RE: OCD?

May 8, 2006

In reading the posts mentioning OCD I find I have become confused. My bph has

been dx with OCD, but her bedroom is THE worst pit of a slobby mess I have ever

seen! She does not throw away trash, leaves dishes and soda cans everywhere.

Does not put away clothes, sleeps with piles of stuff on the bed, even her

dresser top is covered with jewelry, packaging, CD,s makeup and bags. She spends

a large amount of time in bed " thinking " , and I think that's why her pdoc says

she's OCD, but I just don't get it.

We just moved into a house, and much of her stuff is still unpacked and she

may never get to it. She did this last time we moved, too. Her room is a

catastrophe.

She also doesn't care about her school grades, or more particularly her math

grades.

Sorry, I digress. That's a different subject. Oops!

Any insight? I thought OCD was an out of control neat freak thing.

Toni

Deborah minamimuki2004@...> wrote:

Wow, Joan.

My daughter has a lot of that OCD stuff. It's

wonderful to hear things are improving. You sound

pretty calm. All though distance is difficult, it

sounds like you're doing what's best for all of you.

And your son's fiance is sticking with him? Terrific

(I enjoyed the Halloween candy story!)

Here's hoping things continue well.

Hugs,

Deborah

--- blue jay bluejay_01@...> wrote:

> Hi Cathy,

>

> Welcome to our " safe haven " . I know you'll find

> help, encouragement and

> support here. I could

> totally relate to your post. I'm the mother of a

> (just turned) 25 year old

> son with BP. He *also* has OCD, anxiety, & is

> bipolar. Depending on the

> circumstance, any one of those traits can take the

> forefront!

>

> Mine too exhibited for sure the OCD as a youngster,

> although he never shared

> the full extent of it with us until just last year.

> Do you remember the

> show " The Odd Couple " ? Well .... the joke in our

> family was that we were

> raising a Felix & an . Our youngest (daughter)

> wallowed in messiness,

> and just didn't care. Our son, the oldest, was a

> complete Felix when the

> mood struck him!! In hindsight we now realize his

> neat freak periods were

> his efforts to calm himself and put some order into

> his life. I actually

> took a picture after one Halloween when the kids

> were about 11 and 9. Our

> daughter came home from trick or treating and just

> dumped out all her candy

> in one big pile in the middle of her room, where it

> stayed until I lost my

> cool about it. Her brother, however,

> arranged his on a table top .... just like you'd

> see in a store display.

> All the suckers fanned out, the chocolate bars

> grouped by brand, the candy

> all together. It was just tooooo funny at the time,

> because unknown to his

> Dad, he also knew EXACTLY how much of each he should

> have. His Dad

> " borrowed " a chocolate bar the next morning to take

> to work, and our son

> noticed EXACTLY what chocolate bar was missing. We

> were stunned!! Our

> daughter could have been robbed blind and never

> noticed.

>

> Our son shared last year that he use to count the

> steps it took to walk home

> from school ... counting up to 12, then repeating

> that over and over until

> he was home. Also he did multiplication tables

> repetitively in his head.

> He said at first he thought all kids did that, then

> when he realized they

> didn't he was too ashamed and embarrassed to let

> anyone know. He's a true

> blue list maker, and also doesn't adapt to change

> well.

>

> He also is a black and white thinker, and in the

> past has tended to hold

> grudges. Everything that is wrong in his life is my

> fault, and if I dare to

> speak my mind and he doesn't agree he'll also hold

> it against me.

>

> What threw my son over the edge was a combination of

> insomnia, worry over

> money & obsession with getting all A's in college.

> Within a short period of

> time (2 months??) he became unable to function at

> all. To treat the

> anxiety they prescribed various SSRI's, which I now

> believe were part of the

> reason he became psychotic. At that point he began

> to exhibit bizarre

> behavior & thought patterns, such as cutting

> himself, shaving his eyebrow

> off, cutting patches of hair off, and a very

> scary vigilante type of action. At that point he

> had not shared anything

> about the extent of his

> early OCD, and we were going CRAZY trying to figure

> out what was wrong, and

> how to help.

> Looking back it's amazing any of us survived.

>

> About that time I went to a counselor to help *me*

> prepare myself for what I

> was certain would happen - he would commit suicide.

