Re: *Re: Andy questions about your chelation recovery

December 7, 2004

Andy,

I have heard mention before about the " thyroid-mercury connection'...forget

where.

For Hg toxic adults is it likely that a lifetime of undiagnosed low thyroid

has a lot to do with the body holding on to and not properly detoxing

mercury in the first place?

~Inga

============

on 12/7/04 1:09 AM, andrewhallcutler at AndyCutler@... wrote:

>

> Please, if you really want to be sure I answer something, send me the

> post number privately (please do not all do this! ;-) I ran across this

> by chance.

>

> What you have below is about half accurate information and half very

> inaccurate and misleading information. I will clarify to some extent

> and discuss it.

>

> There is lots of evidence I never really made enough thyroid hormone or

> testosterone, but for a variety of reasons this was not diagnosed in

> childhood, adolescence, or young adulthood.

>

> I started taking thyroid hormone in 1991. It was enormously helpful in

> eliminating many of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism.

>

> I actually was the textbook picture of hypothyroidism at that time, but

> since I had blood tests within normal limits nobody would do anything

> until I threatened to go buy thyroid medicine in Mexico and asked to

> have the 'good FDA regulated US stuff' prescribed.

>

> Aside from being enormously helpful in terms of health and well being,

> this was the start of my education regarding the sad state of modern

> medicine.

>

> I started testosterone replacement in early 1998.

>

> I did not chelate until later in 1998.

>

> All of the positive effects of the thyroid and testosterone were

> realized before I chelated, and the beneficial effects of chelation

> were clearly linked to the chelation and not to anything that is

> relevant to what the hormeons do.

>

> I did not need any hydrocortizone (an adrenal hormone) and did not

> benefit from any sort of hydrocortizone replacement - I gained about an

> ounce of weight per milligram of HC on a brief trial of it suggested by

> an alternative doctor. I had been taking DHEA and pregnenolone - other

> adrenal hormones that are also over the counter nutritional supplements

> - for osme years before chelating.

>

> I decided to take the hormone replacements before I chelated and before

> I realized I had mercury poisoning.

>

> It was easy to tell the difference between chelation improvement and

> hormoen improvement because I did them at different times and the

> improvements happened at different times.

>

> Andy . . . .. . . . .

>

>> I would be interested in the answer too.

>>

>> Dagmar.

>>

>> Andy I have some questions regarding your recovery from mercury

>> poisoning? Are you still taking homones for your thyroids and

>> adrenals? Also around how many rounds into chelation did you decide

>> to take the hormone replacements? How can you tell the difference

>> between the improvements you made from taking hormones and actual

>> chelation? What improvements have you made by chelation alone

>> without hormones and what improvements did you get from hormone

>> replacement and chelation?

>>

>

> =======================================================

>

December 7, 2004

My understanding is that the mercury causes the thyroid to stop working

properly.

S

>

> Please, if you really want to be sure I answer something, send me the

> post number privately (please do not all do this! ;-) I ran across this

> by chance.

>

> What you have below is about half accurate information and half very

> inaccurate and misleading information. I will clarify to some extent

> and discuss it.

>

> There is lots of evidence I never really made enough thyroid hormone or

> testosterone, but for a variety of reasons this was not diagnosed in

> childhood, adolescence, or young adulthood.

>

> I started taking thyroid hormone in 1991. It was enormously helpful in

> eliminating many of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism.

>

> I actually was the textbook picture of hypothyroidism at that time, but

> since I had blood tests within normal limits nobody would do anything

> until I threatened to go buy thyroid medicine in Mexico and asked to

> have the 'good FDA regulated US stuff' prescribed.

>

> Aside from being enormously helpful in terms of health and well being,

> this was the start of my education regarding the sad state of modern

> medicine.

>

> I started testosterone replacement in early 1998.

>

> I did not chelate until later in 1998.

>

> All of the positive effects of the thyroid and testosterone were

> realized before I chelated, and the beneficial effects of chelation

> were clearly linked to the chelation and not to anything that is

> relevant to what the hormeons do.

>

> I did not need any hydrocortizone (an adrenal hormone) and did not

> benefit from any sort of hydrocortizone replacement - I gained about an

> ounce of weight per milligram of HC on a brief trial of it suggested by

> an alternative doctor. I had been taking DHEA and pregnenolone - other

> adrenal hormones that are also over the counter nutritional supplements

> - for osme years before chelating.

>

> I decided to take the hormone replacements before I chelated and before

> I realized I had mercury poisoning.

>

> It was easy to tell the difference between chelation improvement and

> hormoen improvement because I did them at different times and the

> improvements happened at different times.

>

> Andy . . . .. . . . .

>

>> I would be interested in the answer too.

>>

>> Dagmar.

>>

>> Andy I have some questions regarding your recovery from mercury

>> poisoning? Are you still taking homones for your thyroids and

>> adrenals? Also around how many rounds into chelation did you decide

>> to take the hormone replacements? How can you tell the difference

>> between the improvements you made from taking hormones and actual

>> chelation? What improvements have you made by chelation alone

>> without hormones and what improvements did you get from hormone

>> replacement and chelation?

>>

>

> =======================================================

>

December 7, 2004

YES....yes...I understand that,but I have also heard that low thyroid makes

the mercury so itt cannot detox.

Sort of a viscious circle, I guess.

I am just trying to puece my health and ill health together...sort of a

" which came first - the chicken or the egg " attempt. Mom had untreated

thyroid problems ...Ithink he heart failure was from it....who knows about

the Hg she may have had....

~Inga

>

> My understanding is that the mercury causes the thyroid to stop working

> properly.

> S

>

> <tt>

> Andy,

> I have heard mention before about the " thyroid-mercury

> connection'...forget

> where.

>

> For Hg toxic adults is it likely that a lifetime of undiagnosed low

> thyroid

> has a lot to do with the body holding on to and not properly detoxing

> mercury in the first place?

>

> ~Inga

>

December 7, 2004

Andy.

My sex drive recntly went out the window.

Can't seem to get my thyroid up where I need it, at least according to body

temperatures..afraid to take too much (up to 3 1/2 grains)

Should I consider testosterone (for women)?

Or would pregnenolone be a better idea, becasue I also think my cortisol is

too low.

I have not taken any cortisol because I am afraid of more wieght gain

(already 80+ over)

~Inga

>

>>> I started testosterone replacement in early 1998.

>>>

>>> I did not chelate until later in 1998.

>>>

>>> All of the positive effects of the thyroid and testosterone

> were

>>> realized before I chelated, and the beneficial effects of

> chelation

>>> were clearly linked to the chelation and not to anything that

> is

>>> relevant to what the hormeons do.

>

> Andy....once you chelated did you need to continue the

> testosterone,Dhea and thyroid supplements..

>

>>

>

> =======================================================

>

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