? I told him thank you for blowing ANY chance she will ever call again if shes having chest pain..shes the type that will take his words to her grave and never ever return to be treated..and what IF..what IF its a serious cardiac issue...what if she doesnt follow protocol and something happens?!? I was so mad!!! I spoke to the nurse who agreed it was inappropriate to tell a patient that in the ER of all

places while shes being treated..then to say that he isnt going to give her the usual treatment for her pain which has always been MS iv...he will only give her nitroglycerin..so she will have a nasty headache, bottom out her BP and the pain wont be resolved..she will get all worked up, despise him and we wont get anywhere. I'm hoping that her cardiologist has the good sense to overwrite his orders. I told her to talk to him when he came in, talk sensibly and I would work on getting her records pulled from her drs office and plead with her prior dr to take her back. He's my dr and a good guy so I'm hoping that he will.On a positive note though, he did make me think and research a bit today and think back to how long she has had this and I started looking up chronic pain and came across thorasic outlet pain syndrome and how it affects many patients with chest pain. Interestingly she seems to fit the bill in many ways.

This is something I will talk to her cardiologist about.Oh ya, and to top off this wonderful week...I've been out of work since monday with what I thought was bronchitis but turns out to be lower lobe pneumonia...happy days, just what I wanted to do today was battle with a dr on no sleep, a new antibiotic and not having taken my meds yet when I got there for mood, pain or blood pressure meds..so a nasty headache ensues. BLAH to all BLAH BLAH...but thank you for listening to me rant....any suggestions on how to handle this jerk besides writing to the administration about him? Which Im seriously considering!Hope everyone is having a decent day!Hugs to allDonna

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> Donna - What a pompous incompetent cad. Write a letter to the

hospital administrator and cc it to everyone involved (head of E.R.,

etc.). Yank her records quietly and get her to someone who is

competent compassionate. God, that's scary. Barbara

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Barbara

I intend to do that AND send a letter to him as well. I dont care

for his attitude and I feel he needs to be called on his actions. I

talked to her previous dr today and he was appalled but sadly not

surprised. He said he tried to warn my mother about him but she

chose to go there against his advice. I know my mother and I know

this was her choice but I still havent figured out WHY...I hate

having to make every decision in her life but I feel that this is

necessary..her health a welfare depend on this and she will never

return to him again..she is so angry with him..she needs a regular

dr though so I need to work fast.

I am working in my head how to word my letter to make it sound

rational and not like some child protecting my mommy..I dont want to

sound offensive to the admin but I want my point taken. I will post

my letter here when Im done for critique. Thank you guys

Hugs

Donna

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Donna,

By all means talk to adm. about him and rake his ass across the coals. I think it's a good idea to talk with your mom's cardiologist about the your investigation of possible new diagnosis. It makes sense there is something else going on besides cardiac problems. And by all means get a new Dr. for her. I wouldn't even take a asprin from that jerk.

Laurie

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Donna,

By all means talk to adm. about him and rake his ass across the coals. I think it's a good idea to talk with your mom's cardiologist about the your investigation of possible new diagnosis. It makes sense there is something else going on besides cardiac problems. And by all means get a new Dr. for her. I wouldn't even take a asprin from that jerk.

Laurie

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The administration doesn't have to let your name be known. They can what's the word like scold him? about the behavior because it's probably not the first time with other pt's. You have the right and how is he ever going to learn appropriate bedside behavior if nobody says anything? Just a thought.

Luv Laurie

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Laurie

I have drafted up a letter to admin about him but a part of me is

holding on it because of my own employment. See I work at the

nursing home where he happens to have alot of residents and where I

would be in frequent contact with him...this puts me in a position

where it could get rather sticky. I havent put the whole situation

out of my mind yet but on top of all that SHE has decided to keep

him monitoring her regular medical issues! She wont let me change

right now, says that she is going to keep her cardiac seperated with

her trusted dr and leave her medical up to him, while this doesnt

please me, I respect her decision.

He did at least admit today that he felt that her issues were in at

least part of a cardiac issue since the muscle that surrounds her

heart is this and when her heart is overworked it causes pain and

morphine is really all that settles it down. It doesnt change my

opinion of him but at least he did acknowledge this.

Im going to be picking her up in a little while and hopefully get

her settled at home,I just hope that she is comfortable enough.

I told her to keep the names of the Dr's I had in mind so that

should be decide for herself that she is insane I can make

arrangements for her to see someone new.

*SIGH GRUMBLE* Mothers!

Hugs

Donna

> By all means talk to adm. about him and rake his ass across the

coals. I

> think it's a good idea to talk with your mom's cardiologist about

the your

> investigation of possible new diagnosis. It makes sense there is

something else going

> on besides cardiac problems. And by all means get a new Dr. for

her. I

> wouldn't even take a asprin from that jerk.

> Laurie

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I understand your thoughts Jo. I live in a very small town however,

very few drs and everyone knows everyone. With my mothers decision

to say with her dr and HER desire for me to leave things as is, I

will honor it. Do I want to? No, i dont. Will admin leave my name

out if I report him? Unlikely that it will even matter because he

will know its my report..I dont want my mothers health to be

jeopordized by my doing this either since she has decided to stay

with him.

My personal guts say to do something but my need to protect my

mother and respect her request keeps me at bay yanno? I'm damned if

I do and damned if I dont at the moment. Frustrated? Yup!

Hugs

Donna

> The administration doesn't have to let your name be known. They

can what's

> the word like scold him? about the behavior because it's probably

not the first

> time with other pt's. You have the right and how is he ever going

to learn

> appropriate bedside behavior if nobody says anything? Just a

thought.

> Luv Laurie