> It was this lady that

> told me some of his behaviors sounded like bp. I

> bought the 'Stop Walking

> On Eggshells' book, and also " Codependent No More'.

> Both books were a

> tremendous help & and I highly recommend them.

>

> Eventually his behavior spiraled out of control to

> the extent we had to have

> him involuntarily committed to the psych ward of our

> local hospital.

> Unfortunately nothing changed. He then began to

> really act out at home, and

> the final straw for his finance was when he phoned

> her at work and told her

> he had cut himself, trashed their basement suite,

> and was going to kill

> himself. She came rushing home to find the police

> there (I had called them

> after he phoned me!), and they were pointing a taser

> gun at him and telling

> him to either drop the knife or they'd use it on

> him. He complied.

>

> She set an ultimatum -- either get psych help (which

> he had previously not

> embraced) or she'd leave. He took a 4 month

> out-patient program, and during

> that time he settled down enough to

> slowly begin to take forward steps.

>

> However, our relationship has never returned to what

> it was before. He

> doesn't call here often anymore, whereas before he

> called sometimes 20 times

> a day. I also don't call him too often, and I had

> to teach myself to put a

> distance between my heart and his daily life. It

> was a matter of

> self-preservation.

>

> Okay -- now here the good news. He's been " stable "

> since last November. I

> often feel we're all holding our breath, too afraid

> to think he's over the

> worst (maybe even he feels that way). I can now

> chat with him without

> feeling any of that " blame " and negativity that was

> always present when he

> was at his sickest. I admire the strength he's

> shown to just keep putting

> one foot in front of the other. I admire the fact

> that he swallowed his

> pride and did attend the psych program.

> Considering he at one point was refusing ANY

> medication, I applaud him now

> for realizing his brain functions a little

> differently than is healthy for

> him, and in order to resume a life he needs some

> medical help. I hope and

> pray we will all continue to repair what was damaged

> during the past

> two years. I love him dearly.

>

> There is hope Cathy. Keep reading the posts here,

> and if you're like me,

> you'll be able to pull little bits of advice and

> thoughts from various

> people's experience, and knit them together to fit

> your particular

> situation. I understand your hurting heart.

> Everyone here understands

> that.

>

> Think positive thoughts, and know that you've done

> all you can to help.

> These sons our ours are adults now, and we must let

> them find their own way,

> as painful as that is. Keep the faith.

>

> Joan

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

>

> Reply-To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> Subject: suspicious my adult son

> has BP

> Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 23:00:53 -0000

>

> Hi, I am a mother of a 24 year old son and a 14 year

> old daughter, I

> am suspicious that my son has BP disorder. I was

> wondering if

> anyone out there would read my story and tell me if

> they could

> relate at all and maybe offer some advice or just

> encouragement. My

> son has had some behavioral issues since he was

> young, such as some

> obsessive compulsive issues with cleaning, he has

> always done this

> it seems to relieve stress, he is a real

> perfectionist with himself,

> such as his appearance has to be perfect, he gets a

> haircut every 2

> weeks, he looks in the mirror obsessively, when he

> was in high

> school I remember him sitting on the coach all slide

> down

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May 8, 2006

It's not necessarily a neat freak kind of thing, although it can be. My nephew

has it but it's more about doing things in the exact same way (like going out

the same door he came in; eating an exact number of potato chips or m&m's,

washing his hands alot, staying in the bathroom for hours at a time (his

potty-training at his daycare was a nightmare!). His room is a wreck too

(although not real bad) so it's not just necessarily about cleanliness. It's

obsessing about anything or being compulsive about anything. Maybe her OCD does

kick in by having to have things messy or not unpacking her boxes.

Kelley

Toni P hephzeba2001@...> wrote:

In reading the posts mentioning OCD I find I have become confused. My bph has

been dx with OCD, but her bedroom is THE worst pit of a slobby mess I have ever

seen! She does not throw away trash, leaves dishes and soda cans everywhere.

Does not put away clothes, sleeps with piles of stuff on the bed, even her

dresser top is covered with jewelry, packaging, CD,s makeup and bags. She spends

a large amount of time in bed " thinking " , and I think that's why her pdoc says

she's OCD, but I just don't get it.

We just moved into a house, and much of her stuff is still unpacked and she

may never get to it. She did this last time we moved, too. Her room is a

catastrophe.

She also doesn't care about her school grades, or more particularly her math

grades.

Sorry, I digress. That's a different subject. Oops!

Any insight? I thought OCD was an out of control neat freak thing.

Toni

Deborah minamimuki2004@...> wrote:

Wow, Joan.

My daughter has a lot of that OCD stuff. It's

wonderful to hear things are improving. You sound

pretty calm. All though distance is difficult, it

sounds like you're doing what's best for all of you.

And your son's fiance is sticking with him? Terrific

(I enjoyed the Halloween candy story!)

Here's hoping things continue well.

Hugs,

Deborah

--- blue jay bluejay_01@...> wrote:

> Hi Cathy,

>

> Welcome to our " safe haven " . I know you'll find

> help, encouragement and

> support here. I could

> totally relate to your post. I'm the mother of a

> (just turned) 25 year old

> son with BP. He *also* has OCD, anxiety, & is

> bipolar. Depending on the

> circumstance, any one of those traits can take the

> forefront!

>

> Mine too exhibited for sure the OCD as a youngster,

> although he never shared

> the full extent of it with us until just last year.

> Do you remember the

> show " The Odd Couple " ? Well .... the joke in our

> family was that we were

> raising a Felix & an . Our youngest (daughter)

> wallowed in messiness,

> and just didn't care. Our son, the oldest, was a

> complete Felix when the

> mood struck him!! In hindsight we now realize his

> neat freak periods were

> his efforts to calm himself and put some order into

> his life. I actually

> took a picture after one Halloween when the kids

> were about 11 and 9. Our

> daughter came home from trick or treating and just

> dumped out all her candy

> in one big pile in the middle of her room, where it

> stayed until I lost my

> cool about it. Her brother, however,

> arranged his on a table top .... just like you'd

> see in a store display.

> All the suckers fanned out, the chocolate bars

> grouped by brand, the candy

> all together. It was just tooooo funny at the time,

> because unknown to his

> Dad, he also knew EXACTLY how much of each he should

> have. His Dad

> " borrowed " a chocolate bar the next morning to take

> to work, and our son

> noticed EXACTLY what chocolate bar was missing. We

> were stunned!! Our

> daughter could have been robbed blind and never

> noticed.

>

> Our son shared last year that he use to count the

> steps it took to walk home

> from school ... counting up to 12, then repeating

> that over and over until

> he was home. Also he did multiplication tables

> repetitively in his head.

> He said at first he thought all kids did that, then

> when he realized they

> didn't he was too ashamed and embarrassed to let

> anyone know. He's a true

> blue list maker, and also doesn't adapt to change

> well.

>

> He also is a black and white thinker, and in the

> past has tended to hold

> grudges. Everything that is wrong in his life is my

> fault, and if I dare to

> speak my mind and he doesn't agree he'll also hold

> it against me.

>

> What threw my son over the edge was a combination of

> insomnia, worry over

> money & obsession with getting all A's in college.

> Within a short period of

> time (2 months??) he became unable to function at

> all. To treat the

> anxiety they prescribed various SSRI's, which I now

> believe were part of the

> reason he became psychotic. At that point he began

> to exhibit bizarre

> behavior & thought patterns, such as cutting

> himself, shaving his eyebrow

> off, cutting patches of hair off, and a very

> scary vigilante type of action. At that point he

> had not shared anything

> about the extent of his

> early OCD, and we were going CRAZY trying to figure

> out what was wrong, and

> how to help.

> Looking back it's amazing any of us survived.

>

> About that time I went to a counselor to help *me*

> prepare myself for what I

> was certain would happen - he would commit suicide.

> It was this lady that

> told me some of his behaviors sounded like bp. I

> bought the 'Stop Walking

> On Eggshells' book, and also " Codependent No More'.

> Both books were a

> tremendous help & and I highly recommend them.

>

> Eventually his behavior spiraled out of control to

> the extent we had to have

> him involuntarily committed to the psych ward of our

> local hospital.

> Unfortunately nothing changed. He then began to

> really act out at home, and

> the final straw for his finance was when he phoned

> her at work and told her

> he had cut himself, trashed their basement suite,

> and was going to kill

> himself. She came rushing home to find the police

> there (I had called them

> after he phoned me!), and they were pointing a taser

> gun at him and telling

> him to either drop the knife or they'd use it on

> him. He complied.

>

> She set an ultimatum -- either get psych help (which

> he had previously not

> embraced) or she'd leave. He took a 4 month

> out-patient program, and during

> that time he settled down enough to

> slowly begin to take forward steps.

>

> However, our relationship has never returned to what

> it was before. He

> doesn't call here often anymore, whereas before he

> called sometimes 20 times

> a day. I also don't call him too often, and I had

> to teach myself to put a

> distance between my heart and his daily life. It

> was a matter of

> self-preservation.

>

> Okay -- now here the good news. He's been " stable "

> since last November. I

> often feel we're all holding our breath, too afraid

> to think he's over the

> worst (maybe even he feels that way). I can now

> chat with him without

> feeling any of that " blame " and negativity that was

> always present when he

> was at his sickest. I admire the strength he's

> shown to just keep putting

> one foot in front of the other. I admire the fact

> that he swallowed his

> pride and did attend the psych program.

> Considering he at one point was refusing ANY

> medication, I applaud him now

> for realizing his brain functions a little

> differently than is healthy for

> him, and in order to resume a life he needs some

> medical help. I hope and

> pray we will all continue to repair what was damaged

> during the past

> two years. I love him dearly.

>

> There is hope Cathy. Keep reading the posts here,

> and if you're like me,

> you'll be able to pull little bits of advice and

> thoughts from various

> people's experience, and knit them together to fit

> your particular

> situation. I understand your hurting heart.

> Everyone here understands

> that.

>

> Think positive thoughts, and know that you've done

> all you can to help.

> These sons our ours are adults now, and we must let

> them find their own way,

> as painful as that is. Keep the faith.

>

> Joan

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

>

> Reply-To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> Subject: suspicious my adult son

> has BP

> Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 23:00:53 -0000

>

> Hi, I am a mother of a 24 year old son and a 14 year

> old daughter, I

> am suspicious that my son has BP disorder. I was

> wondering if

> anyone out there would read my story and tell me if

> they could

> relate at all and maybe offer some advice or just

> encouragement. My

> son has had some behavioral issues since he was

> young, such as some

> obsessive compulsive issues with cleaning, he has

> always done this

> it seems to relieve stress, he is a real

> perfectionist with himself,

> such as his appearance has to be perfect, he gets a

> haircut every 2

> weeks, he looks in the mirror obsessively, when he

> was in high

> school I remember him sitting on the coach all slide

> down

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__________________________________________________

May 8, 2006

No OCD isn't just a neat freak thing. I teach at a psychiatric treatment

hospital and have lots of kids with OCD. It can be a thought, an object, an

activity. Believe me not all of them are neat.

By the way, my daughter's room looks just like yours!!

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May 8, 2006

She also has ADD and I think the two disorders are fighting each other. She's

too disorganized and distracted to attempt to start her room, and she's so

bothered by it that when I step in to try to help, she gets 'tired' and wants to

go to bed. She sleeps (or thinks) a lot! I think it is her defense mechanism

against the pressure inside her.

The need to control the room keeps her from allowing me to do it without her,

and she doesn't trust me enough to allow me to do it when she's in school. Her

dad and I just may bite the bullet and get in there to organize it. She'll be

angry, but then she'll be grateful after she gets over the initial anger. Yes,

it's bad enough to intervene and guarantee her anger.

Thanks!

Toni

Kerk0522 kerk0522@...> wrote:

It's not necessarily a neat freak kind of thing, although it can be. My

nephew has it but it's more about doing things in the exact same way (like going

out the same door he came in; eating an exact number of potato chips or m&m's,

washing his hands alot, staying in the bathroom for hours at a time (his

potty-training at his daycare was a nightmare!). His room is a wreck too

(although not real bad) so it's not just necessarily about cleanliness. It's

obsessing about anything or being compulsive about anything. Maybe her OCD does

kick in by having to have things messy or not unpacking her boxes.

Kelley

Toni P hephzeba2001@...> wrote:

In reading the posts mentioning OCD I find I have become confused. My bph has

been dx with OCD, but her bedroom is THE worst pit of a slobby mess I have ever

seen! She does not throw away trash, leaves dishes and soda cans everywhere.

Does not put away clothes, sleeps with piles of stuff on the bed, even her

dresser top is covered with jewelry, packaging, CD,s makeup and bags. She spends

a large amount of time in bed " thinking " , and I think that's why her pdoc says

she's OCD, but I just don't get it.

We just moved into a house, and much of her stuff is still unpacked and she

may never get to it. She did this last time we moved, too. Her room is a

catastrophe.

She also doesn't care about her school grades, or more particularly her math

grades.

Sorry, I digress. That's a different subject. Oops!

Any insight? I thought OCD was an out of control neat freak thing.

Toni

Deborah minamimuki2004@...> wrote:

Wow, Joan.

My daughter has a lot of that OCD stuff. It's

wonderful to hear things are improving. You sound

pretty calm. All though distance is difficult, it

sounds like you're doing what's best for all of you.

And your son's fiance is sticking with him? Terrific

(I enjoyed the Halloween candy story!)

Here's hoping things continue well.

Hugs,

Deborah

--- blue jay bluejay_01@...> wrote:

> Hi Cathy,

>

> Welcome to our " safe haven " . I know you'll find

> help, encouragement and

> support here. I could

> totally relate to your post. I'm the mother of a

> (just turned) 25 year old

> son with BP. He *also* has OCD, anxiety, & is

> bipolar. Depending on the

> circumstance, any one of those traits can take the

> forefront!

>

> Mine too exhibited for sure the OCD as a youngster,

> although he never shared

> the full extent of it with us until just last year.

> Do you remember the

> show " The Odd Couple " ? Well .... the joke in our

> family was that we were

> raising a Felix & an . Our youngest (daughter)

> wallowed in messiness,

> and just didn't care. Our son, the oldest, was a

> complete Felix when the

> mood struck him!! In hindsight we now realize his

> neat freak periods were

> his efforts to calm himself and put some order into

> his life. I actually

> took a picture after one Halloween when the kids

> were about 11 and 9. Our

> daughter came home from trick or treating and just

> dumped out all her candy

> in one big pile in the middle of her room, where it

> stayed until I lost my

> cool about it. Her brother, however,

> arranged his on a table top .... just like you'd

> see in a store display.

> All the suckers fanned out, the chocolate bars

> grouped by brand, the candy

> all together. It was just tooooo funny at the time,

> because unknown to his

> Dad, he also knew EXACTLY how much of each he should

> have. His Dad

> " borrowed " a chocolate bar the next morning to take

> to work, and our son

> noticed EXACTLY what chocolate bar was missing. We

> were stunned!! Our

> daughter could have been robbed blind and never

> noticed.

>

> Our son shared last year that he use to count the

> steps it took to walk home

> from school ... counting up to 12, then repeating

> that over and over until

> he was home. Also he did multiplication tables

> repetitively in his head.

> He said at first he thought all kids did that, then

> when he realized they

> didn't he was too ashamed and embarrassed to let

> anyone know. He's a true

> blue list maker, and also doesn't adapt to change

> well.

>

> He also is a black and white thinker, and in the

> past has tended to hold

> grudges. Everything that is wrong in his life is my

> fault, and if I dare to

> speak my mind and he doesn't agree he'll also hold

> it against me.

>

> What threw my son over the edge was a combination of

> insomnia, worry over

> money & obsession with getting all A's in college.

> Within a short period of

> time (2 months??) he became unable to function at

> all. To treat the

> anxiety they prescribed various SSRI's, which I now

> believe were part of the

> reason he became psychotic. At that point he began

> to exhibit bizarre

> behavior & thought patterns, such as cutting

> himself, shaving his eyebrow

> off, cutting patches of hair off, and a very

> scary vigilante type of action. At that point he

> had not shared anything

> about the extent of his

> early OCD, and we were going CRAZY trying to figure

> out what was wrong, and

> how to help.

> Looking back it's amazing any of us survived.

>

> About that time I went to a counselor to help *me*

> prepare myself for what I

> was certain would happen - he would commit suicide.

> It was this lady that

> told me some of his behaviors sounded like bp. I

> bought the 'Stop Walking

> On Eggshells' book, and also " Codependent No More'.

> Both books were a

> tremendous help & and I highly recommend them.

>

> Eventually his behavior spiraled out of control to

> the extent we had to have

> him involuntarily committed to the psych ward of our

> local hospital.

> Unfortunately nothing changed. He then began to

> really act out at home, and

> the final straw for his finance was when he phoned

> her at work and told her

> he had cut himself, trashed their basement suite,

> and was going to kill

> himself. She came rushing home to find the police

> there (I had called them

> after he phoned me!), and they were pointing a taser

> gun at him and telling

> him to either drop the knife or they'd use it on

> him. He complied.

>

> She set an ultimatum -- either get psych help (which

> he had previously not

> embraced) or she'd leave. He took a 4 month

> out-patient program, and during

> that time he settled down enough to

> slowly begin to take forward steps.

>

> However, our relationship has never returned to what

> it was before. He

> doesn't call here often anymore, whereas before he

> called sometimes 20 times

> a day. I also don't call him too often, and I had

> to teach myself to put a

> distance between my heart and his daily life. It

> was a matter of

> self-preservation.

>

> Okay -- now here the good news. He's been " stable "

> since last November. I

> often feel we're all holding our breath, too afraid

> to think he's over the

> worst (maybe even he feels that way). I can now

> chat with him without

> feeling any of that " blame " and negativity that was

> always present when he

> was at his sickest. I admire the strength he's

> shown to just keep putting

> one foot in front of the other. I admire the fact

> that he swallowed his

> pride and did attend the psych program.

> Considering he at one point was refusing ANY

> medication, I applaud him now

> for realizing his brain functions a little

> differently than is healthy for

> him, and in order to resume a life he needs some

> medical help. I hope and

> pray we will all continue to repair what was damaged

> during the past

> two years. I love him dearly.

>

> There is hope Cathy. Keep reading the posts here,

> and if you're like me,

> you'll be able to pull little bits of advice and

> thoughts from various

> people's experience, and knit them together to fit

> your particular

> situation. I understand your hurting heart.

> Everyone here understands

> that.

>

> Think positive thoughts, and know that you've done

> all you can to help.

> These sons our ours are adults now, and we must let

> them find their own way,

> as painful as that is. Keep the faith.

>

> Joan

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

>

> Reply-To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> Subject: suspicious my adult son

> has BP

> Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 23:00:53 -0000

>

> Hi, I am a mother of a 24 year old son and a 14 year

> old daughter, I

> am suspicious that my son has BP disorder. I was

> wondering if

> anyone out there would read my story and tell me if

> they could

> relate at all and maybe offer some advice or just

> encouragement. My

> son has had some behavioral issues since he was

> young, such as some

> obsessive compulsive issues with cleaning, he has

> always done this

> it seems to relieve stress, he is a real

> perfectionist with himself,

> such as his appearance has to be perfect, he gets a

> haircut every 2

> weeks, he looks in the mirror obsessively, when he

> was in high

> school I remember him sitting on the coach all slide

> down

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__________________________________________________

May 8, 2006

Toni,

I think it is a bad idea to clean the room for her.

a) it only reinforces her feeling bad about herself, being incapacitated and out

of control

she will not " own " her room, will not be able to find things or relate to

them. (Have you ever had anybody to organize your desk or your " anything " for

you?)

c) feelig grateful to you in the end will put her into another spin of

helplessnes and dependency.

Could you try " divide and conquere " approach?

E.g. - we don't give a damn what state your room is in but it is not allowed to

spill into : bathroom, living room.... etc, you get the idea.

We don't care if we cannot see the floor as long as you make your bed every

morning before certain hour. Then proceed to another small achievement.

My mother once used the following method with my teenage brother: all his

clothing was dumped helter skelter at the bottom of the closet. She just knotted

all the sleeves and pant legs very tightly together. He had a helluva time to

untie them when he needed to get dressed.

Milena

Toni P hephzeba2001@...> wrote: She also has ADD and I think the two

disorders are fighting each other. She's too disorganized and distracted to

attempt to start her room, and she's so bothered by it that when I step in to

try to help, she gets 'tired' and wants to go to bed. She sleeps (or thinks) a

lot! I think it is her defense mechanism against the pressure inside her.